VFL coverage

[Rorzza]

Interstate member, would love the VFL to be streamed live.

 

[barrackers]

Why produce VFL content when one can produce this. It's very fitting that the reply in the OP came from the membership sales department.

While the below content is a nice story surely people would be more inclined to buy a membership and support the club through increased investment in promoting our players. We are a sporting club after all and McGuire did spin the line that fans should follow a young player/s journey with the club at the season's launch.

 

[TradeDraft]

Aren't there separate VFL memberships? Doesn't the senior memberships just give you privileges?

Nope as Getting into Home Ground is Free

 

[TradeDraft]

Why produce VFL content when one can produce this. It's very fitting that the reply in the OP came from the membership sales department.

While the below content is a nice story surely people would be more inclined to buy a membership and support the club through increased investment in promoting our players. We are a sporting club after all and McGuire did spin the line that fans should follow a young players journey with the club at the season's launch.

Because that would in there Mind get More Members and More $$$$$$ then doing a VFL Coverage which I disagree with

 

[ClokesShankedIt]

That video is total pap. No-one cares.

 

[TradeDraft]

What a pisstake from the most "resourced" club in the land. No wonder membership numbers are dropping when they spend more money elsewhere trying to expand their brand when the main core of Collingwood is and always will be Mens footy.

Not everyone lives in Victoria, broadcasting the VFL they did with a paid cameraman and a commentator like they did two years ago is all that's needed and wouldn't stress the budget of a club that...models itself on Man U.

Agree more Concerend about the Brand that what we are 1stly and that is a AFL Football Team.

They have taken there Eye of the AFL Team to try and Brining in Different Teams under the Collingwood name instead

 

[BEEG]

Resourcing = money

Money that is spent on some bullshit netball side instead of providing coverage of the footy.

Consider that next time you renew your memberships

Bingo and people said we wouldn't cut money out of other areas.

 

[BEEG]

What's imaginary about it?

If the argument against streaming VFL games is due to the cost, then it's logical to look at what other costs the club is carrying and questioning the spending priorities.

That is particularly true when the league and the clubs are carrying the costs of running the netball and women's football clubs, who by the way are starting to get noisy about not being paid as much as the blokes despite the fact that their competitions don't earn enough revenue to exist as professional sports in their own right.

I've no problem with women playing netball or football, but don't whinge about inequality when you basically on welfare

Scribe26 has a clear bias view when it comes to anything AFLW or Netball.

 

[BEEG]

Interstate member, would love the VFL to be streamed live.

Will you settle for a 60 second clip or possibly a netball game?

 

[TradeDraft]

Bingo and people said we wouldn't cut money out of other areas.

Guess Club think we are Dumb or Something

 

[76woodenspooners]

Will you settle for a 60 second clip or possibly a netball game?

SNL netball have a broadcast agreement - the club’s media department don’t have to do anything to bring the games to the fans.

 

[TradeDraft]

SNL netball have a broadcast agreement - the club’s media department don’t have to do anything to bring the games to the fans.

At least they get every game on Ch9 but only a Few VFL games get on Channel 7

 

[76woodenspooners]

I have been bugging the club re the lack of coverage of the VFL and finally received a reply, not a good one but not surprising either. Here is their reply.


Good morning,

Thank you for your enquiry.

I have had a brief chat with out digital content producers, and it seems that simple answer comes down to resourcing.

Live-streaming is an incredibly taxing project to undertake, and at this time the feedback seems to be that those resources - staff and otherwise - are better spent on some of the other content pieces we produce aroun VFL that other clubs don't, such as the 60-second wrap immediately post-game, or the dedicated weekly show.

There is some scope for radio broadcasts to return for away games, but this is still being worked out on the back end.

In summary, each decision made in relation to VFL coverage relies heavily upon internal resourcing and external feedback. Your comments are certainly valuable, and I can assure you that it's taken on board.

Both staff members I spoke to are very passionate about the VFL, and they wish they could do more, but unfortunately their time is being devoted to other initiatives at the present time.

If you have any further questions feel free to call us on 1300 MAGPIE (62 47 43), or simply reply to this email.
　
Kind regards,
　
Josh
Sales & Acquisitions Coordinator
Collingwood Football Club

Credit to the club that they replied to you, I suspect that in the past they wouldn’t have done that.

 

[TradeDraft]

Read it again and it came across Here:

In summary, each decision made in relation to VFL coverage relies heavily upon internal resourcing and external feedback. Your comments are certainly valuable, and I can assure you that it's taken on board.

Both staff members I spoke to are very passionate about the VFL, and they wish they could do more, but unfortunately their time is being devoted to other initiatives at the present time.

There is not enough people who work with the VFL Team to be able to get someone to do that.

Can Hire 1-2 More People to do that and we are team that is Suppose to be Loaded with Cash

 

[76woodenspooners]

That is particularly true when the league and the clubs are carrying the costs of running the netball and women's football clubs, who by the way are starting to get noisy about not being paid as much as the blokes despite the fact that their competitions don't earn enough revenue to exist as professional sports in their own right.

I've no problem with women playing netball or football, but don't whinge about inequality when you basically on welfare

Could that argument not be applied at the VFL? How can the club justify broadcasting VFL games when the competition is basically on welfare?

At least the netball have a broadcast agreement and paid admission into their games.

 

[Anzacday]

There is not enough people who work with the VFL Team to be able to get someone to do that.

I spoke to the behind the goals cameraman last year and they're volunteers.
I may be wrong, I got the impression the VFL Club is full of volunteers.

 

[MagpieJoel]

Wow there are some entitled people on here.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

I spoke to the behind the goals cameraman last year and they're volunteers.
I may be wrong, I got the impression the VFL Club is full of volunteers.

Lucky you mods are getting the big bucks on here

 

[76woodenspooners]

I’ve made this point many times beforehand, but hey, this is another thread on the topic, so here we go again ...


The club did try streaming VFL games before and have concluded that it took too much resources to do it.

I just reckon that the club went about it totally the wrong way. They basically set it up the same way as an AFL call, which isn’t really what people are after - if they wanted that then they’d simply watch the VFL.

The VFL is a sub-culture, a community.

Many of us remember the VFL coverage we had around 6 years ago when Sam Mason would do the followitlive feed. A lot of folks tapped into those. It wasn’t just about ...

Sam Mason: Shae gathers the ball 20 meters out and goals

... it was also about...

Bob from Brisbane: Yoohoo!!!

Madpie88: Go Pies!!!!

... and it was also about ...

Piefreak: Tom looks to be having a good game

Sam Mason: Good pickup there Piefreak, he’s come out of the rooms at half time breathing fire

It was basically an uber moderated VFL game-day thread with live commentary.

Now that’s not what we’re talking about here, we’re talking about livestream and replay of video. But many of the principles are the same. Get the fans involved. Take their questions and answer them. Let the fans express themselves. Our club seem to define “Community” as being about taking homeless people off the streets. Whilst that is indeed a worthy pursuit ...

... at its principle “Community” at Collingwood should be about the fans and members being part of something bigger than just themselves. That’s an obvious thing for AFL - being part of a big crowd. But for VFL games, eventhough the numbers are much smaller, there is still the rich vein of community that runs through it.

—oOo—

A few years ago a bunch of folks used to run a podcast for this board.

Somebody recorded the music intro. A few different folks got on there and did the talking. Some other folks submitted their own segments. Somebody else did the recording of the whole thing. Another person did the editing. Yet another person did the uploading. Yet another person was doing the organising - getting all those people together, and trying to get somebody from the opposition on the podcast, trying to get the club to make people available for interviews, etc, etc.

That was was an enormous amount of work for the organisers. It would have been much less work for the organisers if fewer people were involved, but the whole point of it was for it to be a community production and to give as many people the opportunity to get involved as possible.

I see the VFL coverage could be a similar type of thing.

 

[Kabana]

Scribe26 has a clear bias view when it comes to anything AFLW or Netball.

Gender fluid?

 

[Kabana]

Could that argument not be applied at the VFL? How can the club justify broadcasting VFL games when the competition is basically on welfare?

At least the netball have a broadcast agreement and paid admission into their games.

Yeah well Williamstown and Port Melbourne genius

 

[jackcass]

Nope as Getting into Home Ground is Free

You get in for free because we play at open public grounds Dave.

I just checked and it seems we don't have separate VFL memberships like other teams such as Box Hill and Northern Blues. Just the footy, AFLW and netball memberships.

 

[magpies42]

What else do we spend our money on these days, footy caps mean we are restricted...I would have thought we’d have enough to expand the media team at least.

In any case I would much rather have live coverage of a VFl game than the 60 second wrap ups and the crappy lulie st show. And definitely more than sports galore and the other nonsense

 

[Vicky Park]

Scribe26 has a clear bias view when it comes to anything AFLW or Netball.

No, he/she doesnt. Just pointing out that spending in one area of the club (media) is not neccessarily related to spending in another area of the club (netball).

As a VFL follower I see most games during the season. I also appreciate that many who would love to see VFL games live cant, for whatever reasons. If the club are saying that the $ and numbers dont stack up for live streaming or replays, then I believe them. In time the numbers might work, but they dont right now.

Off topic, I'd prefer the club put resources into ensuring more games (VFL, AFLW and VFLW) are played at Victoria Park. If we could concentrate on building up a Vic Park following, then the benefits will flow to our second tier footy teams, including building their profile and support. Benefits for all! Might even generate more and better media coverage of these teams down the track.

 

[CFC2010]

All most of us are after is a replay of the game the very next day.

Commentary not necessary and as I said last week (Port Game) we don't need Spielberg to direct it.

You know how good it was last night after work to sit on my couch on my 65" Samsung Q9 and watch the replay.
Yes the repetitive Home & Away commercial was annoying (my kids found in amusing) but beggars cant be choosers as they say.
Just have a microphone near Dave and we will all be entertained.

I would love to know if that is "feasible" in the Clubs eyes.