Paul Amy on SEN now. Licences sent out last Friday. Some clubs still deciding (inc Aspley) but 20 team league likely.
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The AFL will wait until after its grand final before unveiling details of the remodelled VFL for 2021.The league sent licence offers to clubs last Friday and with them a request to hold off on making any major announcements.
The clubs must now confirm their participation in a competition that will take in clubs from Victoria, NSW and Queensland.
But the AFL confirmed yesterday that all the Victorian stand-alone clubs had been offered licences, including the Northern Bullants, who had been aligned with Carlton as the Northern Blues.
The AFL also confirmed that NEAFL affiliates Brisbane, Gold Coast, Sydney, GWS, Southport, Aspley and Sydney University had been invited to a competition that will be the largest second-tier league in the country.
Up to 20 clubs could participitate: the AFL stand-alones, VFL stand-alones, AFL-VFL aligned and former NEAFL clubs.
Salary caps have been ticked off: $100,000 for the AFL stand-alone and aligned clubs, and $200,000 for the other stand-alone clubs.
A name change remains a possibility given that three states will be represented in the league.
In its communication to clubs the AFL is referring to it as the “VFL/East Coast Competition’’.
It’s believed the competition will run for 16 rounds and kick off in mid to late-April, depending on COVID-19 restrictions.
Officials will try to limit travel to two to three trips per clubs, with teams preferably flying in and flying out on the same day.
Meanwhile the zones proposed by the AFL for the Victorian clubs are likely to be tweaked before they are introduced.
They are seen as a way of strengthening the clubs’ ties with the NAB League teams and promoting the pathway between the under-age league and the VFL.
you knew this was andrew demitrious plan? lolThere’s a similar perspective in the SANFL, an arrogance that the whole comp should bend and bow to every whim or need of both AFL reserves teams and squealing when they don’t get their way.
There is no sustainable financial model without the AFL. Plus no local clubs would want to join - too risky. There are enough clubs already, except that Casey and Box Hill are ghost clubs that would fold overnight without their AFL partners.Wish the stand alone VFA sides had gone out on their own and invited a few strong local clubs to form a new state league.
Of course there’s not, AFL working to an antiquated neo Liberal trickle down model that doesn’t trickle down. It’s all about glad handing and looking after their own. They’ve ****ed the code for decadesThere is no sustainable financial model without the AFL. Plus no local clubs would want to join - too risky. There are enough clubs already, except that Casey and Box Hill are ghost clubs that would fold overnight without their AFL partners.
it took them 3-4 decades to do it but the AFL finally made sure that they run the sport.The worst thing to happen to footy in general was the AFL electing themselves as the “custodians of the game“ and making every decision wholly about themselves. It’s arse about, all State bodies should’ve been on a national commission that ultimately oversaw the game at all levels.
Classic capitalist trickle down bullshit that never seems to trickle past the self interest of the few.
Next step is to merge SANFL with the our VFL.
again.... This was decades in the making.Of course there’s not, AFL working to an antiquated neo Liberal trickle down model that doesn’t trickle down. It’s all about glad handing and looking after their own. They’ve f’ed the code for decades
Does this help the SANFL?I think we will see the three second teir comps under the one umbrella including match payments and rules but the three play amongst themselves. Similar model to Basketball I think?
I don't really see what merging the VFL and NEAFL will achieve.
There are quite a few local clubs In Vic that are more than capable of operating in a state/ premier league with a salary cap of up to 300k (to pluck a number). They’ve been doing it In their local leagues for years.There is no sustainable financial model without the AFL. Plus no local clubs would want to join - too risky. There are enough clubs already, except that Casey and Box Hill are ghost clubs that would fold overnight without their AFL partners.
Naive to think that clubs will adhere to new salary caps when plenty weren't even playing by the old onesThere are quite a few local clubs In Vic that are more than capable of operating in a state/ premier league with a salary cap of up to 300k (to pluck a number). They’ve been doing it In their local leagues for years.
The only reason the existing or proposed model is not viable (or barely) for stand alone clubs is the involvement of the AFL.
Remove the AFL reserves involvement and running costs are not too different to a local league.
Some of the more powerful local clubs are going to have more money than you can poke a stick at in their accounts in three or four years, with the new salary caps of 150k.
Won’t be long before they are going to start making noise about not being able to use their financial strength to advantage.
Victoria is going to need a premier league.
Agree 100%. Even more so when the top division caps are set so low.Naive to think that clubs will adhere to new salary caps when plenty weren't even playing by the old ones
Why would a local club forgo the long standing local rivalries in their league? Why would their members want to travel two, three, four times as far. Suburban leagues have reserves and juniors, they mean more to more people than most VFL clubs do. Some play in front of bigger than VFL crowds. Why would you give all that away?There are quite a few local clubs In Vic that are more than capable of operating in a state/ premier league with a salary cap of up to 300k (to pluck a number). They’ve been doing it In their local leagues for years.
The only reason the existing or proposed model is not viable (or barely) for stand alone Vic clubs is the involvement of the AFL.
Remove the AFL reserves involvement and running costs are not too different to a local league.
Some of the more powerful local clubs are going to have more money than you can poke a stick at in their accounts in three or four years, with the new salary caps of 100-150k.
Won’t be long before they are going to start making noise about not being able to use their financial strength to advantage.
Victoria is going to need a premier league.
it took them 3-4 decades to do it but the AFL finally made sure that they run the sport.
AFL holds the power and most importantly the money. No Australian rules football league pulls in over a billion in tv rights money.
The AFL had their personal agenda and has no intention to work with either the SANFL or WAFL.
The AFL used to fund grassroots footy in the northern country areas of WA. Not anymore. They see the western Australian football commission, the group that owns the eagles and dockers licenses as the enemy.
SANFL clubs are independent but rely on pokies to make ends meet and make money.
AFL have shown how badly run they are. Back in the 1980s and 1990s, it's was about the tickets sales that made the money.
From 2000ish onwards when Foxtel won some rights for the AFL tv rights, the AFL has become more dependent on tv rights money.
I have said this before. Had the AFL saved up 10% of the tv rights money the have made in the last 10 years, that spare cash wouldn't of solved the cash flow shortage of the TV rights money in 2020 but definately would of softened the problem.
Also, each year the SANFL only gets 1 million from the AFL. Footy in Queensland and NSW got 50 million each in 2019.
Sure, I am keen for Aussie rules to grow in Queensland and NSW, but SA and WA and tassie deserves some AFL
Why wouldn’t this league have res and 19s?Why would a local club forgo the long standing local rivalries in their league? Why would their members want to travel two, three, four times as far. Suburban leagues have reserves and juniors, they mean more to more people than most VFL clubs do. Some play in front of bigger than VFL crowds. Why would you give all that away?
And the player list rules forcing the clubs to have a majority of kids so they can’t recruit too many mature players in their prime.I have heard that the salary cap will be $200 k in this new comp. Good luck to the heavyweight clubs being able to get quality players that will help them win a premiership. Local footy will be able to offer better money therefore depleting the talent and standard of the comp. Going to be very hard for mighty Port Melbourne and that other club across the bay to see on field success.
Well its funny isnt it?Interesting- 50 million to NSW and Queensland yet they claimed in 2017 that the 1 million expenditure to run the VFL development league was too much and not feasible therefore scrapped the comp despite the crying and pleading from the traditional VFA clubs.
And the player list rules forcing the clubs to have a majority of kids so they can’t recruit too many mature players in their prime.
I have never understood the AFL approach to the second teir competitions. I understand we need the development opportunities but plenty of that exists in different forms. It feels like their is a constant fight from the AFL to keep those leagues from being the best they can.
For example if I am a 25 year old who is good enough for VFL/SANFL but not AFL and prepared to put in the time and effort to play in a semi pro comp and be reimbursed for it why is that a bad thing? It feels like they are constantly doing what they can to keep those types of player out and push them down to community football.
Contrary to popular belief in South Australia for example there is a big drop from SANFL to a Amateurs or Country football.
Good young players who perhaps are not drafted straight out of the under 18s will always come through and probably have a better experience in those second tier comps.
I just don't get what scares the AFL so much about the mature age cohort of players and semi professional footballer.