The Law VicPol caught falsifying breath tests

[CheapCharlie]

If you say so.

I think KPIs are fine
A useful tool used in conjunction with others

Police should have done their job. Not up to individual officers to decide what KPIs they will adhere to and which they wont

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

The combustion engine.

Not sustainable so no integrity

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

Any organisation which resorts to the use of the term, 'KPI' has already lost the battle. .

What do you think are the KPI at a bordello?

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

Imagine if all new cars were fitted with a breath test device. How many police could we free up?

 

[Procrastinator35]

Not sustainable so no integrity

Say what?....As soon as the combustion engine loses it's integrity, then your engine won't work.....The very nature of the combustion engine is it's full reliance upon an integral system in order to work at all.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

It can't work without oil and oil is not sustainable

No integrity

 

[Procrastinator35]

It can't work without oil and oil is not sustainable

No integrity

Well I guess the Earth is doomed to smash into the sun too.

Next time stipulate infinity as your clause.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

Next time stipulate infinity as your clause.

Sorry but I thought sustainable covered it

 

[Leeda]

To meet targets so they could get the sweet, sweet TAC cash.

never thought that they were essentially bribed and this is why it has gone pear shaped..

it is corruption at a high level and shunting the blame or blaming the shunt ain't gonna work..

 

[Snake_Baker]

 

[Lebbo73]

Imagine if all new cars were fitted with a breath test device. How many police could we free up?

You would get your kid to blow into it

 

[Procrastinator35]

Sorry but I thought sustainable covered it

My human organism - otherwise known as my body - is sustainable......Up to a point.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

You would get your kid to blow into it

This means you take your kids to the pub with you and drink drive with them.

Lol

 

[Benny78]

Great news imo. This means they have less time for speculative drug testing and will be doing more breathos on major roads in the middle of the day to genuinely meet quotas.

 

[Procrastinator35]

So only 1.5 per cent were falsified, that surprises me by the integrity actually
In an age where every country unit is asked to provide 50 tests a shift. Try finding 50 moving vehicles on an arvo shift in Mitiamo, Newstead, Daylesford; and then attempt not to pull over the same motorists 20 times for the week without pissing them off. Maybe city policing doesn't work in the country.

You'll be waiting a looooooooooooong time for 50 vehicles in Mitiamo my friend.

 

[Bombermania]

Not sure why anyone is surprised, people get this romantic idea that public servants don't bend the rules to achieve their KPI's yet are quick to believe the worst when it comes to bankers or sales people playing similar games to achieve targets.

 

[Bombermania]

“As disappointing as this is, it should be noted that, at this stage in the investigation, there is no evidence to suggest fraud or any criminality has occurred. Similarly, there is nothing to suggest that any of this activity has impacted on any prosecutions.”

So is rigging the figures to lead to lets say extra funding not fraud?
All quotas for government authorities whether it be parking ticket issuances or this issue has financial implications . Dont make quota get less funding?

Yet if an agency or department does actually achieve its targets and performs in an effective manner, instead of being rewarded with extra funding, the government of the day will just see it as an opportunity to reduce spending.

 

[Bombermania]

It's systematic corruption that highlights the entrenched selectivity and evidence tampering practices of a body that is sworn to uphold the integrity of the law.

There's nothing trivial about it at all.

Corruption is the wrong word, surely people know the difference between corruption and fraud or lying.

 

[Bombermania]

That's corruption
They have been falsifying what you call a shitty KPI
In reality the KPI is not shitty at all, but an indicator of enforcement of drink driving compliance
Every breath test they falsify is one more breath test they have not actually performed on a random motorist

That isn't corruption, for it too be corruption, the officers would have accepted payment by a motorist to not bother with the test or something similar, what this case relates to is falsifying KPI results.

 

[CheapCharlie]

That isn't corruption, for it too be corruption, the officers would have accepted payment by a motorist to not bother with the test or something similar, what this case relates to is falsifying KPI results.

Call it fraud if you prefer
Still a form of corruption

 

[Bombermania]

Call it fraud if you prefer
Still a form of corruption

There would be virtually no one who at some time hasn't fudged their KPI's.

This is an unintended consequence of the focus on performance management benchmarks.

It shows the problem with how our politicians and media have dumped the political debate down to such a level that police even need to fake cases.

 

[CheapCharlie]

There would be virtually no one who at some time hasn't fudged their KPI's.

This is an unintended consequence of the focus on performance management benchmarks.

It shows the problem with how our politicians and media have dumped the political debate down to such a level that police even need to fake cases.

I agree with your third paragraph

But, this case isn't just fudging a few breath tests
The tests the Police are not conducting could be letting a drunk driver slip by who goes on to seriously injure or kill someone in an accident
There is no pretty way to dress it up

 

[Bombermania]

I agree with your third paragraph

But, this case isn't just fudging a few breath tests
The tests the Police are not conducting could be letting a drunk driver slip by who goes on to seriously injure or kill someone in an accident
There is no pretty way to dress it up

Not necessarily, they could be back in the cop station or be heading back to the station and take the opportunity to carry out a few tests, they apparently did this by blowing into the machine or simply holding their fingers over the straw.

If as you say they have missed a drunk then that would be a serious issue, not to say these false tests are not as it brings into question the previous performance benchmark results.

 

[CheapCharlie]

Not necessarily, they could be back in the cop station or be heading back to the station and take the opportunity to carry out a few tests, they apparently did this by blowing into the machine or simply holding their fingers over the straw.

If as you say they have missed a drunk then that would be a serious issue, not to say these false tests are not as it brings into question the previous performance benchmark results.

The scenario is they are doing less tests
Under the number they are asked and paid to do
Doesn't matter when they are blowing in the device
If they blow in the device a combined 100,000 times thats 100,000 less tests actually performed

 

[SaintsSeptember]

This means you take your kids to the pub with you and drink drive with them.

Lol

You leave them locked in the car while you're in there.