Opinion Vent & Offtopic

[exile]

there was a post on reddit this morning called "Players who increase their team's chances of winning just by playing".
some bloke went and analysed every player based on games played with them and games played without them, and sorted them based on the win % differential. he explains it a bit further in his post, but basically for the suns it gives us:

maysie is clearly the most influential player we have at the moment. pretty interesting stuff.

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

there was a post on reddit this morning called "Players who increase their team's chances of winning just by playing".
some bloke went and analysed every player based on games played with them and games played without them, and sorted them based on the win % differential. he explains it a bit further in his post, but basically for the suns it gives us:

maysie is clearly the most influential player we have at the moment. pretty interesting stuff.

Mitch Hallahan one win in 19 games

 

[JRyan23]

Just saw a table with wins and losses of teams when a certain player has played and when he doesn't. They are put together and a percentage is made. Steven May and Michael Barlow on the list. Since Barlow went down we were 5 and 7 (if he didn't get injured probably would've beaten Carlton so 6 and 6) and since then we have gone 1 and 8. When Steven May has played we have won 34 and lost 70 (includes the first years when we were a basket case and May wasn't very important) and without him playing the team has won 6 games and lost 42! See for yourself

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[OB11]

Out of interest do you guys in Qld get 'The Front Bar' on Ch7 on Thursday nights?

 

[GcSunsfan]

Out of interest do you guys in Qld get 'The Front Bar' on Ch7 on Thursday nights?

No it's on 7mate at 12am

 

[OB11]

No it's on 7mate at 12am

I rate it - would be worth a DVR to catch up on it over weekend

 

[GcSunsfan]

I rate it - would be worth a DVR to catch up on it over weekend

I love it mate. I watch it the next day on the Telstra tv.
Loved the episode a few weeks ago with Blighty

 

[OB11]

I love it mate. I watch it the next day on the Telstra tv.
Loved the episode a few weeks ago with Blighty

The Leigh Matthew / Blighty / Lingerie story was pure gold

 

[Suns of Anarchy]

Evans can start the slaughter today IMO.
How on earth did the AFL allow an untried coach without a senior coaching mentor from the start?
How is it that Ashcroft and others have been allowed for 7 years to remain in their positions with NO success at all.
I pity Evans as he doesn't have to find AFL standard replacements for just one department, but every facet of the club.
New coach / assistant coaches, football boss (Ashcroft), high performance team, recruiting team, you name it.

Members have suffered long enough.

 

[Mini GF]

Evans can start the slaughter today IMO.
How on earth did the AFL allow an untried coach without a senior coaching mentor from the start?
How is it that Ashcroft and others have been allowed for 7 years to remain in their positions with NO success at all.
I pity Evans as he doesn't have to find AFL standard replacements for just one department, but every facet of the club.
New coach / assistant coaches, football boss (Ashcroft), high performance team, recruiting team, you name it.

Members have suffered long enough.

Agreed the bloodletting can start immediately
Don't let the dust settle and have more interviews act on emotion right now and fire people.
Members deserve better, the Gold Coast deserves better, we were promised to be given a club to be proud of by those arrogant inbreds at AFL House and they have done a disgraceful job.
Too busy trying to root young chicks and use work as a place to cheat on their wives than do the job of getting our club set up.
They've been exposed as dumb, slimy incompetent morons who have got along in life on the back of the passionate supporters of AFL.

I despise the AFL administration.

 

[Mini GF]

The NEEDLES are beating Freo comfortably
In about half an hour we will see the players and fans celebrating the drug cheat club that was given the number 1 draft pick in all 3 drafts after a pitiful punishment making the finals

So wrong

 

[Mini GF]

There u have it
Deliberately drug Cheat
Lose no players
Get given draft picks

Make the 8

Carry on like u are victims that are redeemed

 

[Stroppy]

There u have it
Deliberately drug Cheat
Lose no players
Get given draft picks

Make the 8

Carry on like u are victims that are redeemed

Boddsy,

the Bombers did lose draft picks b/c of the drug saga (and copped a $2m fine).
They lost 3 quality picks overall.

They lost picks 11 and 31 in 2013, and picks 12 and 30 in 2014.
They got back pick 20 in 2014.

They did get a big benefit last year when they got pick 1 in a quality draft b/c of player bans sent them to 18th. Fair enough to criticise that, but they were not 'given' any picks.

Less FakeNews to say something like 'getting a gun in Andy McGrath as a direct result of drug sanctions'.

 

[Supersuns]

There u have it
Deliberately drug Cheat
Lose no players
Get given draft picks

Make the 8

Carry on like u are victims that are redeemed

i take it you dont like essendon

 

[Mini GF]

i take it you dont like essendon

I hate many clubs.
Even the club I grew up going for pre-Suns I now hate.
They shall remain nameless.

 

[SandyToes]

Less FakeNews to say something like 'getting a gun in Andy McGrath as a direct result of drug sanctions'.

Their ladder position was a direct result of the player bans
Ergo they benefited from the drug sanctions
I'm with the Bods on this one
They should have been excluded from accessing first round selections but the AFL was soft as butter.

 

[Cochblocked]

Want to hear a fun fact? Only one Richmond player from the weekend has defeated Geelong and that's Dion Prestia at the Suns.

 

[Supersuns]

Want to hear a fun fact? Only one Richmond player from the weekend has defeated Geelong and that's Dion Prestia at the Suns.

The Harley show that night. You forget how ****ing good he was and could of been

 

[the_chad]

The Harley show that night. You forget how ******* good he was and could of been

The Harley chant after his 6th!
Living in Brisbane and working most Saturdays means I get to few games a year, glad that was one.

 

[Mini GF]

You know there is something I struggle with and that's the way we get described as a sporting graveyard without us ever sticking up for ourselves and defending ourselves or going on the attack

Firstly they talk about failed rugby league clubs
Well the Gold Coast Giants was transferred to the Gold Coast Seagulls so the Giants didn't actually fall over, it just made sense for Seagulls to take over.
Yes the Seagulls did fall over years later.
The next NRL team was Gold Coast Chargers, they were a successful club that loaned the Newcastle Knights money and saved them, now when ARL/Super League compromised the Brisbane Broncos and Super League demanded the "SE QLD Exclusivity Clause" that saw two successful clubs in the Chargers and the South QLD Crushers folded.
The Chargers had $4million sitting in their bank account.
The Titans haven't folded and are alive and kicking.
So only 1 of the 4 clubs actually died.
Our soccer team GCU didn't fold financially either, it was decided to remove them because Clive Palmer was defiantly attacking the FFA. All bills were being paid, there were no creditors.
We have had basketball teams fold yes but who hasn't?
Let's look at other cities
Brisbane: SE QLD Crushers, Brisbane Bullets, many local BRL teams all died, Brisbane Bears (don't mention Carrara)

Sydney-Wests Magpies, Balmain Tigers, St George Dragons, Illawarra Steelers, North Sydney Bears, Newtown Jets, Sydney Kings, West Sydney Razorbacks, multiple other basketball teams.

Melbourne-Fitzroy Lions, South Melbourne Swans, tonnes of basketball franchises, Melbourne Heart.

Canberra-Canberra Cannons basketball, they had a cricket team once too in the 1 day domestic comp, an NSL soccer team.

Hobart-Hobert Devils basketball

Adelaide-Adelaide Rams

Perth-Western Force just died a few days ago.

I'm sure I've missed stacks of other examples from other sports and the same sports

So shove this sporting graveyard crap, there are graveyards everywhere all over the country.

Rant over. Hope people at least digest what I said about Rugby League on the GC

 

[SandyToes]

I don't recall reading this at the time but it's interesting given the current debate around Calyton's performance
Basically a re-ordering of the 2010 draft
http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/08/17/a-reorder-of-the-2010-afl-draft/

 

[jackenny]

I don't recall reading this at the time but it's interesting given the current debate around Calyton's performance
Basically a re-ordering of the 2010 draft
http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/08/17/a-reorder-of-the-2010-afl-draft/

I am alright with our selections for that draft.

Out of curiosity, I had a look at what other clubs drafted to compare our performance. If you want to see what truly horrific drafting looks like, have a gander at Carlton.

Adelaide Crows: Brodie Smith (14), Jarryd Lyons (61)

Brisbane Lions: Jared Polec (5), Patrick Karnezis (25), Ryan Lester (28), Josh Green (32), Claye Beams (65)

Carlton: Matthew Watson (18), Patrick McCarthy (34), Luke Mitchell (42), Andrew McInnes (67), Nicholas Duigan (70)

Collingwood: Alex Fasolo (45), Daniel Farmer (46), Kirk Ugle (60), Paul Seedsman (76), Trent Stubbs (77), Tom young (104)

Essendon: Dyson Heppell (8), Ariel Steinberg (31), Alex Browne (48), Luke Davis (64), Michael Ross (80)

Fremantle: Jayden Pitt (20), Viv Michie (44), Josh Mellington (56)

Geelong: Billie Smedts (15), Cameron Guthrie (23), George Horlin-Smith (37), Jordan Schroder (54)

Gold Coast: David Swallow (1), Harley Bennell (2), Sam Day (3), Josh Caddy (7), Dion Prestia (9), Daniel Gorringe (10), Tom Lynch (11), Seb Tape (13), Jeremy Taylor (39), Jacob Gillbee (49)

Hawthorn: Isaac Smith (19), Mitchell Hallahan (38), Angus Litherland (55), Paul Puopolo (66)

Melbourne: Lucas Cook (12), Jeremy Howe (33), Troy Davis (50), Tom McDonald (53)

North Melbourne: Shaun Atley (17), Kieran Harper (27), Cameron Delaney (69), Ben Mabon (71)

Port Adelaide: Ben Jacobs (16), Ben Newton (35), Aaron Young (36), Cam O'Shea (52)

Richmond: Reece Conca (6), Jake Batchelor (30), Bradley Helbig (47), Dean MacDonald (51), Tom Derickx (63)

St Kilda: Jamie Cripps (24), Sam Crocker (43), Tom Ledger (59), Arryn Siposs (75), Ryan Gamble (90), Dean Polo (103)

Sydney: Jed Lamb (21), Luke Parker (40), Alex Johnson (57), Matthew Spangher (73)

West Coast: Andrew Gaff (4), Jack Darling (26), Scott Lycett (29), Jacob Brennan (62)

Western Bulldogs: Mitch Wallis (22), Tom Liberatore (41), Jayden Schofield (74), Zephaniah Skinner (88), Tom Hill (89)

 

[Cochblocked]

I am alright with our selections for that draft.

Out of curiosity, I had a look at what other clubs drafted to compare our performance. If you want to see what truly horrific drafting looks like, have a gander at Carlton.

Adelaide Crows: Brodie Smith (14), Jarryd Lyons (61)

Brisbane Lions: Jared Polec (5), Patrick Karnezis (25), Ryan Lester (28), Josh Green (32), Claye Beams (65)

Carlton: Matthew Watson (18), Patrick McCarthy (34), Luke Mitchell (42), Andrew McInnes (67), Nicholas Duigan (70)

Collingwood: Alex Fasolo (45), Daniel Farmer (46), Kirk Ugle (60), Paul Seedsman (76), Trent Stubbs (77), Tom young (104)

Essendon: Dyson Heppell (8), Ariel Steinberg (31), Alex Browne (48), Luke Davis (64), Michael Ross (80)

Fremantle: Jayden Pitt (20), Viv Michie (44), Josh Mellington (56)

Geelong: Billie Smedts (15), Cameron Guthrie (23), George Horlin-Smith (37), Jordan Schroder (54)

Gold Coast: David Swallow (1), Harley Bennell (2), Sam Day (3), Josh Caddy (7), Dion Prestia (9), Daniel Gorringe (10), Tom Lynch (11), Seb Tape (13), Jeremy Taylor (39), Jacob Gillbee (49)

Hawthorn: Isaac Smith (19), Mitchell Hallahan (38), Angus Litherland (55), Paul Puopolo (66)

Melbourne: Lucas Cook (12), Jeremy Howe (33), Troy Davis (50), Tom McDonald (53)

North Melbourne: Shaun Atley (17), Kieran Harper (27), Cameron Delaney (69), Ben Mabon (71)

Port Adelaide: Ben Jacobs (16), Ben Newton (35), Aaron Young (36), Cam O'Shea (52)

Richmond: Reece Conca (6), Jake Batchelor (30), Bradley Helbig (47), Dean MacDonald (51), Tom Derickx (63)

St Kilda: Jamie Cripps (24), Sam Crocker (43), Tom Ledger (59), Arryn Siposs (75), Ryan Gamble (90), Dean Polo (103)

Sydney: Jed Lamb (21), Luke Parker (40), Alex Johnson (57), Matthew Spangher (73)

West Coast: Andrew Gaff (4), Jack Darling (26), Scott Lycett (29), Jacob Brennan (62)

Western Bulldogs: Mitch Wallis (22), Tom Liberatore (41), Jayden Schofield (74), Zephaniah Skinner (88), Tom Hill (89)

Geez that was just a bad draft in general. I reckon Heppell, Howe and Gaff would have left if we drafted them. McDonald, Parker, Smith are the ones i really wished we drafted.

 

[GcSunsfan]

Can't believe the Lions are going to ask for another priority pick

 

[Scotty_222]

Can't believe the Lions are going to ask for another priority pick

Why?

I think they are probably in need of one.