VFL flags don't count.

[The Kipster]

. You ungrateful interstate pricks can get ****ed.

your the ungrateful ****ers...your league was dying, you had no money..whilst the WAFL was the form comp, followed closely by the SANFL...so in effect dog nuts, there was a good chance your shite club may of had to play here or fold...so STFU already

 

[PortBrillance]

Pretty sure some Port poster on here has a signature of PAFC 36 AFL flags, or something like that? Might be wrong

never seen that, so you are wrong

 

[AjsGuns]

agreed

the vfl was an uneven playing field

bragging about vfl premierships is like beating up children and claiming to be a good fighter

You sir are an idiot.

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

never seen that, so you are wrong

You have never seen aliens, so does that mean they dont exist too?

 

[Brilliant]

your the ungrateful ****ers...your league was dying, you had no money..whilst the WAFL was the form comp, followed closely by the SANFL...so in effect dog nuts, there was a good chance your shite club may of had to play here or fold...so STFU already

And we would have to start again in regards to our flags count wouldn't we. Teams like Port would still have 30+ SANFL flags while we would have none, VFL flags wouldn't count.
Or would the league's flag count reset to zero because a few VFL clubs joined the SANFL or WAFL.

So in essence I am right, you ungrateful pricks can get ****ed.

Ironic that you "saved" our league by totally destroying your own.

 

[Bombers 2003]

VFL Flags are for the irrelvant VIC teams who have been a disgrace in the AFL.

And WCE is relevant,except as a bunch of criminal drug ridden freaks like benny boy

 

[Rojik of the Arctic]

All this from a Freo troll? Man, if fish bit that easily poor people wouldn't starve.

 

[absfab]

your the ungrateful ****ers...your league was dying, you had no money..whilst the WAFL was the form comp, followed closely by the SANFL...so in effect dog nuts, there was a good chance your shite club may of had to play here or fold...so STFU already

Just coz you want it to be so, doesn't make it so.

There were sufficient State matches played in the timescale outside the State of Origin matches which suggest that the WAFL and SANFL reached approximately the standard of VFL Reserves.

Nice try.

 

[Johnny Utah #9]

That's stupid, how is Hawthorn's premiership from 1989 worth any less than Collingwood's in 1990?

Very good point.

The EXACT same teams competed in 1989 as 1990, yet various flogs on here would try and have you believe that Collingwood's counts yet Hawthorn's doesn't!!

It's funny how this debate never occurs in leagues such as the NFL or NBA which have similarly admitted teams from other leagues and introduced expansion sides. The Lakers 16 titles or the Celtics 17 all count as NBA titles even though numerous new sides have joined the league since the majority of those were won.

 

[D_One]

Total Senior Premierships Won by all the AFL clubs

Port Adelaide - Total 35 - 5 SAFA, 4 SAFL, 25 SANFL, 1 AFL
Essendon - Total 20 - 4 VFA, 14 VFL, 2 AFL
Carlton - Total 18 - 2 VFA, 15 VFL, 1 AFL
Collingwood - Total 15 - 1 VFA, 13 VFL, 1 AFL
Geelong - Total 15 - 7 VFA, 6 VFL, 2 AFL
Melbourne - Total 12 - 12 VFL
Richmond - Total 12 - 2 VFA, 10 VFL
Nth Melb - Total 10 - 6 VFA, 2 VFL, 2 AFL
Hawthorn - Total 10 - 8 VFL, 2 AFL
Ftscry/Wstn Bdogs - Total 10 - 9 VFA, 1 VFL
Sydney/Sth Melb - Total 9 - 5 VFA, 3 VFL, 1 AFL
West Coast - Total 3 - 3 AFL
Brisbane Lions - Total 3 - 3 AFL
Adelaide - Total 2 - 2 AFL
St Kilda - Total 1 - 1 VFL
Fremantle - Total 0 - 0 AFL


I hope that clears it up.

 

[HELLA BONG RIPS]

You sir are an idiot.

well hello to you too

 

[Bad Brain]

Club's should certainly be pround of there VFL or SANFL flags as they are a part of the clubs history. But becoming part of the AFL is also part of that club's history, as it made the change from a semi-professional pastime to the biggest competition in the country.

Clive = Wisdom and the VFL is not the AFL.

 

[candiehappy]

Club's should certainly be pround of there VFL or SANFL flags as they are a part of the clubs history. But becoming part of the AFL is also part of that club's history, as it made the change from a semi-professional pastime to the biggest competition in the country.

Clive = Wisdom and the VFL is not the AFL.

Freo are an enigma. They have no history, but as a club they are history.

 

[Brilliant]

Club's should certainly be pround of there VFL or SANFL flags as they are a part of the clubs history. But becoming part of the AFL is also part of that club's history, as it made the change from a semi-professional pastime to the biggest competition in the country.

Clive = Wisdom and the VFL is not the AFL.

My team has always been in the biggest competition in the country. That's why you interstate flogs joined it.

AFL = VFL

 

[DockersMad]

Total Premierships Won by all the AFL clubs

Brisbane Lions - Total 3 - 3 AFL
West Coast - Total 3 - 3 AFL*
Adelaide - Total 2 - 2 AFL
Essendon - Total 2 - 2 AFL
Geelong - Total 2 - 2 AFL
Hawthorn - Total 2 - 2 AFL
Nth Melb - Total 2 - 2 AFL
Carlton - Total 1 - 1 AFL*
Collingwood - Total 1 - 1 AFL
Port Adelaide - Total 1 - 1 AFL
Sydney/Sth Melb - Total 1 - 1 AFL
Fremantle - Total 0 - 0 AFL
Ftscry/Wstn Bdogs - Total 0 - 0 AFL
Melbourne - Total 0 - 0 AFL
Richmond - Total 0 - 0 AFL
St Kilda - Total 0 - 0 AFL

I hope that clears it up.

I tidied it up a bit more for you D_O, so you didn't have to research all the WAFL flags won by Fremantle teams.

 

[Gus]

I think the OP and supporters are right.

And with that precedent established we can quite rightly see that Etihad Stadium didn't exist before 2009, and AAMI Stadium didn't exist before 2002.

Damn games were tough at those grounds (and others) before they existed.

This brings into question the 740,000 Premierships won by Port Adelaide at a non-existent venue.

We can probably also rule out the Brisbane Lions premierships as they were all won wearing a different jumper to the current one. By association, we can safely assume they were a different team.

AND I just worked out why the Bulldogs sucked so much until 2007. Seeing as how Brian Lake didn't exist before then, they obviously played the better part of 5 years a man short.

It's amazing how much a name change can affect history. Someone remind me if I ever get in too much debt that I can always change my name and erase my past.

Also, the NMFC went missing for a period of time until last or the year before when they returned. Kangaroos? never heard of 'em.

The Western Bulldogs are about the same age as Freo because they were not around pre-1997. A power mate of mine always argues this: The bulldogs have no premierships at all because they were called footscray when they won. He's one of those "VFL flags don't count" ignoramuses.

 

[PortBrillance]

Total Senior Premierships Won by all the AFL clubs

Port Adelaide - Total 35 - 5 SAFA, 4 SAFL, 25 SANFL, 1 AFL
Essendon - Total 20 - 4 VFA, 14 VFL, 2 AFL
Carlton - Total 18 - 2 VFA, 15 VFL, 1 AFL
Collingwood - Total 15 - 1 VFA, 13 VFL, 1 AFL
Geelong - Total 15 - 7 VFA, 6 VFL, 2 AFL
Melbourne - Total 12 - 12 VFL
Richmond - Total 12 - 2 VFA, 10 VFL
Nth Melb - Total 10 - 6 VFA, 2 VFL, 2 AFL
Hawthorn - Total 10 - 8 VFL, 2 AFL
Ftscry/Wstn Bdogs - Total 10 - 9 VFA, 1 VFL
Sydney/Sth Melb - Total 9 - 5 VFA, 3 VFL, 1 AFL
West Coast - Total 3 - 3 AFL
Brisbane Lions - Total 3 - 3 AFL
Adelaide - Total 2 - 2 AFL
St Kilda - Total 1 - 1 VFL
Fremantle - Total 0 - 0 AFL


I hope that clears it up.

we are simply the greatest. nothing more nothing less

 

[Prodgasm]

I acknowledge that VFL premierships count and heres a cool chart. Still makes me laugh though when people bring up premierships won 50 years ago as a defense to being shit now, almost as much as port being the most successful club in football.

 

[candiehappy]

I acknowledge that VFL premierships count and heres a cool chart. Still makes me laugh though when people bring up premierships won 50 years ago as a defense to being shit now, almost as much as port being the most successful club in football.

I don't think that the Saints supporters will appreciate you posting that ...

 

[Gus]

I acknowledge that VFL premierships count and heres a cool chart. Still makes me laugh though when people bring up premierships won 50 years ago as a defense to being shit now, almost as much as port being the most successful club in football.

It hurts seeing ours almost bare, but then again would rather see it bare than with all those unflattering brown stripes.

 

[D_One]

I tidied it up a bit more for you D_O, so you didn't have to research all the WAFL flags won by Fremantle teams.

Your table is correct, just as mine was. And you are also correct when you state that there were many WANFL/WAFL flags won by the Fremantle teams (i.e. East Fremantle and South Fremantle). Unfortunately there have been no senior premierships of any variety won by the Fremantle Football Club that is currently running around in the AFL. This joke of an organisation is currently sitting on a big fat doughnut

 

[DockersMad]

Unfortunately there have been no senior premierships of any variety won by the Fremantle Football Club that is currently running around in the AFL.

If you're going to use this as a rider, then Port can't claim any either. The Fremantle Football club did win senior premierships when they were first formed in the 1890's. They were so successful in fact that they had to split them into two teams to give the others a fighting chance.

 

[PortBrillance]

^ big lol's

 

[D_One]

If you're going to use this as a rider, then Port can't claim any either. The Fremantle Football club did win senior premierships when they were first formed in the 1890's. They were so successful in fact that they had to split them into two teams to give the others a fighting chance.

One small difference. The PAFC that won all the premierships in the SANFL also won the 1994 tender to move to the AFL. Which they did. The FFC that won the premierships in the 1890s disbanded at the turn of the 19th century and there is no continuity between the two FFC clubs.

Nice try. You should consider becoming a Japanese War Historian or a Camry Crows supporter. They also are pretty good at trying to rewrite history.

 

[Mutant]

If you're going to use this as a rider, then Port can't claim any either. The Fremantle Football club did win senior premierships when they were first formed in the 1890's. They were so successful in fact that they had to split them into two teams to give the others a fighting chance.

This from your clubs own website:

"The rich football heritage in Fremantle dates back to 1885 when the premiership was contested by four clubs – Rovers (predecessor of the Perth Football Club), Victorians, Perth High School and Fremantle (wearing the infamous red and white playing strip).

In 1886, a second Fremantle-based side – Unions - replaced Perth High School to maintain the number of teams at four. The following year Fremantle did not continue in the competition leaving Unions as the only Fremantle team. Unions adopted Fremantle’s red and white playing uniforms that year and in 1890, they adopted the Fremantle Football Club name. The team won flags in 1888 and 1889 as Unions and in 1890 as Fremantle."

So successful my arse Fremantle did not continue in the competition - ie went broke, wasn't supported whatever, perhaps check the history section on the website before you write shit.

It would appear however that "Victorians" were part of that competition bastards were coming over for our jobs back then