Roast Vent Here

[Piggy Smalls]

My expectation:

Saturday - 'yeah, umm we weren't tough enough. Again.'

Thursday - No changes (or something dumb like Dudley the only out so extra defender Wagner can come back in).

 

[Bicco]

'We didn't play to our identity'
'We didn't play the way we want to'
'Didn't look like us at all'

I watched the interview and thought to myself, 'mate, that game looked exactly like you'. If someone could please let me know what our 'identity ' is outside of an over handballing, weak tackling, disorganised mess, is love to hear it.

 

[nurries]

We always play scared. Scared to make mistakes, scared to put the head over the ball, scared to take risks.

I think it is on the coach and the captain. Not ruthless enough.

Its no coincidence that Shai and Bruce don't play that way as they haven't been dockered as yet.

 

[Dockeroo]

Random thought - when is the last time a WA journo asked JL a hard question in one of those pressers?

For example has anyone been brave enough to ask him why we consistently have one of the lowest forward pressure ratings in the comp and why that isn’t changing?

 

[nurries]

Random thought - when is the last time a WA journo asked JL a hard question in one of those pressers?

For example has anyone been brave enough to ask him why we consistently have one of the lowest forward pressure ratings in the comp and why that isn’t changing?

We had 4, thats right 4 tackles inside forward 50. Melbourne had 27

Fre : I50 : 49 - I50 Tackles - 4 = 8% tackles per inside 50
Mel : I50 : 56 - I50 Tackles - 27 = 48%

That is simply not good enough.

Switkowski who is there for pressure had 0

 

[swanny1234]

Random thought - when is the last time a WA journo asked JL a hard question in one of those pressers?

For example has anyone been brave enough to ask him why we consistently have one of the lowest forward pressure ratings in the comp and why that isn’t changing?

WA journos are the weakest in the league. People like Ryan Daniels and Eliza Reiily are mouthpieces and apologists for both WA clubs, rather than holding the coaches and the clubs accountable. The Vic media is annoying, but at least they ask tough questions about poor performance. It's why on the outside - Longmuir still seems under a lot less pressure than Bevo, Goodwin or Voss. It's also why Simmo lasted 18 months longer than he would've at a Victorian club.

 

[nurries]

WA journos are the weakest in the league. People like Ryan Daniels and Eliza Reiily are mouthpieces and apologists for both WA clubs, rather than holding the coaches and the clubs accountable. The Vic media is annoying, but at least they ask tough questions about poor performance. It's why on the outside - Longmuir still seems under a lot less pressure than Bevo, Goodwin or Voss. It's also why Simmo lasted 18 months longer than he would've at a Victorian club.

He is under less pressure because the Weags are 0 and 6.

 

[dont bowl there]

Random thought - when is the last time a WA journo asked JL a hard question in one of those pressers?

For example has anyone been brave enough to ask him why we consistently have one of the lowest forward pressure ratings in the comp and why that isn’t changing?

Because the majority of fans don't want these questions asked or answered. That's why most Freo fans LOVE Ryan Daniels, he goes super easy on the club and that's nice to hear. Easier to write a puff piece on Fyfe being a champion than the actual issues at hand.

 

[swanny1234]

Because the majority of fans don't want these questions asked or answered. That's why most Freo fans LOVE Ryan Daniels, he goes super easy on the club and that's nice to hear. Easier to write a puff piece on Fyfe being a champion than the actual issues at hand.

I know they aren't popular amongst Freo fans, but Kane Cornes and Kingy are the only ones in the media actually calling the club to account somewhat.

 

[swanny1234]

He is under less pressure because the Weags are 0 and 6.

Why should that matter? We are at an entirely different stage of our development to the Weags? considering our draw (second easiest after GC), us being 3-3 is worse than the Weags being 0-6.

 

[dont bowl there]

I know they aren't popular amongst Freo fans, but Kane Cornes and Kingy are the only ones in the media actually calling the club to account somewhat.

Fully agree, problem is nobody over here really cares about Fremantle and JLo so they won't push the issue as it doesn't generate enough clicks/views. The only way is for the WA media to start to add pressure but as you have said that won't happen as they are essentially just Fremantle media employees at this stage.

 

[s_wd6]

I know they aren't popular amongst Freo fans, but Kane Cornes and Kingy are the only ones in the media actually calling the club to account somewhat.

For all the wrong reasons. 90% of Cornes criticisms of the club are about the two rucks.

 

[swanny1234]

For all the wrong reasons. 90% of Cornes criticisms of the club are about the two rucks

I may be in the minority, but I agree with him on this. Once he's back fit, just give Jackson the keys, he's the man. Darcy got bullied on the weekend, was horrific to watch.

 

[mike91]

We had 4, thats right 4 tackles inside forward 50. Melbourne had 27

Fre : I50 : 49 - I50 Tackles - 4 = 8% tackles per inside 50
Mel : I50 : 56 - I50 Tackles - 27 = 48%

That is simply not good enough.

Switkowski who is there for pressure had 0

Here's another stat for you, we loss the centre clearances by 9.

Midfield put on minimal pressure, allowing the Melbourne mids to launch inside 50 with ease.

Wanna know the real reason we loss? The mids. Then the defenders. Then the small forwards. Maybe call out the real reason yeah? (obviously JL as well)

 

[nurries]

Why should that matter? We are at an entirely different stage of our development to the Weags? considering our draw (second easiest after GC), us being 3-3 is worse than the Weags being 0-6.

It matters because the "bog average" journo looks at W & L and not the big picture. Thus the lack of pressure on JLO

 

[nurries]

Here's another stat for you, we loss the centre clearances by 9.

Midfield put on minimal pressure, allowing the Melbourne mids to launch inside 50 with ease.

Wanna know the real reason we loss? The mids. Then the defenders. Then the small forwards. Maybe call out the real reason yeah? (obviously JL as well)

I know that but have a look at the post i quoted yeah?

 

[s_wd6]

I may be in the minority, but I agree with him on this. Once he's back fit, just give Jackson the keys, he's the man. Darcy got bullied on the weekend, was horrific to watch.

Yeah but Jackson was bullied late last year. Don’t think we have a big enough sample size to say if it works or not.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Here's another stat for you, we loss the centre clearances by 9.

Midfield put on minimal pressure, allowing the Melbourne mids to launch inside 50 with ease.

Wanna know the real reason we loss? The mids. Then the defenders. Then the small forwards. Maybe call out the real reason yeah? (obviously JL as well)

You're not seriously upset that someone called out the I50 tackle discrepancy? It's 100% relevant because it makes a mockery of the selection integrity.

 

[wild side]

Who does the contracts? Is it Brierty? Coz if it is, he stuffed up bigtime with Darcy.
He's bleeding money out of the club

 

[mike91]

You're not seriously upset that someone called out the I50 tackle discrepancy? It's 100% relevant because it makes a mockery of the selection integrity.

How am I upset? I'm just stating the bleeding obvious for the real reason we loss. His stats are correct, but it also doesn't paint the overall picture, just a hand picked stat.

People don't seem to understand commonsense and blame the whipping boys, when it was actually the "guns" that let us down

Mockery of selection integrity has been around for a long time sadly enough.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

How am I upset? I'm just stating the bleeding obvious for the real reason we loss. His stats are correct, but it also doesn't paint the overall picture, just a hand picked stat.

People don't seem to understand commonsense and blame the whipping boys, when it was actually the "guns" that let us down

Mockery of selection integrity has been around for a long time sadly enough.

Agree with what you've written. Still not sure why you disliked the original post though.

 

[stax on the mull]

Can someone have a @#$@ing rant here. Can't tell this thread from the non-Freo AFL discussion thread which, no surprise, also turns into another attempt to answer questions about why Fremantle isn't as good as other teams.

 

[swanny1234]

Yeah but Jackson was bullied late last year. Don’t think we have a big enough sample size to say if it works or not.

I think you just have to accept Jackson might not win the ruck count, but he’s effectively an extra midfielder, and against someone like Gawn that’s probably a better play…
Darcy was practically useless when he lost the hitout.

 

[DocT]

I may be in the minority, but I agree with him on this. Once he's back fit, just give Jackson the keys, he's the man. Darcy got bullied on the weekend, was horrific to watch.

It's too early to write Darcy off. He's a big man who has changed his body shape and missed a lot of footy. He needs a month before we dump on him. 2-3 years ago he was immense.

 

[nurries]

It's too early to write Darcy off. He's a big man who has changed his body shape and missed a lot of footy. He needs a month before we dump on him. 2-3 years ago he was immense.

I doubt Darcy would of been bought back for the Richmond game if Jackson didnt go down with a hammy.

Or would of been on limited minutes if he did