VFL VFL Round 8 v GWS - Saturday May 17, 10:05am @ Victoria Park

[SchuPie]

Dean, West, Demattia and Ryan best for mine.

Very happy for Dean, Haz and Ryan in particular
Here’s hoping this gives them the confidence to own their position and develop from here

 

[Jen2310]

 

[stormskye]

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Ryan is stiff in that list!

 

[Jen2310]

Ryan is stiff in that list!

Yeah I thought he was quite good this morning

 

[swoop42]

How much TOG for Mitchell?

 

[TradeDraft]

How much TOG for Mitchell?

Played the Full Game but don’t know TOG

 

[Jen2310]

The numbers:


Harry DeMattia (18 contested possessions, eight inside 50s) continued his impressive form following his move to the inside midfield, while Tom Mitchell (17 disposals,10 tackles) showed Collingwood fans he’s on track in his return to AFL football.


Sam Glover (13 intercepts), Charlie Dean (12 intercepts) and Jakob Ryan (10 intercepts) were crucial in defence with GWS constantly showing their fight up forward, while Josh Browne (18 disposals, seven tackles) provided defensive pressure all over the ground.


Charlie West (three goals) was the only multiple goal scorer of the day, while Harrison Kennedy (five inside 50s, one goal) helped to find his fellow forwards.



COLLINGWOOD 4.0 6.2 8.5 8.8 (56)
GWS 2.3 4.8 5.12 5.15 (45)


GOALS:
Collingwood: Charlie West (3), Chad Mulvogue, Harry Mahoney, Harrison Kennedy, Josh Browne, Josh Bennetts

Mitchell shows off experience in defiant VFL win over GWS

2018 Brownlow medallist Tom Mitchell helps young VFL Magpies hand GIANTS first VFL loss

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

 

[stormskye]

The numbers:


Harry DeMattia (18 contested possessions, eight inside 50s) continued his impressive form following his move to the inside midfield, while Tom Mitchell (17 disposals,10 tackles) showed Collingwood fans he’s on track in his return to AFL football.


Sam Glover (13 intercepts), Charlie Dean (12 intercepts) and Jakob Ryan (10 intercepts) were crucial in defence with GWS constantly showing their fight up forward, while Josh Browne (18 disposals, seven tackles) provided defensive pressure all over the ground.


Charlie West (three goals) was the only multiple goal scorer of the day, while Harrison Kennedy (five inside 50s, one goal) helped to find his fellow forwards.



COLLINGWOOD 4.0 6.2 8.5 8.8 (56)
GWS 2.3 4.8 5.12 5.15 (45)


GOALS:
Collingwood: Charlie West (3), Chad Mulvogue, Harry Mahoney, Harrison Kennedy, Josh Browne, Josh Bennetts

Mitchell shows off experience in defiant VFL win over GWS

2018 Brownlow medallist Tom Mitchell helps young VFL Magpies hand GIANTS first VFL loss

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

Keep HDM in the midfield. Has not a winger

 

[Jen2310]

Keep KDM in the midfield. Has not a winger

On better conditons, I'd like to see them persist with cochran on the wing. Its fascinating. His running, speed and endurance I can understand it.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

On better conditons, I'd like to see them persist with cochran on the wing. Its fascinating. His running, speed and endurance I can understand it.

Agree. Cochran doesn't look like a KPP to me. Despite his height, he looks like a runner, a ballcarrier. My suspicion has been that a running halfback is his go, but can definitely see how his skillset would appeal on a wing.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Full Time

Collingwood 8.8.56
GWS 5.15.45

Goals: West 3, Mulvogue, H Mahoney, Kennedy, Browne, Bennetts

Disposals: DeMattia 28, Ryan 24, Markov 24, Dean 22, Browne 22, Mitchell 21, Glover 21, Jiath 18, Grey 17

AFs: Browne 105, Mitchell 104, Markov 97, Dean 93, Ryan 87

 

[Aussie pie]

So the club played Ali to get him qualified for the MSD last week and played him again today. What do we think, I didn’t think much of his game. He really didn’t want to get involved and stood out a lot. Looked like a kid playing with men which I guess he was so I can give him a break for that and that he’s relatively new to AFL, apparently has a basketball background. Anyway there’s probably better more seasoned players that we can draft.

 

[Jen2310]

Stats.

AFL Listers;

Harry DeMattia - 28 disposals, 4 tackles, 4 clearances, 8 inside 50's
Jakob Ryan - 24 disposals, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 10 intercepts
Oleg Markov

37

Oleg Markov

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

3star

MG

228.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.4

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

295.2

5star

- 24 disposals, 8 marks, 12 intercepts
Charlie Dean - 22 disposals, 8 marks, 13 intercepts
Tom Mitchell - 21 disposals, 13 tackles, 3 clearances
Tew Jiath - 18 disposals, 8 marks, 3 tackles, 5 inside 50's
Charlie West - 12 disposals, 3 goals, 4 marks, 4 score involvements
Oscar Steene - 10 disposals, 21 hitouts, 2 clearances
Joel Cochran - 9 disposals, 2 intercepts
Will Hayes - 8 disposals, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements
Iliro Smit - 10 disposals, 10 hitouts, 2 clearances


VFL Listers.

Josh Browne - 22 disposals, 1 goal, 9 tackles, 7 clearances
Sam Glover - 21 disposals, 5 marks, 12 intercepts
Brady Grey

Brady Grey

Age

29

Ht

182cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.7

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

4.2

5star

G

0.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.4

5star

G

0.4

3star

- 17 disposals, 4 tackles, 8 intercepts.
Chad Mulvogue - 16 disposals, 3 marks, 2 clearances
Max Mahoney - 15 disposals, 3 marks, 2 clearances
Harry Kennedy - 14 disposals, 6 tackles, 3 clearances
Josh Bennetts - 12 disposals, 3 tackles,
Christian Algeri - 10 disposals, 6 tackles,
Harry Mahoney - 8 disposals, 1 goal,
Riley Mason - 7 disposals, 2 tackles, 2 marks, 4 inside 50's, 3 score involvements
Liam Hude - 6 disposals.

23rd man: Rod Ali - 5 disposals, 5 tackles, 2 marks, 3 intercepts

 

[stormskye]

So the club played Ali to get him qualified for the MSD last week and played him again today. What do we think, apart from the racist commentator calling him Jaith for more than half the game I didn’t think much of his game. He really didn’t want to get involved and stood out a lot. Looked like a kid playing with men which I guess he was so I can give him a break for that and that he’s relatively new to AFL, apparently has a basketball background. Anyway there’s probably better more seasoned players that we can draft.

Why was it racist getting him confused? I get Browne and Hayes mixed up a lot, sometimes. Same as glover and Dean from a distance. Strange comment.

He was ok. Not sold on taking him in the MSD

 

[Palmer Stoat]

Why was it racist getting him confused?

Was about to say the same thing. Similar height, build, complexion, hairstyle, headband... Don't need be a bigot to mistake the two of 'em.

 

[Jen2310]

I get the potential that clubs would like in Ali, he'd be a very raw prospect, and I think would be him and TJ would be too alike, very similar roles and athletic profiles.
Wouldn't be my first option

I'd go with A key forward or defender with our first pick
and Browne with the 2nd.

 

[Doc1763]

So the club played Ali to get him qualified for the MSD last week and played him again today. What do we think, apart from the racist commentator calling him Jaith for more than half the game I didn’t think much of his game. He really didn’t want to get involved and stood out a lot. Looked like a kid playing with men which I guess he was so I can give him a break for that and that he’s relatively new to AFL, apparently has a basketball background. Anyway there’s probably better more seasoned players that we can draft.

what makes the commentator racist? I mixed them up as well.

 

[stormskye]

I get the potential that clubs would like in Ali, he'd be a very raw prospect, and I think would be him and TJ would be too alike, very similar roles and athletic profiles.
Wouldn't be my first option

I'd go with A key forward or defender with our first pick
and Browne with the 2nd.

How many defenders in the VFL playing as well as Dean today? Just an open question Jen as I’m not sold there’s really any that are standouts over and above Dean as depth.

I’d def take Browne. Like what he does. Kicking still a bit iffy

 

[Jen2310]

How many defenders in the VFL playing as well as Dean today? Just an open question Jen as I’m not sold there’s really any that are standouts over and above Dean as depth.

I’d def take Browne. Like what he does. Kicking still a bit iffy

Yeah, not too many standouts. And I'm not going with Tomlinson, as I don't think we'll go for players for 6 months. Mccartin talk has faded off.

Sure Browne's kicking has a bit of work, but didn't stop us with Long. I think he has a lot of attributes that would suit us. He can play multiple positions too. He plays above the level, and we're clearly looking at him (and Mason, though they may expect him to be off the board)

 

[Brent24]

My main takeaway is that HDM isn't done just yet. Looked damn good on ball.

We also have a bunch of guys that should play footy this year. West, HDM, Jiath, Dean and Ryan could fill a role if needed. These guys are learning the system and when the time comes, they're capable.

 

[stormskye]

My main takeaway is that HDM isn't done just yet. Looked damn good on ball.

We also have a bunch of guys that should play footy this year. West, HDM, Jiath, Dean and Ryan could fill a role if needed. These guys are learning the system and when the time comes, they're capable.

He always looks better in the midfield. The experiment of putting HDM on the wing needs to stop. He’s at home in the centre and was very good today against a team that hadn’t lost a game

 

[No SPIN]

He always looks better in the midfield. The experiment of putting HDM on the wing needs to stop. He’s at home in the centre and was very good today against a team that hadn’t lost a game

I wish I could get excited about HDM - all I see is a booming left foot kick.
He’s unexceptional in all other facets of the game.
What am I missing?

 

[stormskye]

I wish I could get excited about HDM - all I see is a booming left foot kick.
He’s unexceptional in all other facets of the game.
What am I missing?

Was very good today. Won a lot of contested footy, set up some goals.

I’m normally critical myself.

He’s been poor on the wing in the past. Don’t know why they’ve stuck him there. Solid block of games in the centre and will give us more insight

 

[Ludovico]

Was very good today. Won a lot of contested footy, set up some goals.

I’m normally critical myself.

He’s been poor on the wing in the past. Don’t know why they’ve stuck him there. Solid block of games in the centre and will give us more insight

Really interested in how much potential he has in this role. Does he look like he can be better than for example Fin Macrae as a comparison?

 

[stormskye]

Really interested in how much potential he has in this role. Does he look like he can be better than for example Fin Macrae as a comparison?

Need more games in the centre to really judge him. TBH I liked Macrae early on, but his lack of speed and contest eventually hurt him. HDM has reported speed. Haven’t seen it on show that much to date however.

Long way to go but was pleased as I’ve been disappointed this season. Ryan is another who stood up today. Two I’ve wanted to kick on. Hopefully they can