Scandal Vickery and King: Victoria Police investigating AFL players over extortion, threats to kill & injure

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There's a lot smarter ways to sober a person up as to the reality of their obligations than issuing death threats over the phone.

I strongly suspect the cops have audio of the event and this will be an open/shut pinch, unless King can adequately explain himself. If they could tie it to Vickery then he would have been charged on the spot as well.

I guess King has taken the fall otherwise Vickery would've been charged with conspiracy at the very least.

The code of silence has kicked in, and one would expect no less of Jakey.
 

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Someone steals $100k from you and the cops tell you they dont care.

You keep calm and composed?
In theory.

However, you have just blown 100 grand chasing 100 grand, with no guarantees of getting your money back or your costs awarded by the court..

Considering the very real alternative if you don't remain 'calm and composed' is hiring a standover man and threatening your 500k contract and future career as a lawyer...

About 18 hours ago as Vickery was being questioned that was a very real possibility. Thankfully it looks like King has just gone over the line himself.

But absolutely yes when there is so much on the line if you do things the 'illegal way', I'd think anyone who doesn't keep calm is incredibly stupid.
 
Hasnt been paid back and refuses to pay back. And why was it taken anyway?

So you are owed $100k and the guy refuses to pay.

You keep calm and composed after the cops tell you to go away?

You would assume a bloke studying for a law degree would choose the civil court path, rather than a Bikie mates standover tactics

I mean take a deep breath and have a think about where it will lead to.

1) Get a court order to appear before a magistrate

2) Get Ol mate Tobes to threaten to kill him etc.
 
Considering the very real alternative if you don't remain 'calm and composed' is hiring a standover man and threatening your 500k contract and future career as a lawyer.

About 18 hours ago as Vickery was being questioned that was a very real possibility. Thankfully it looks like King has just gone over the line himself.

But absolutely yes when there is so much on the line if you do things the 'illegal way', I'd think anyone who doesn't keep calm is incredibly stupid.

Way to oversensationalise the issue. Have you considered a career with the Herald - Sun?

1) If Vickery has "hired" anyone, then he would have been charged.
2) The entire world does things the "illegal" way to some extent. Christ, the business world would implode if everyone involved were to strictly follow the rule book.
 
Way to oversensationalise the issue. Have you considered a career with the Herald - Sun?

1) If Vickery has "hired" anyone, then he would have been charged.
2) The entire world does things the "illegal" way to some extent. Christ, the business world would implode if everyone involved were to strictly follow the rule book.

Way to have 0 reading comprehension ability.
 
Are there any smarts left at RFC now that this Brains Trust has departed them?
 

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I just saw a post on Facebook Jake King made about being discriminated against, in which he said he was a caring and loyal person... which is probably true, people who have shady ties usually are really loyal, I knew a family like that for a long time, the Dad ended up killing a guy last year.

Obviously Vickery is an idiot and Jake King has gone all out to help his old-mate, these threatening tactics would most likely work a lot in his line of trade, but he's probably gone up against a businessy type who hadn't done anything technically illegal.... what a bunch of idiots, this is like something out of Fargo....
Honestly, the guy has saved himself any trouble for now because he's obviously gone to the police about the situation with Jake King, but don't think for one moment that who ever King works with won't seek retribution, it's the way the game works, especially when we're talking about snitching to the police, and I know the man was technically doing the right thing but in no way is it over, especially now when he's gotten the police involved as it simply makes the situation far far worse.
 
IMO the right thing to do is to start off with a decent lawyer.

There are debt recovery services out there that do specialise in this stuff and won't get you locked up (i.e.: they are staffed by lawyers rather than thugs with baseball bats) but speaking from my own personal experience of two such lawyers, they are as dumb as dogpoo and probably bottom of the legal food chain.

My tip would be to:

(1) Use a decent general lawyer

(2) Don't spend a lot of time and money on it ($hundreds). At most get them to draft a letter of demand.

(3) If you want to pursue it further then get them to refer you to a decent Barrister (this is where I found the debt collection agencies helpful)

(4) Brief your Barrister on the facts. The key questions to ask are:

(A) What are my chances of success if this goes to court?
(B) What will it cost me if this goes to court and I win/lose?
(C) Worst case, how long would this take to get resolved?
(D) What courses of action might the other party take and what is their case?
(E) What should I do next time to either prevent this happening or to cover my backside better?

(5) Based on (A), (B), (C), (D) consider if it really is worth following up. Often writing the money off as the cost of a learning experience (E) is truly the best option.

(6) Whatever course you take, move on. Take all emotion out of it, it's a business decision. I've been lucky myself, but I do know of someone who spent many years embroiled in legal cases over this kind of thing. She's chasing a fair sack of cash (my guess is for around a $million + costs), but it long ago passed the point where she'll be behind even if she gets paid out in full. (Stress over years + health issues + loss of income issues)
The law won't and can't do s**t, big woop a few letters, in the bin they go, police can't get involved, by the time it gets to a civil court with lawyer fees etc there is no way to guarantee Vickery would get his money back and he's already lost further thousands of dollars taking it to court. The system is a joke and needs changing, there's a reason why stand over men exist in this world and it's because our law does nothing to help in these types of situations.
 
Hawthorn culcha. Already turning an upstanding citizen studying law into a criminal.
I think you might find that king & vickery are from richmond...
 
In all reality Vickery has probably told King what is going on who has taken it upon himself to help a mate out. Stand over tactics are common in the underworld and they don't text or leave an evidence trail other than maybe a burned out car etc. Poor old Jake was dumb and that should not surprise anyone given his background. I have been told that its amazing he has made it this far given his family enviornment.
 

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