Politics Violence against Nazis, acceptable?

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Yeah I do.The kid should cop penalty as should Anning and his goons.It's not just a regular political issue ,it's an insult to the country and unbelievably arrogant , ,measured racism.What sort of reason would you egg the Greens for? Are you gonna egg them because they want to reduce carbon emmisions or egg them for allowing transgender toilets?
I wouldn't mind someone egging you for wanting a police state.
 

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Yes.

Violent leftwing radicalism is almost non-existent. When compared to say anarchist activity in Europe at the beginning of the 20th century, or the environmental and anti-capitalist movements of the 60's and 70's. Likewise, non-violent labour militancy was almost completely extinguished with recent wildcat strikes by various US teachers union memberships, the first sign of a revival. Outside of periodic G20/anti-globalism protests the number of recorded violent incidents per year in many Western nations is fast approaching zero. Literally a small handful per year. Whereas rightwing violence has seen a huge spike and is the dominant form of extremist in most Western and European nations.
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If #eggboy can teach us anything, it's that you always have the right to physically assault anyone who has a differing opinion to you.
lots of facebook mums in my feed have gleefully shared the video (a few of the same agitating for socialism). helps them have a laff after they've already done the whole decry senseless violence before advocating torture or jail rape for the perp thing.
 

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lots of facebook mums in my feed have gleefully shared the video (a few of the same agitating for socialism). helps them have a laff after they've already done the whole decry senseless violence before advocating torture or jail rape for the perp thing.
It wasn't a physical assault, more of a funny prank.They tested eggs on Mythbusters and proved they can't hurt you unless the eggshell has been covered in a radioactive substance.
 

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Didn't he try to run over them? They didn't touch him, they're harmless vegetrian anti-racist protesters at a protest.If this is the best you've got of left wing violence you haven't got much. It's the far right wing white supremacists you have to worry about as we've just seen.
 

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It is false dichotomy. Media are playing into his hands. He will act outrageously to get free time in the media. See: Corey Bernadi's right tack with a playbook taken from Trump's successful primaries and general election campaign. Anning makes further steps in the outrage stakes to get votes for re-election. Starve him of oxygen you silly fools.
Scott Adams book Win Bigly, gives a good insight into the techniques Trump used to win the election.
 

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It is false dichotomy. Media are playing into his hands. He will act outrageously to get free time in the media. See: Corey Bernadi's right tack with a playbook taken from Trump's successful primaries and general election campaign. Anning makes further steps in the outrage stakes to get votes for re-election. Starve him of oxygen you silly fools.
If you watch the video of the egging, while the kid has been dragged down, if you look at Anning, he is smiling. This suits him right down to the ground.

The shooter wants to start a race war, he explicitly said so. Muslim extremists want to start a religious war. The objective of the attack was to provoke a retaliatory attack and inflame opinion.

The irony is, Islamic extremists and white supremacists are more like each other than they are moderates from their own community.

In that sense, the egging is playing into their hands, however, I am not sure advocating a non violent reaction will help.

Straight out of the Nazi playbook is, escalate. Anning got away with putting a final solution reference in Hansard. He got away with attending a rally organised by an overt admirer of Hitler. He has moved the bar on what the alt right sees as possible, and what the establishment will tolerate.

He is going to try to move it further, and he is not going to voluntarily stop.

If people have ever wondered how a political movement like the Nazis got established in a western country, this is how. Violence and rhetoric, force the establishment to accommodate. Then repeat. A decade or 2 down the track, what was inconceivable has become normal.

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Yes, you have kill the roots of the plant,if they want a fight ,then sure beat them up and send them back to mummy.
What egg boy can teach us is that protesting against a right wing politician with an egg is a more notorious and newsworthy act than killing 50 Muslims.

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I have to disagree with you, but could the bigger hysteria be around egg boy as it occurred in this country rather than something that occurred in a different country, even though that incident was no doubt 100 times worse?
 

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Incorrect. "Christchurch shooting" yeilds 136,000,000 search results, to "Fred Anning Egg"s 109k.



Unfortunately I have to disagree. There's enough evidence online of far left groups assaulting people for me to ever believe a statistic saying it's a "non event". There's plenty of people in this very thread that have said they'd be happy to assault people over their right wing beliefs. I'm sure many have.
I am saying within Australia, the egging had produced the sort of response the shooting produced, not world wide. Outside Australia, the egging is a curiosity, so most of those mentions are Australian mentions, most of the Christchurch ones are not.

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He has moved the bar on what the alt right sees as possible, and what the establishment will tolerate.
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overreach by much?
most, nigh all, don't tolerate the final solution rhetoric, just like they don't endorse the egg thrower, been living in your own echo chamber bubble
 
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I have to disagree with you, but could the bigger hysteria be around egg boy as it occurred in this country rather than something that occurred in a different country, even though that incident was no doubt 100 times worse?
Did you see the report from the US, where a study suggested that to get the sort of media a Muslim extremists gets with 1 murder, a non Muslim needs to kill 7 more people?

Yes, it gets less attention because it's in NZ, but yes, it also gets less attention because the shooter is a white Australian, and it also gets less attention because the victims are Muslim.

A guy saved dozens of lives confronting the gunman, if he had been a white Australian, or a white New Zealander, he would be plastered everywhere, but he isn't, so how many don't even know his name?

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. He has moved the bar on what the alt right sees as possible, and what the establishment will tolerate.[/QUOTE]
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overreach by much?
most don't tolerate the final solution rhetoric, just like they don't endorse the egg thrower, been living in your own echo chamber bubble[/QUOTE]He put a final solution comment in Hansard, and then stood there while government ministers shook his hand. What planet are you from.

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Did you see the report from the US, where a study suggested that to get the sort of media a Muslim extremists gets with 1 murder, a non Muslim needs to kill 7 more people?

Yes, it gets less attention because it's in NZ, but yes, it also gets less attention because the shooter is a white Australian, and it also gets less attention because the victims are Muslim.

A guy saved dozens of lives confronting the gunman, if he had been a white Australian, or a white New Zealander, he would be plastered everywhere, but he isn't, so how many don't even know his name?

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That is an interesting statistic if it is correct.

I don't know if I necessarily agree with all of your post but I haven't really delved that far into it tbh.

i do agree with your comment on the guy saved heaps of lives but we have only heard a fraction about him from the media. That is alarming!
 

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A police state ,what are you talking about. I wonder how many stiches Anning needed and if they did a concussion test.
I've seen more than enough of your posts to understand the extent of your brainwashing. Even your fellow Richmond supporters on the Richmond board were laughing at how badly you want a North Korea-like system.

Didn't he try to run over them?
Nope. Notice how you responded with a rhetorical question, rather than evidence to the contrary.
They didn't touch him, they're harmless vegetrian anti-racist protesters at a protest.If this is the best you've got of left wing violence you haven't got much. It's the far right wing white supremacists you have to worry about as we've just seen.
Hahaha, harmless, oh god. My god the brainwashing has done a number on you.

Believe me sweetheart, there's plenty more where that came from.





Yep, perfectly harmless. These are all just peaceful, vegetarian, anti-racist protesters. They didn't actually commit a single act of violence in any of those videos, they were just spreading love.

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That is an interesting statistic if it is correct.

I don't know if I necessarily agree with all of your post but I haven't really delved that far into it tbh.

i do agree with your comment on the guy saved heaps of lives but we have only heard a fraction about him from the media. That is alarming!
What I also find alarming, a guy in my own footy club posted a piece (not written by him) claiming that there is a conspiracy to downplay Muslim violence, and focus on right wing violence. He counted the number of Muslim extremists attacks worldwide, and compared the lack of coverage of these attacks, to the extensive coverage of Christchurch, and drew the conclusion that it showed Muslims were not allowed to be criticised.

He ignored the fact most of these attacks were in places like Somalia, Iraq, Burkina Faso, and involved mostly small numbers.

Apparently focussing on 50 people gunned down in NZ, and not 2 people stabbed in Afghanistan shows we are all PC stooges, afraid to criticise Muslims, and this is widely believed going on comments.

This is the context of the US report. I didn't see the report, but it was quoted in an interview, in response to the same, why doesn't Muslim terrorism get criticised, commentary. It showed Muslim attacks generate much more media attention, not less.

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I've seen more than enough of your posts to understand the extent of your brainwashing. Even your fellow Richmond supporters on the Richmond board were laughing at how badly you want a North Korea-like system.


Nope. Notice how you responded with a rhetorical question, rather than evidence to the contrary.

Hahaha, harmless, oh god. My god the brainwashing has done a number on you.

Believe me sweetheart, there's plenty more where that came from.





Yep, perfectly harmless. These are all just peaceful, vegetarian, anti-racist protesters. They didn't actually commit a single act of violence in any of those videos, they were just spreading love.

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Lol, antifa are nothing compared to this recent massacre extremism, get some perspective .How awful that there are groups organized to protest agsinst racism.They're doing the dirty work for the good of society to stop stuff like NZ.I have no particular interest in antifa but don't think they're any more than well intentioned but angry teenagers.Better antifa than the true blue crew, at least asians and blacks are allowed to join antifa.Perspective mate, get some.
 

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You know Orwell went overseas to kill fascists?
I already responded to this exact post of yours in a different thread, which you've decided to ignore. I guess you don't like acknowledging the fact that Orwell became disillusioned with people like yourself after being exposed to their true nature first hand.
 

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Lol, antifa are nothing compared to this recent massacre extremism, get some perspective
Hahaha, another mindless claim with not a single shred of evidence. Sorry, you're not persuading anyone.
How awful that there are groups organized to protest agsinst racism.They're doing the dirty work for the good of society to stop stuff like NZ.I have no particular interest in antifa but don't think they're any more than well intentioned but angry teenagers.Better antifa than the true blue crew, at least asians and blacks are allowed to join antifa.Perspective mate, get some.
Of course! There's nothing wrong with the violence they're committing because they're doing it to stop violence! There's nothing better to counter fascism than to enforce a fascist regime of your own huh? Hypocrisy? Who cares about that? We are the right-thinkers!

Honestly mate, you're an embarrassment. There's really no point in having any further discussion because you're exactly the kind of person summarized here:

 

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He was anti communist.

He died a socialist.
I'm willing to bet you haven't read a single one of his books, just his wikipedia page.

Also let me give you the tip: fighting against the Franco regime is a bit different to attacking someone with a different opinion. To people of your ilk though, it's probably all the same. Refer to the Bezmenov video above.
 
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