Society/Culture Victoria Cross winner Ben Roberts-Smith - Allegations of war crimes

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Schneebly11

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Trespass and theft as well as perjury. She is quite the catch !
I guess with her ex looking at facing murder charges they are a match for each other.

This case is separate to the defamation case he has launched against 9 (the one in which 21 of his former SAS colleagues will testify against him), and the current investigation by the AFP for war crimes.
 

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I’ve just finished it too.

What struck me was the fact all of those who blew the whistle (and were interviewed for the book) have suffered irreparable mental or physical damage which will stay with them for life. A virtual life sentence if you will.

Whilst those who perpetrated the acts seem less likely to be held to account with every passing day. Now they have strong backing in some media circles to win their PR battle and hope the government quietly drop investigations.

Spoiler Alert - what shocked me was the book contains details of a meeting between the author and a soldier accused of war crimes. I didn’t expect any of them would be willing to talk, but one did. I won’t reveal details of what was said, but it gave a great insight into what was running through the heads of those perpetrating these acts.

Probably the best Australian book I’ve read in years, reveals far more background info than what’s been reported in the media.
Do you think that the Australian government tries to protect negative military stories being published much more than other countries in this position?

We seem to try and hold the military forces at a very high level in terms of culture and respect.
 

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Schneebly11

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Do you think that the Australian government tries to protect negative military stories being published much more than other countries in this position?

We seem to try and hold the military forces at a very high level in terms of culture and respect.
Yeah.

It was the ADF that wanted to strip the Meritorious Unit Citation from the SOTG. It was Dutton who overruled that after an intensive campaign led by Murdoch media and Channel 7.

There’s an active pressure campaign to deflect, downplay and ultimately bury the Brereton Inquiry and any possible criminal trials. It’s being carried out by several media organisations and political figures and lobbyists who have a vested interest in keeping the truth hidden.

A lot of populist media love to portray our diggers as infallible heroes, the facts don’t exactly match this so they need to be kept quiet. The Daily Mail, Channel 7 and News Corp got caught out with this last week when they ran those articles implying all the accused soldiers were “exonerated” as their employment show cause notices were withdrawn, whereas the truth was this was mostly due to them resigning from the military, and they are all under active criminal investigation by the AFP.

A lot of ex-SF have made a lucrative career out of public speaking and promotions, video footage of their colleagues executing civilians destroys their image so they need attack the Brereton Inquiry to protect their business model. Heston Russell, an ex Commando who does promotional speaking, has even posted pics on his social media showing people doing an incredibly childish thing, hiding copies of Mark Willacy’s book “Rogue Forces” in bookstores.

And the government needs to portray our heroes as perfect again to convince another generation of kids to enlist. Education Minister Alan Tudge went on Triple J’s Hack program and bemoaned the fact the curriculum isn’t 100% pro-digger. He basically wanted no negative material about the Australian military or Anzac Day to be taught in schools.

There are powerful vested interests who want this war crimes inquiry to fail.

EDIT:

Funny I should mention Heston Russell, as look who has just been exposed today as running a scam charity to fund a political career boosted by his mates on Sky News:

 
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Do you think that the Australian government tries to protect negative military stories being published much more than other countries in this position?

We seem to try and hold the military forces at a very high level in terms of culture and respect.
America
 

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Unconfirmed reports out of Afghanistan tonight that the Chinese have reactivated Bagram for the Taliban.

Denied last week, but there was an Indian newspaper report last month saying that an agreement had been reached for them to do so (again denied).

We'll see what comes out in the next couple of days.
 

Schneebly11

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Unconfirmed reports out of Afghanistan tonight that the Chinese have reactivated Bagram for the Taliban.

Denied last week, but there was an Indian newspaper report last month saying that an agreement had been reached for them to do so (again denied).

We'll see what comes out in the next couple of days.
Contradicted:


The report was a Daily Mail article of some social media posts about the lights being turned on at Bagram, which then somehow was speculated into Chinese military aircraft arriving there.

Even if it was true it’s pretty obvious why.

China actually seems to deliver promptly on their infrastructure projects. The Western forces didn’t, their attempts to build infrastructure were mired in corruption, kickbacks to contractors, delays, lack of willpower to finish project, and no emphasis on infrastructure to help transition Afghanistan’s economy to the modern world.

Added to that the fact it’s hard to maintain infrastructure when it’ll be bombed from the air or blown up by western forces on the ground.

The Afghans would love to have modern highways, railways, telecommunications infrastructure linking them to the world’s biggest economy they share a border with don’t you reckon? Maybe sell all those mineral resources. It’ll be mining boom 2.0.

EDIT: There’s also suggestions it could be Chinese foreign aid being given to their neighbour.
 
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