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There's justifiable, proportional responses, and then there's fascism, the alt-right and all the associated uglies.
Yeah, yeah, and the ones on the left you always leave out too... Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot et al.

What happens, do you think, when the "justified, proportional responses" are ignored?
 

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Your issue isn't with:
"I would have put a baseball bat into this bloke’s skull"​
But my rephrasing of the Youtube video that you liked... titled "Transgender Gets Mad At Gamestop Employee For Calling Him A Man"...?
Id prefer you respected her wishes and call her a woman...
Pretty much the basis of the video.
 
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Yeah, yeah, and the ones on the left you always leave out too... Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot et al.

What happens, do you think, when the "justified, proportional responses" are ignored?
Progressives are anti-authoritarian and pro-democracy so will denounce murderous dictatorships regardless of so called 'side'.
 

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Please take your bigoted hate speech elsewhere.
Lets play a game here... it involves sex so you might be interested in it!

You go out for a night on the razzle and chat up a nice looking woman. You take her back to yours and because you're both hot for some down and dirty sex, you don't bother making out and head straight to the bedroom for some hot monkey sex. By the time you pull off your shirt, she's got out of her kit and is standing there nekid sporting an erection larger than yours.

Do you:
1: Get on your knees and start sucking and then bend over and take it like a man (assuming that you're a man).
2: Freak, punch the fake woman out and toss it out of your place
3: Say sorry, you're not into dick and ask her to leave

According to trans people, any answer other than 1 means that you are transphobic and bigoted.

Pre-op trans women also think that because they say they are women and still like women, that lesbians should go to bed with them and if the lesbians don't go to bed with them, they are transphobic.

And considering that approximately 80% of trans women don't bother with gender reassignment surgery but expect to be treated like a woman, even going so far as to complain when they are patted down by a man. I saw a tweet from one trans woman who was pre-op who demanded that a woman pat her down, despite still having male genitalia. She got upset because a man was going to pat her down, but was fine in forcing a woman to pat down her male genitalia. That can be considered sexual assault (against the woman) and sexual harrassment!
 

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Lets play a game here... it involves sex so you might be interested in it!

You go out for a night on the razzle and chat up a nice looking woman. You take her back to yours and because you're both hot for some down and dirty sex, you don't bother making out and head straight to the bedroom for some hot monkey sex. By the time you pull off your shirt, she's got out of her kit and is standing there nekid sporting an erection larger than yours.

Do you:
1: Get on your knees and start sucking and then bend over and take it like a man (assuming that you're a man).
2: Freak, punch the fake woman out and toss it out of your place
3: Say sorry, you're not into dick and ask her to leave

According to trans people, any answer other than 1 means that you are transphobic and bigoted.
#2
 

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Lets play a game here... it involves sex so you might be interested in it!

You go out for a night on the razzle and chat up a nice looking woman. You take her back to yours and because you're both hot for some down and dirty sex, you don't bother making out and head straight to the bedroom for some hot monkey sex. By the time you pull off your shirt, she's got out of her kit and is standing there nekid sporting an erection larger than yours.

Do you:
1: Get on your knees and start sucking and then bend over and take it like a man (assuming that you're a man).
2: Freak, punch the fake woman out and toss it out of your place
3: Say sorry, you're not into dick and ask her to leave

According to trans people, any answer other than 1 means that you are transphobic and bigoted.

Pre-op trans women also think that because they say they are women and still like women, that lesbians should go to bed with them and if the lesbians don't go to bed with them, they are transphobic.

And considering that approximately 80% of trans women don't bother with gender reassignment surgery but expect to be treated like a woman, even going so far as to complain when they are patted down by a man. I saw a tweet from one trans woman who was pre-op who demanded that a woman pat her down, despite still having male genitalia. She got upset because a man was going to pat her down, but was fine in forcing a woman to pat down her male genitalia. That can be considered sexual assault (against the woman) and sexual harrassment!
Not sure if you're aware, but I'm one of the least PC posters here, and the post of mine that you quoted was not serious. It was more about highlighting hypocrisy.

In your hypothetical I would be rather cross, and tempted to take option 2. But would instead take a less polite version of option 3. They should have been upfront to begin with.
 
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Lets play a game here... it involves sex so you might be interested in it!

You go out for a night on the razzle and chat up a nice looking woman. You take her back to yours and because you're both hot for some down and dirty sex, you don't bother making out and head straight to the bedroom for some hot monkey sex. By the time you pull off your shirt, she's got out of her kit and is standing there nekid sporting an erection larger than yours.

Do you:
1: Get on your knees and start sucking and then bend over and take it like a man (assuming that you're a man).
2: Freak, punch the fake woman out and toss it out of your place
3: Say sorry, you're not into dick and ask her to leave

According to trans people, any answer other than 1 means that you are transphobic and bigoted.

Pre-op trans women also think that because they say they are women and still like women, that lesbians should go to bed with them and if the lesbians don't go to bed with them, they are transphobic.

And considering that approximately 80% of trans women don't bother with gender reassignment surgery but expect to be treated like a woman, even going so far as to complain when they are patted down by a man. I saw a tweet from one trans woman who was pre-op who demanded that a woman pat her down, despite still having male genitalia. She got upset because a man was going to pat her down, but was fine in forcing a woman to pat down her male genitalia. That can be considered sexual assault (against the woman) and sexual harrassment!
Incredibly that same person asking for te woman to pat her down would also be demanding that this same white male who attempted to pat her down should also be sleeping with her.
 
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Lets play a game here... it involves sex so you might be interested in it!

You go out for a night on the razzle and chat up a nice looking woman. You take her back to yours and because you're both hot for some down and dirty sex, you don't bother making out and head straight to the bedroom for some hot monkey sex. By the time you pull off your shirt, she's got out of her kit and is standing there nekid sporting an erection larger than yours.

Do you:
1: Get on your knees and start sucking and then bend over and take it like a man (assuming that you're a man).
2: Freak, punch the fake woman out and toss it out of your place
3: Say sorry, you're not into dick and ask her to leave

According to trans people, any answer other than 1 means that you are transphobic and bigoted.

Pre-op trans women also think that because they say they are women and still like women, that lesbians should go to bed with them and if the lesbians don't go to bed with them, they are transphobic.

And considering that approximately 80% of trans women don't bother with gender reassignment surgery but expect to be treated like a woman, even going so far as to complain when they are patted down by a man. I saw a tweet from one trans woman who was pre-op who demanded that a woman pat her down, despite still having male genitalia. She got upset because a man was going to pat her down, but was fine in forcing a woman to pat down her male genitalia. That can be considered sexual assault (against the woman) and sexual harrassment!
I know trans people and none of them believe that. How many trans friends do you have to form that view?
 
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I didn't always see eye to eye with him including in this thread, but we need Rick James/Karl Pilkington/Viney is Lord back.
 
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How do you know they don’t believe that?
We're friends. One of them actually transitioned after many years of marriage. Another is a prominent rights activist so of course we've discussed issues.

The hypothetical is ridiculous.
 
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Yeah, yeah, and the ones on the left you always leave out too... Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot et al.

What happens, do you think, when the "justified, proportional responses" are ignored?
We were talking about the rise of Nazis and other RWNJs. Hence my reference to them.

But sure, those murderous nutters too.

This is one thing that irks me in many discussions: talking about an issue, you bring up a relevant example. This gets the response "WHY DON'T YOU MENTION THE SOCIALISTS TOO?!?!"
 
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