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It’s a job where you get shot at. So where do you start with that. Health and safety ?
99.99999999% of the time, this is not correct
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It’s a job where you get shot at. So where do you start with that. Health and safety ?
This may be because of a select few by assessing from action however it is cultural meaning the issue is widespread
Add up all the issues rather than just looking at one and we will see a deep problem
99.99999999% of the time, this is not correct
The vast, vast majority of roles within the australian defence force in this day and age do not involve getting shot at (with the SAS being an obvious exception).
Lol! Thank you to the SAS for protecting us from Afghani villagers. Where would we be without them?Don't tear down an entire group because of a select few.
That's a piss poor thing to say about the people that put their lives on the line for our country.
Punish and say what you want about those committing terrible acts.
Its what you sign up for. What percentage for rape and murder while your at it ?
When I post Military on this forum the point I'm trying is no army, no government, no press has ever been any different, any better or any less worse. Nobody is always right or always wrong, never only one set of good guys and one set of guys.
I lived in area where before colonisation, the culture there, the surrounding cultures used a word in thier language to describe them, that meant assassins. Yet that culture got brutally destroyed by British invasion, and then the land got it as well. But, if that culture was named assassins by its neighbours, who did they at some point in thier history commit war crimes, that's what got them thier name, assassins.
One is part of the job and the other is an act of one’s own folly
Being ex military I have sympathy for those on the front line making quick life and death decisions. Sometimes right, sometimes wrong.
What I have zero tolerance for is s**t management and culture. This is why I recommend charges all the way to the PM, via the defence minister, the DG etc. Obviously not murder charges but the same charges a civilian director would encounter for not having controls to mitigate this risk. Specifically culture.
That all they fight is it? Just the villagers? Never anyone else? Not surprised you'd miss the point.Lol! Thank you to the SAS for protecting us from Afghani villagers. Where would we be without them?
Oh Lord.
Yep
And I’ll add, even good guys get nasty when they fear death, endure hardship or see their mates of family dying.
Toilet paper multiplied by 10,000!
That’s why I’m sympathetic to those at the front
However, since the advent of the Internet, we're now in the age of information. Any man or woman who volunteers to go fight in what are oil or opium ward, can't claim ignorance. Hundreds of thousands of people protested last decade about these wars. Many media outlets around the world printed the facts, Assange provided a smoking gun about these wars. Today's vets are not the same as those 19 year old sent to nam against thier will.
I''m not into walloping people especially those who are in the middle of the crisis... I prefer to interrogate the people who are often digested and spat
out when they are perhaps more innocent than most of do the wrong thing..
I am a fair and equitable employer... I like to see all sides of the spectrum..
so help me god.. we need you now...
very nice dude but you are being catastrophic in you r will and we don't applaud rejection by obvious sarcasm.. get on it.. watchingGod can't help you. I think you need to pray to Scomo.
Our Father, which art in parliament,
Scomo be thy Name.
Thy Kingdom come.
Thy will be done in earth,
As it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily toilet paper.
And forgive us our trespasses at Coles,
As we forgive them that trespass against us.
And lead us not into panic buying,
But deliver us from coronavirus.
For thine is the kingdom, The power, and the glory,
Until the next election.
Amen
Maybe this should put to an end the string of ex army officers being thrown up in Vice Regal roles. If they couldn't stop their troops behaving like this they're hardly people who should be held up as exemplary.
And the Militarising of a football game that just happens to fall on ANZAC dayMaybe this should put to an end the string of ex army officers being thrown up in Vice Regal roles. If they couldn't stop their troops behaving like this they're hardly people who should be held up as exemplary.
However, since the advent of the Internet, we're now in the age of information. Any man or woman who volunteers to go fight in what are oil or opium ward, can't claim ignorance. Hundreds of thousands of people protested last decade about these wars. Many media outlets around the world printed the facts, Assange provided a smoking gun about these wars. Today's vets are not the same as those 19 year old sent to nam against thier will.
And the Militarising of a football game that just happens to fall on ANZAC day
Why do we need to have Military types carrying weapons of death on the MCG before a footy game?
Most that I knew had nothing more to offer society so they joined the military.Too true.
The ones whom I knew from high school who joined up to the combat units weren’t about “freedom” or “service” or the “Anzac spirit”.
As they openly said they wanted to “shoot c**ts” and“blow s**t the f**k up” legally. They were all violent bullies in school so no surprises there. They even bragged about going to the Middle East and “capping towel heads”.
The ones who joined non combatant roles? Either wanted free trade and technical training, a steady job, or they were bored. Again none of them because of “service” or “sacrifice” or whatever DFR brainwashes you with. It’s mostly a decision on the dollar.
Too true.
The ones whom I knew from high school who joined up to the combat units weren’t about “freedom” or “service” or the “Anzac spirit”.
As they openly said they wanted to “shoot c**ts” and“blow s**t the f**k up” legally. They were all violent bullies in school so no surprises there. They even bragged about going to the Middle East and “capping towel heads”.
The ones who joined non combatant roles? Either wanted free trade and technical training, a steady job, or they were bored. Again none of them because of “service” or “sacrifice” or whatever DFR brainwashes you with. It’s mostly a decision on the dollar.
When I joined in 92 I was thinking about chicks and 35% unemployment for young adult males.
The Cold War was over, no terrorism on the horizon just a genocide in Africa, some turmoil in SEAsia, remnants of the first Iraq war, Fiji and the finishing off with East Timor.
The one thing I learnt during this time is jobs cease hostilities where hostilities are prolonged through conflict.
I have ex soldiers and ex abu Sayyaf fighters working together in the Philippines, returning to normal family life. Perhaps our government can learn from this, given they taught this to our military in the 90s.
I nearly Joined at the same time. Youth unemployment 57 percent where I was. Dad a national servicemen in the early fifties, granddad's who both served on the western front in the war to end all wars but just started worse ones. I was looking at a trade but also special forces caught my eye. I ordered in a rambo knife in 1985 and wanted to be like him, lived in the country and had good gun skills.
It wasn't until 2008 after working for dva transporting elderly veterans and hearing thier stories and wisdom, did my view really change.
Even our peace keepers in Rwanda were doing the same as now. That war was about rare earth's nasa and Bill Gates needed for thier technology.