Politics Violence against Nazis, acceptable?

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Gough

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Ive gone back and forth on this for ovr a decade. But the Trump era settled it for me. Liberalism (small l) is an amazing political philosophy that is woefully incapable of resisting nazism and fascism.

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The GFC combined with a popular black President broke conservative America. In that they saw two of the hallmarks of American Exceptionalism, racism and capitalism as being under attack and they've just disappeared further down that rabbit hole ever since.
 

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Well, a lot of liberals want to defeat them in the marketplace iof ideas.

This flog who appears on Gruen in his feminst t-shirts is willing to platform this campaigner. Im suggesting this is not uncommon.
That's just dorks thinking they're "liberal".

There's no one straight path, but platforming Nazis is definitely out in the weeds.
 

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Malifice

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Ive gone back and forth on this for ovr a decade. But the Trump era settled it for me. Liberalism (small l) is an amazing political philosophy that is woefully incapable of resisting nazism and fascism.

We took them out in WW2 with the help of the Commies.

We'll be right.
 

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And for what it’s worth the USSR was an abomination of a political system and hopefully Hitler and Stalin are pegging each other in hell for eternity.


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With the help of? Bro. It was the USSR that defeated them.


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People underestimate how much stuff they got from the West, and how dependant they were on it.

Almost all their trucks came from the US for instance.

Maybe half their overall war material was donated.

That's significant given the Germans were crushed under a weight of material and men, but we're stilling winning battles against the Russians right up until the end.

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Malifice

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Is this anything official?

Yes.

Nazism - Wikipedia

If you support the existence of discreet groups of scientifically defined races, a hierarchy of the races, a secret plot by 'wealthy financiers', liberals and socialists to undermine Western Culture and silence or control the white man, a Strong reactionary, nationalistic, nativist and militant State, and oppose laws that help LGBTI people, women, ethnic minorities, migrants and the disabled (or even actively seek to persecute them), you're a Nazi.

That's literally exactly what they believed.
 

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the_interloper

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Yes.

Nazism - Wikipedia

If you support the existence of discreet groups of scientifically defined races, a hierarchy of the races, a secret plot by 'wealthy financiers', liberals and socialists to undermine Western Culture and silence or control the white man, a Strong reactionary, nationalistic, nativist and militant State, and oppose laws that help LGBTI people, women, ethnic minorities, migrants and the disabled (or even actively seek to persecute them), you're a Nazi.

That's literally exactly what they believed.

Well firstly you’ve used Wikipedia as a source so not ideal. And secondly did you get your “Nazi questionnaire” from Adolf himself or do you have a specific source for what you came up with?
 

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Well firstly you’ve used Wikipedia as a source so not ideal. And secondly did you get your “Nazi questionnaire” from Adolf himself or do you have a specific source for what you came up with?
What are you actually arguing here?

How do you define a nazi?
 

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We should debate who these people are and whether they are just misunderstood. Perhaps Jordan Petersen or Joe Rogan has a pearl of wisdom about their feelings.

 

Malifice

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Well firstly you’ve used Wikipedia as a source so not ideal. And secondly did you get your “Nazi questionnaire” from Adolf himself or do you have a specific source for what you came up with?

Wut?

You're sounding like someone who is only now finding out you agree with a lot of the same s**t as the Nazis do, and it's troubling you.

But fine, here is another source:

Hitler found this common denominator in the Jewish people, whom he identified with both Bolshevism and a kind of cosmic evil. Jews were to be discriminated against not according to their religion but according to their “race.” Nazism declared Jews—whatever their educational and social achievements—to be forever fundamentally different from and inimical to Germans.
Nazism attempted to reconcile conservative, nationalist ideology with a socially radical doctrine. In so doing, it became a profoundly revolutionary movement—albeit a largely negative one. Rejecting rationalism, liberalism, democracy, the rule of law, human rights, and all movements of international cooperation and peace, it stressed instinct, the subordination of the individual to the state, and the necessity of blind and unswerving obedience to leaders appointed from above.
It also emphasized the inequality of humans and races and the right of the strong to rule the weak; sought to purge or suppress competing political, religious, and social institutions; advanced an ethic of hardness and ferocity; and partly destroyed class distinctions by drawing into the movement misfits and failures from all social classes.

Nazism | Definition, Leaders, Ideology, & History

That covers points 1 through 8

I'll ask you again, which of the 8 points above do you disagree with as being a component of Nazi thought?
 

the_interloper

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Wut?

You're sounding like someone who is only now finding out you agree with a lot of the same s**t as the Nazis do, and it's troubling you.

But fine, here is another source:





Nazism | Definition, Leaders, Ideology, & History

That covers points 1 through 8

I'll ask you again, which of the 8 points above do you disagree with as being a component of Nazi thought?

Yeah I think you’re right, BRB, growing a Hitler moustache and shaving my head!

I did already answer my thoughts on your 8 points a few pages ago, that covers my thoughts. So yes I’m sceptical of your little quiz as being definitive on pinging someone as a Nazi.
 

Malifice

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Yeah I think you’re right, BRB, growing a Hitler moustache and shaving my head!

I did already answer my thoughts on your 8 points a few pages ago, that covers my thoughts. So yes I’m sceptical of your little quiz as being definitive on pinging someone as a Nazi.

For the third time, I'll ask you the question.

Which of the 8 points do you think is not part of Nazi thought?

Please stop obfuscating and answer the question.
 

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