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[Rhufus]

The one that pissed me off was when Voss turned his back on the play to meander back for a very tight angle shot on goal, all the while Josh Treacy was waving his arms calling for the ball at the top of the goal square.
Fair enough Josh wasn’t making a lead at the time but he had at least 7 metres break on his opponent.
Now this can be partially excused if Patrick Voss was even a reasonable kick, however he is delusional in thinking he is another Sam Sturt.
Of course Vossy kicked it straight out on the ****ing full. NO ****ing surprise there.
Jye got burned at least three times with good leads and perhaps the kicker doubted his own ability to get it to him,
Voss however ****ing turning his back on the goals when he is on a thirty degree angle is unforgivable.
The cross field kick, god knows who he was looking for.

Turning your back when taking a mark is a sign of a poorly coached side. So many of the 1 percenters we just dont do.

 

[purplearmy]

What annoys me more than shit coaching is that sadly he won’t be moved on until the end of the season regardless how we play. So wanna be wrong about this, but I doubt the board has the guts to do it

Agree. I’ve been banging on about JLO for years and was just absolutely gobsmacked he’d be given these extensions. They just can’t get over him.

 

[Rhufus]

Everyone is critical of Voss kicking 1.3 (and one out on the full) but his biggest deficiency is definitely not getting back quickly and passing it off.
He actually has the attributes to be a pretty good forward once he puts it all together (and improves his kicking for goal) but someone has to have a word to him about being a team player. It cost us the game yesterday.

"someone has to have a word to him"
Ha ha ha ha ha ha Bwahhhh!
Sorry Im laughing because its a good point but there is a 100% chance the coaches didnt even notice it. Nothing changes.

 

[Big Animal]

It also needs to be considered why our players continued to kick to Voss' lead after he continued to miss. If something's not working, you adjust. Voss is a depth player. He clearly has on and off days with his accuracy. He kicked 2 straight in the preseason game. We all played with players like that. They're on, great, they're not, you start ghosting them. Not doing his job, well don't keep kicking to him. It's not rocket science. Yet, Freo continue to repeat actions during a game that don't work. What is that about?

 

[thistimeforsure]

Don't think it was an excuse so much as a reason.

His “tagger” beat him in every single stat category

He should of been tagging Jordan


On iPad using

 

[sumavich]

Seems you tag Serong, it's game over.
Really need Young in there, as he is the elite user

 

[Midnite65]

Another good point, now Mundy is gone we need to priortise elite kickers to the forward line. Its why I was so happy when we picked up Young. Young, Walters, Clark, Ryan are good kicks. Reid is promising, Bolton is a good decision maker. We are not far away. We should try either Clark or Ryan further up the ground, probably wing. I know it goes against the grain but the grain is not working. Some of these out there ideas may not work either but at least try them. We are not winning it this year, yet again.

In looking at our back 6 or 7 in Cox, Ryan, Walker, Draper, Pearce, Chapman, Wagner and Clark, apart from Clark and maybe Wagner to some extent the others are amongst the worst kicks in our side which is why we have no kick in strategy from behinds and also struggle to move the ball from the backline and over handball, etc. Compare that to players like Houston, Amon, Daicos, the Lizard, Lloyd, Caleb Daniel, AsH, Whitfield, etc and maybe we need to focus on recruiting a couple of elite users of the ball from the back half instead of Kozzie and co. Young was good but we need him in the midfield.

 

[Footskill]

The number of times we get hemmed in the d50 even after taking a mark or point kickin is frustrating. A good kick or play would help this.

 

[Dockeroo]

The number of times we get hemmed in the d50 even after taking a mark or point kickin is frustrating. A good kick or play would help this.

We have the worst restarts from kick ins, in the entire comp. It’s been that way for quite a while too.

After the weekend I’m starting to think we are bottom 4 for defending restarts from opposition kick ins too. The ease with which they moved up the field after restarts a few times was something we could only dream of.

 

[TheMcManusNose]

In looking at our back 6 or 7 in Cox, Ryan, Walker, Draper, Pearce, Chapman, Wagner and Clark, apart from Clark and maybe Wagner to some extent the others are amongst the worst kicks in our side which is why we have no kick in strategy from behinds and also struggle to move the ball from the backline and over handball, etc. Compare that to players like Houston, Amon, Daicos, the Lizard, Lloyd, Caleb Daniel, AsH, Whitfield, etc and maybe we need to focus on recruiting a couple of elite users of the ball from the back half instead of Kozzie and co. Young was good but we need him in the midfield.

Nah this is coached.

Cox - very good kick for a KPD and indeed a good kick in general. Has been one of his stregths in early years

Walker - prone to the Danyle Pearce error however a pretty neat kick overall. Certainly not bad.

Draper - composed the word often used when discussing his draft highlights. Not a bad kick by any means.

Chapman - kicking literally a strength in his draft profile.

Ryan - Actually a good kick when he tries to hit a target short

Pearce - The only genuine crab by foot of the lot.

You have only one bad defender by foot in that group and several others who it is literally one of their main points. It is coaching not personell.

Agree we need another small-medium HBF to balance out the group but that's more of a Wagner needs to be depth issue.

 

[Dockeroo]

Nah this is coached.

Cox - very good kick for a KPD and indeed a good kick in general. Has been one of his stregths in early years

Walker - prone to the Danyle Pearce error however a pretty neat kick overall. Certainly not bad.

Draper - composed the word often used when discussing his draft highlights. Not a bad kick by any means.

Chapman - kicking literally a strength in his draft profile.

Ryan - Actually a good kick when he tries to hit a target short

Pearce - The only genuine crab by foot of the lot.

You have only one bad defender by foot in that group and several others who it is literally one of their main points. It is coaching not personell.

Agree we need another small-medium HBF to balance out the group but that's more of a Wagner needs to be depth issue.

This is all relative. Compared to the best sides in the comp we are not good by foot as a defensive group. I’d say average at very best, and probably below average.
Walker is only good at those attacking punts to a leading forward when running forward at full speed. He’s a liability when chipping around the back.
I think chapman and draper are all ok by foot but I wouldn’t say elite.
Cox and Ryan have gone backwards as footballers in general so far this season and that includes their kicking

 

[EastcoastDocker]

Nah this is coached.

Cox - very good kick for a KPD and indeed a good kick in general. Has been one of his stregths in early years

Walker - prone to the Danyle Pearce error however a pretty neat kick overall. Certainly not bad.

Draper - composed the word often used when discussing his draft highlights. Not a bad kick by any means.

Chapman - kicking literally a strength in his draft profile.

Ryan - Actually a good kick when he tries to hit a target short

Pearce - The only genuine crab by foot of the lot.

You have only one bad defender by foot in that group and several others who it is literally one of their main points. It is coaching not personell.

Agree we need another small-medium HBF to balance out the group but that's more of a Wagner needs to be depth issue.

Walker is inexplicably good at hitting a target inside50. Clark inexplicably bad at it. Fatty Ryan never gets that far up the field to do so...

Cox like everything about him is capable by foot but is lazy with his disposal. A lot of lazy kicks off 1 step.

It's the lack of creative kicking that's the problem. The backline is too robotic. Wagner is by far the best distributor by foot and he's not the best kick if that makes any sense...

 

[The Feeder Club]

Before the season started I had a couple of informal undertakings from eagles members that I could have their ticket for this derby as "no one wants to watch the dockers smashing us"
Now after the weekend they're suddenly up and about and I'm watching on the couch
We have to put these flogs in their place

 

[Alfonz]

In looking at our back 6 or 7 in Cox, Ryan, Walker, Draper, Pearce, Chapman, Wagner and Clark, apart from Clark and maybe Wagner to some extent the others are amongst the worst kicks in our side which is why we have no kick in strategy from behinds and also struggle to move the ball from the backline and over handball, etc. Compare that to players like Houston, Amon, Daicos, the Lizard, Lloyd, Caleb Daniel, AsH, Whitfield, etc and maybe we need to focus on recruiting a couple of elite users of the ball from the back half instead of Kozzie and co. Young was good but we need him in the midfield.

While we could always use more elite users, it wouldn't really help as it is all down to poor coaching. We do not set up any open players nor movement/leads to create players in space and bring the ball out. If there is an open player it is short in the pocket and there is nobody else open further down the chain.

There is usually zero movement, that is clear when you go to the games and can get a wider view than on TV. Everyone just stands around and sets up waiting for the long bomb.

Our player bringing in the ball will generally wait after a behind, whereas most teams are moving the ball out before the umpire has even waved the flag.

Ryan and Chapman are more than capable kicks if they were under instruction to do so. Draper can kick. I was watching him warm up after Walker went down, and he was lasering kicks. Game pressure is obviously a different story, but the fundamental skills are there. Cox is lazy, but his kicking is pretty good for a KPD, and it's not usually their job to bring the ball out from a behind anyway.

Clark has a great leg and he will still only bomb it down the line, cause there is nothing else for him to do as that is the only plan the coaches have devised.

Wagner would be one of our worst kicks actually, but because he runs and takes the game on, he can often create something and move the ball down the field even with his limitations. When you put speed and movement on, things can open up. Walker should be able to do the same thing.

One thing our backline has is speed ... Walker, Chapman, Clark, Wagner and Pearce/Draper (by KPD standards) is a very fast grouping. Every side has a couple of slow players like Ryan. Yet the coaches refuse to use what should be a weapon for us.

 

[ilikepotatoes]

Before the season started I had a couple of informal undertakings from eagles members that I could have their ticket for this derby as "no one wants to watch the dockers smashing us"
Now after the weekend they're suddenly up and about and I'm watching on the couch
We have to put these flogs in their place

Reid has played 2 stinkers in a row and is copping it in the media.

Set up perfectly to bully our mids and win the Glendinning-Allan medal.

 

[nurries]

Reid has played 2 stinkers in a row and is copping it in the media.

Set up perfectly to bully our mids and win the Glendinning-Allan medal.

Doesn’t have Yeo to help him out this time around

 

[Midnite65]

One thing our backline has is speed ... Walker, Chapman, Clark, Wagner and Pearce/Draper (by KPD standards) is a very fast grouping. Every side has a couple of slow players like Ryan. Yet the coaches refuse to use what should be a weapon for us.

We have two of the slowest in the league, Cox and Ryan. Oh to have a Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, Lizard or Caleb Daniel in the side that could hit a target at speed in the corridor.

 

[Madas]

Before the season started I had a couple of informal undertakings from eagles members that I could have their ticket for this derby as "no one wants to watch the dockers smashing us"
Now after the weekend they're suddenly up and about and I'm watching on the couch
We have to put these flogs in their place

I’m going to go but am pretty nervous .

It could be heaven or hell walking out of that stadium next Sunday night

 

[Madas]

Reid has played 2 stinkers in a row and is copping it in the media.

Set up perfectly to bully our mids and win the Glendinning-Allan medal.

Put a tag on him and he will go to water
Good job for Erasmus
Get under his skin

 

[Polly]

Nah this is coached.

Cox - very good kick for a KPD and indeed a good kick in general. Has been one of his stregths in early years

Walker - prone to the Danyle Pearce error however a pretty neat kick overall. Certainly not bad.

Draper - composed the word often used when discussing his draft highlights. Not a bad kick by any means.

Chapman - kicking literally a strength in his draft profile.

Ryan - Actually a good kick when he tries to hit a target short

Pearce - The only genuine crab by foot of the lot.

You have only one bad defender by foot in that group and several others who it is literally one of their main points. It is coaching not personell.

Agree we need another small-medium HBF to balance out the group but that's more of a Wagner needs to be depth issue.

Kicking gets much easier when you’re kicking to a player running at you or into space. When everyone is standing in one spot or running away from you efficiency drops. Most of our games we seem to roll back to win back the ball at half back then everyone has to run forward en mass and we’re trying to kick to guys running away from the kicker. It’s so easily intercepted by teams who maintain a bit of structure.

 

[pK75]

Just watched the last quarter again, we had put up a wall in our forward line outside the 50 and Clark had take a good mark to then centre it and we had the opportunity to burn a couple of minutes with short passes but Sharp gets it and just plays on and bombs it in only for it to come out the other side where we weren't set up to defend. He played it like we were behind and not in front at that stage. We weren't the team that was behind that needed the next goal. Obviously the only way to avoid this is to get 2-3 goals ahead in the first place or take the ball out of those who don't have the capability or cool head to assess pressure situations, i.e. someone running past Voss for the handball instead of him trying to do a Hayden Young pass to the centre.

Sooo…… you agree with JLo and there were a few “moments” we should have slowed the game down and thought more about where we placed the ball.

 

[Bicco]

Put a tag on him and he will go to water
Good job for Erasmus
Get under his skin

Not sure Erasmus has the footspeed to go with Reid.

 

[blue shark]

Sooo…… you agree with JLo and there were a few “moments” we should have slowed the game down and thought more about where we placed the ball.

Isn’t the systems in place in the preseason?
That’s why you practice, and work on your weaknesses.
You are only as good as your teacher. We do alot wrong, but have had 9 years
to fix this.
Other clubs can do it in 5. Focus on the administration and fix the real problem.

 

[Dockeroo]

A minor bit annoying thing that happened the last day - why did Jackson punch through that Sydney kick for a point at the end of QT? The siren was already gone. Does he not know the rules? Dumb footy game awareness. In the end it was a 3 point game - that point was actually quite valuable to Sydney.
I could see Pearce turn around to him after it happened and say “what the **** are you thinking Jacko?” And I didn’t blame him.

 

[Madas]

Not sure Erasmus has the footspeed to go with Reid.

True
Was it my imagination or was Wagner tagging Heeney in the second half ?
Mismatch on size but whatever it was worked mostly , Heeney was pretty quiet .