VFL to merge with NEAFL, under-18 comps revamped in massive changes to AFL’s second tier

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Walshawk

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My god do you not understand? They would get a significant salary increase in the national reserves, because it's a much higher standard than the VFL and only the best VFL players would get in
Just saw your post you want to pay them $60k. So, each reserves team would need 15 or so. So 270 players x $60k. That is over $16 million. Are you serious?
 

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Just saw your post you want to pay them $60k. So, each reserves team would need 15 or so. So 270 players x $60k. That is over $16 million. Are you serious?
You can sell the competition and get good ratings, and how much money are the best SANFL/WAFL/VFL players making?
 

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That’s horribly low if correct.
Compare that to $506000 Cap for each AFLW team for a season half as long.

I could see many blokes walking away to play local footy for slightly less money (Possibly more) but less commitment and less impact on their jobs.
People do already. More money playing in local comps or the sticks
 

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My god do you not understand? They would get a significant salary increase in the national reserves, because it's a much higher standard than the VFL and only the best VFL players would get in
A national reserves comp would be about the same standard as the vfl is now. Most of the vfl teams are AFL reserves, as either standalone teams or aligned. You also have Port Melbourne and Williamstown who make the finals every year because they’re more mature than the other teams.


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You can sell the competition and get good ratings, and how much money are the best SANFL/WAFL/VFL players making?
Most of the highest paid players in Victoria don’t play in the VFL. Most talented players don’t make it as an AFL player would rather be the main man for a local club where they can get $1500 a game and maybe a car from a sponsor. A lot of them would rather train twice a week and be a 100 goal full forward rather than play as a top up and be in and out of position of the team depending on which AFL listed player is playing reserves that week. Being a top up player might appeal to fringe 19 - 22 year olds who are prepared to sacrifice their own game for the good of the AFL club and its listed players.
Your idea is not appealing to either football fans, or players. It would not rate well enough to be profitable and thus would not appeal to the AFL, or any other league.
 

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Most of the highest paid players in Victoria don’t play in the VFL. Most talented players don’t make it as an AFL player would rather be the main man for a local club where they can get $1500 a game and maybe a car from a sponsor. A lot of them would rather train twice a week and be a 100 goal full forward rather than play as a top up and be in and out of position of the team depending on which AFL listed player is playing reserves that week. Being a top up player might appeal to fringe 19 - 22 year olds who are prepared to sacrifice their own game for the good of the AFL club and its listed players.
Your idea is not appealing to either football fans, or players. It would not rate well enough to be profitable and thus would not appeal to the AFL, or any other league.
How much do the highest paid vfl players get per year if they play every game?

How do you know people wouldn't watch this league? Be a lot more interesting that the VFL which is shown on FTA
 

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How much do the highest paid vfl players get per year if they play every game?

How do you know people wouldn't watch this league? Be a lot more interesting that the VFL which is shown on FTA
Maybe, maybe not. Either way the networks don’t pay anything for VFL, etc.
 

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Once again I'll ask, how much do the highest VFL/SANFL ect players get paid?
Do you know how to do a google search? Maybe try it.
Doing the maths from a google search, VFL listed players at aligned clubs would average around $500 a game so $5 - $8k.
At stand alone clubs that would also be the average however clubs might have one or two players on $20k+
 

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Do you know how to do a google search? Maybe try it.
Doing the maths from a google search, VFL listed players at aligned clubs would average around $500 a game so $5 - $8k.
At stand alone clubs that would also be the average however clubs might have one or two players on $20k+
People have claimed top SANFL/WAFL players have earned as much as 50k per year.
 

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People have claimed top SANFL/WAFL players have earned as much as 50k per year.
That sounds about right. But your suggestion to pay hundreds of players large amounts is not feasible.
Anyway, The SANFL & WAFL are more popular than the VFL, as they were once the highest level in their states. For those in SA, who gets bigger crowds - Norwood or Crows reserves?
Are you in Melbourne? Vermont in the EFL probably draws bigger crowds than most VFL clubs. Not all players want to play reserves football. Most would prefer to play for a real club than essentially be fill in for a reserves team even if it is AFL reserves.
 
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Are there any actual details on this released?

Is it just Sydney, GWS, Gold Coast and Brisbane joining the VFL or do the other NEAFL Clubs, like Broadbeach, Sydney Uni etc also join? Wouldn't they just get destroyed by the VFL sides? NEAFL standard is more akin to Amateur footy is it not? How is the travel going to work? VFL sides going to fly up to Gold Coast? Or will they try and align Reserves matches with League sides and only send teams up there if they're playing an AFL affiliate that is also going up?
Broadbeach never been in NEAFL - facts right
 

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People do already. More money playing in local comps or the sticks
Agree. Reducing the cap will only mean more players lost. It’ll be hard to have a premier state competition with a bunch of the better players running around in other comps.
Maybe five years ago. The days of this are over for now. Local salary caps have been slashed from next year onwards. The VFL salary cap has been roughly double that of top suburban leagues for a couple of years now and that’ll be the case next year too.

Money has dried right up.
 

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For those in SA, who gets bigger crowds - Norwood or Crows reserves?
The Crows reserves have one home game during the entire year. A match against Port Adelaide played at a country oval.

All other games are played away. It was part of their pitch for getting into the league, all SANFL teams would get two extra matches at their home ground, and the Crows would bring good crowds of 5-7000 to those games. They don't.

Most Crows fans that have the slightest interest in the SANFL already follow one of the SANFL clubs, so they've got little interest in West Lakes reserves.
 

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Maybe five years ago. The days of this are over for now. Local salary caps have been slashed from next year onwards. The VFL salary cap has been roughly double that of top suburban leagues for a couple of years now and that’ll be the case next year too.

Money has dried right up.
Cap is not able to be enforced. There’s still plenty of cash floating around. The points system has had an effect though as you can’t hide from it.
 
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Can anyone peek behind the paywall on this one about the NAB League Boys/Girls comps?

A whole league of elite under-age football coaches has been sidelined by contentious changes to the NAB League competitions.
As of next year one coach will look after both the girls and boys teams in each region, with one season leading into another.

The AFL will hire the coaches as full-timers.

But coaches from the NAB League Girls were unable to apply for the coaching jobs when the AFL advertised them internally.

Their contracts expired at the end of May, ruling them out as “in-house’’ applicants.

Only AFL employees will be considered for the full-time positions.

NAB League Boys coaches and region talent managers who had been part-time must reapply for their jobs.
 

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Maybe five years ago. The days of this are over for now. Local salary caps have been slashed from next year onwards. The VFL salary cap has been roughly double that of top suburban leagues for a couple of years now and that’ll be the case next year too.

Money has dried right up.
Beg to differ mate. That's like saying no money exchanges hands in the ammos
 

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A whole league of elite under-age football coaches has been sidelined by contentious changes to the NAB League competitions.
As of next year one coach will look after both the girls and boys teams in each region, with one season leading into another.

The AFL will hire the coaches as full-timers.

But coaches from the NAB League Girls were unable to apply for the coaching jobs when the AFL advertised them internally.

Their contracts expired at the end of May, ruling them out as “in-house’’ applicants.

Only AFL employees will be considered for the full-time positions.

NAB League Boys coaches and region talent managers who had been part-time must reapply for their jobs.
This has disaster written all over it.
 

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