Victoria Election - 29 November 2014

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I heard that the Ambulance Union deliberately rejected any offer Napthine made, so that the dispute can carry on the State Election, they would back Labor, and then get Labor to roll over and give them even more money while they line their pockets. All the while, putting lives at risk.

I have lost a lot of respect for ambos over this. I thought you did the job to help save lives, but it smacks that some are in it to be greedy and make money off dying patients.
Thats a load of crap. If you ever think Ambos blackmail and put lives in balance you deserve to believe that the tunnel was cost effective.
 

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Generational change, def a much younger group coming in, that is the problem with the Lib federally. Too old, and still stuck in the past.
Really looking forward to the next 4 years , hope they deliver.
O'Brien to replace Naphine?
Big losers were the Nationals for mine, maybe the Greens will replace them in time in Victoria?
 

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LDP voters would definitely be the most interesting combination of people. From Meds, to Smithy to Evo there's a few different types.
Indeed.

The loose association of LDP supporters at Monash are largely libertarian in an ideologically consistent way, but many of the broader sypathisers have taken to the LDP as a kind of loon bag Tea Party style org. If the LDP aim at appeasement they could broaden their base, but not stay true to core values. It might attract some of the Christian right but long term would spell the death of a genuine libertarian alternative in Aus.

If they strengthen ties with the sex party, they may alienate some of the public support but could form a genuine libertarian party consistent socially and economically. Which would be an interesting change because their aren't too many that I can think of. The US libertarians are entrenched in the right, with strong religious overtones, whereas the British equivalent is overtly nationalist. I am unsure about all of the Euroskeptic parties, some are broadly libertarian, many nationalist right
I heard that the Ambulance Union deliberately rejected any offer Napthine made, so that the dispute can carry on the State Election, they would back Labor, and then get Labor to roll over and give them even more money while they line their pockets. All the while, putting lives at risk.

I have lost a lot of respect for ambos over this. I thought you did the job to help save lives, but it smacks that some are in it to be greedy and make money off dying patients.
Or you just made that up
 

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I heard that the Ambulance Union deliberately rejected any offer Napthine made, so that the dispute can carry on the State Election, they would back Labor, and then get Labor to roll over and give them even more money while they line their pockets. All the while, putting lives at risk.

I have lost a lot of respect for ambos over this. I thought you did the job to help save lives, but it smacks that some are in it to be greedy and make money off dying patients.
What a crock of shit!
 
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I heard that the Ambulance Union deliberately rejected any offer Napthine made, so that the dispute can carry on the State Election, they would back Labor, and then get Labor to roll over and give them even more money while they line their pockets. All the while, putting lives at risk.

I have lost a lot of respect for ambos over this. I thought you did the job to help save lives, but it smacks that some are in it to be greedy and make money off dying patients.

I bet you heard that from the libs right after they pulled a little stunt a couple of weeks back
 
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Generational change, def a much younger group coming in, that is the problem with the Lib federally. Too old, and still stuck in the past.
Really looking forward to the next 4 years , hope they deliver.
O'Brien to replace Naphine?
Big losers were the Nationals for mine, maybe the Greens will replace them in time in Victoria?
If we need to do 50 grade separations in two terms, better turn up to work ready to go on monday
 

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Ambos are commie terrorists, no respect for first responders
I just hope they get to me on time when the big event happens....thought it was going to be in the last 5 minutes V Dons but then nekminit it could have been the last 5 mins v Cats....only to have the Swans break my heart at the Prelim the week later....:cry:
 

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I just hope they get to me on time when the big event happens....thought it was going to be in the last 5 minutes V Dons but then nekminit it could have been the last 5 mins v Cats....only to have the Swans break my heart at the Prelim the week later....:cry:
Yeah, it's a crazy thing to wage a war on

Few things more valued than the fire and emergency services. Smear the ambos and you look like a mean spirited, reptilian pos.

I think nurses, ambos and fireman are more broadly seen as critical yet mistreated, it's hard to justify bullying those seen as working selfless proffessions, the peeps who may save a life or have their own risked
 

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Yeah, it's a crazy thing to wage a war on

Few things more valued than the fire and emergency services. Smear the ambos and you look like a mean spirited, reptilian pos.

I think nurses, ambos and fireman are more broadly seen as critical yet mistreated, it's hard to justify bullying those seen as working selfless proffessions, the peeps who may save a life or have their own risked
And the shit thing is that they are increasingly on the end of some campaigners punch.
 

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Yeah, it's a crazy thing to wage a war on

Few things more valued than the fire and emergency services. Smear the ambos and you look like a mean spirited, reptilian pos.

I think nurses, ambos and fireman are more broadly seen as critical yet mistreated, it's hard to justify bullying those seen as working selfless proffessions, the peeps who may save a life or have their own risked
I love how they're being casted as nasty unions who now control the Labor party.

The Libs are desperately out of touch if they think that card is going to work.
 

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I heard that the Ambulance Union deliberately rejected any offer Napthine made, so that the dispute can carry on the State Election, they would back Labor, and then get Labor to roll over and give them even more money while they line their pockets. All the while, putting lives at risk.

I have lost a lot of respect for ambos over this. I thought you did the job to help save lives, but it smacks that some are in it to be greedy and make money off dying patients.
Didju, didju hear that? Were you smoking some crack at the time old chap?

Yes, that sounds very realistic. Workers and a hopeful opposition worked out a plan of reduced wages in the hope that Labor would win, hide the costings and hoped none of it leaked.

 

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Seeing how people vote, reading letters in papers where people complain about their first world problems, and how people are never happy no matter which party is in government, or are ever thankful for even one thing they do, I have decided to look at things from a different perspective from now on.

You see, I believed in the principle that JFK had of "Don't ask what your country would do for you, but what you can do for your country". I used to see society as everyone helping out and doing their bit, making a sacrifice here and there for a common goal- the greater good of society. A strong society meant that everyone was stronger as a result.

I was someone who cared about what was good for the economy, because it not only helped me, but also it provided jobs for others, meant that everyone was in a better position, and had a better and happier life.

But the fact is, people don't vote for the greater good. They vote based on "what is in it for me". We are a selfish society these days, and unless a pollie can give ME what I want, then I won't vote for them.

People's reactions to the budget is a perfect example. Instead of looking at it as getting the economy back into surplus, people whinge about how it affects them personally.

People always bitch about paying more tax. It doesn't matter what it is for, people would rather have everything provided, without paying a cent towards it themselves.

So, since this is how others think, I will now follow suit in my voting decisions from now on. I will focus solely on personal benefit, and not on what is good for Victoria, or Australia. I will be a selfish prick, like most voters seem to be at election time.

So, let's see. I don't see why one cent of my taxes should go towards hospitals and schools. I have never needed to go to hospitals, and I have left school, and have no children, so I shouldn't have to fund everyone else who does.Why should I be punished for remaining healthy and being educated? Maybe, instead of me paying tax, make it user pays. Then I can have more money in my pocket, since I care only about me, like most voters seem to.

Also, I don't give a stuff about climate change. Why should I? I will be long dead before it hits, and if I don't have children, it won't affect them either. How it affects the rest of society is no longer my problem. If that is how people want to vote, so be it.

I also don't care about public transport. Never use it. So I don't care about Andrews' plans in this area. So why should I pay for it?

Hey, if everyone else wants to make it all about themselves before society, then so should I? Hey, at least I am honest about it, not like many, who pretend that they give a stuff about their state or their country, but only when they benefit out of it.

I don't believe society exists anymore. I believe that it is instead a collection of individuals, each catering to their own needs before anyone else's. So that is why politicians can never please us. They try to do what is best for all, instead of what is best for me, me and only me.

Thanks, the voting public, for finally waking me up. This election result and a few others (such as one where we got handed out $900 for no reason) has shown that the individual is all that matters, not the greater society. That is why Labor wins elections. Because they know how to give out money to the self-entitled, instead of the old way of getting it- by working for it. I can now climb in the cesspool with the rest of you, and make it all about me at the next election, whether it screws Victoria, Australia or whomever. Hey, at least I won't be alone.
 
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