Conspiracy Theory VOTER FRAUD COMPILATION. CRIME OF THE CENTURY! * Debunked

[bok_party]

For California, hardly a rampant red state > https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_ID_in_California


California does not require voters to present photo identification. However, some voters may be asked to show a form of identification when voting if they are voting for the first time after registering to vote by mail and did not provide a driver license number, California identification number, or the last four digits of their social security number.[1][2]

The following list of accepted ID was current as of November 2019. Click here for the California Secretary of State page on accepted ID to ensure you have the most current information.

• Copy of a recent utility bill
• Sample ballot booklet sent from the county elections office to the voter
• Document sent to the voter by a government agency
• Passport
• Driver’s license
• Official state identification card
• Student identification that includes name and photograph
• ________________________________________________________________________

As of April 2021, 35 states enforced (or were scheduled to begin enforcing) voter identification requirements. A total of 20 states required voters to present photo identification at the polls; the remainder accepted other forms of identification. Valid forms of identification differ by state. Commonly accepted forms of ID include driver's licenses, state-issued identification cards, and military identification cards.[3][4]

So if you are underprivileged, you may not have:

- A passport as it's costly and you probably can't afford to travel anyway
- Driver's licence - possibly have never had the need for a car and/or cannot afford to buy one or even buy a licence alone
- Aren't a student so you wouldn't have that and many places don't accept Student ID anyway
- Not sure how a sample ballot booklet even qualifies you more so than other ID's???
- Possibly homeless so no chance of having a utility bill and/or it may not even be in your name
- Again, could be homeless so no way of a document by a government agency being sent to you.
- Official state ID. This is the only one I am not sure about but again, cost, distance to acquire one when you don't have transport/enough money/time to get to these locations either.

 

[BlueE]

Missed what? Trump and his accusations of sexual impropriety but no proof seemed an appropriate example for this thread, through which to explore some inconsistent thought processes on display.

You still haven't managed to say yay or nay to the legitimacy question. I understand that you harbor concerns as to whether the processes will actually be completed as directed - but say everything falls into place, everything is done satisfactorily and the forensic audits are carried out. If nothing is found in terms of widespread organised fraud, does that change your mind on the legitimacy of the election?

So you get so triggered about Orange Man Bad you have to post about supposed links to Epstein's Pedo island and his supposed sexual abuse of minors in the Election Fraud thread? I've answered both, but you keep bringing it up like a vomiting dog.

I did say yay or nay twice now, but the gas lighting where you derail the thread for pages is probably why you didn't see my direct response to your question.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/voter-fraud-compilation-crime-of-the-century.1251196/reply?quote=69298802

But there are continuing problems with GA alleging 400,000 mail in votes can not prove chain of custody because ballot envelopes were destroyed. If the forensic audit can confirm through paper analysis if the ballots are official or fake, then it's proved one way or the other but destroying chain of custody is a federal offence and there is an argument that the offending ballots should automatically be rejected.

AZ is also facing continued resistance to for the Court Ordered audit of Maricopa county with the latest court challenge to the four independent auditors, that the audit shouldn't go ahead because they argue the plan to confirm voter's identity by knocking on doors at their addresses is intimidation!

 

[BlueE]

Uh huh

Biden coming up on 3 months - if he's there for another 3 that'll see off one particular 'truth', just as one example.

Additionally, I'd think we can dismiss the 'radical socialist' takes right now.

Off the top of my head - Fox, Breitbart, OAN, NewsMax. Basically the pantheon of questionable right wing outlets.

How Propaganda Replaced Journalism and the Dangers of Third Party "Fact-Checkers".

Sharyl Attkisson—How Propaganda Replaced Journalism and the Dangers of Third-Party ‘Fact-Checkers’

“That’s what the propagandists know… If the same thing is said over and over again, regardless of how untrue it is, it ultimately sinks in,” says Sharyl At...

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[M Malice]

So if you are underprivileged, you may not have:

- A passport as it's costly and you probably can't afford to travel anyway
- Driver's licence - possibly have never had the need for a car and/or cannot afford to buy one or even buy a licence alone
- Aren't a student so you wouldn't have that and many places don't accept Student ID anyway
- Not sure how a sample ballot booklet even qualifies you more so than other ID's???
- Possibly homeless so no chance of having a utility bill and/or it may not even be in your name
- Again, could be homeless so no way of a document by a government agency being sent to you.
- Official state ID. This is the only one I am not sure about but again, cost, distance to acquire one when you don't have transport/enough money/time to get to these locations either.

If you want ID and are underprivileged some states provide free ID options >
https://dmv.dc.gov/service/eligibility-free-non-driver-id

Eligibility for Free Non-Driver ID
DC DMV provides several groups of individuals non-driver identification (ID) cards free of charge. These free ID cards will be either REAL ID or Limited Purpose credentials.
_________________________________________________________________________________________

Would this really be a significant problem for a large group of homeless people, how many of the homeless living life as rough as guts on the street would want to vote, they'd have more to worry about than which buffoon to choose for President.

 

[WA ROO]

Should have also mentioned - the brainwashed really hate it when you point this out

But apologies for that searing lack of originality mate, I'll try to take a leaf out of your book moving forward.
I mean sh*t.. thats practically a nervous tic. Was legit only the first page of results in recent threads that were still quotable too, search on Roo's username and 'TDS' if anyone wants a proper laugh

Not sure what is more sad
The fact you searched my posts
Or that you didn't find anymore 5 yr old memes to try and appropriate

 

[bok_party]

If you want ID and are underprivileged some states provide free ID options >
https://dmv.dc.gov/service/eligibility-free-non-driver-id

Eligibility for Free Non-Driver ID
DC DMV provides several groups of individuals non-driver identification (ID) cards free of charge. These free ID cards will be either REAL ID or Limited Purpose credentials.
_________________________________________________________________________________________

Would this really be a significant problem for a large group of homeless people, how many of the homeless living life as rough as guts on the street would want to vote, they'd have more to worry about than which buffoon to choose for President.

People still like to feel they can contribute even if homeless. I get what you are saying though.

plus most of the furore is more to do with GA then some of the states you’ve shown, an area that’a a swing state, so both sides are contesting this. And generally the underprivileged tend to be democratic voters (based off data).

 

[Crankitup]

Also funny how there always seems to be a sustained push after the GOP lose an election innit? After the elections they win, not so much.

Is it your view that Trump and/or the GOP didn't make any claims about election fraud after the 2016 election?

 

[Crankitup]

 

[bourbons]

So you get so triggered about Orange Man Bad you have to post about supposed links to Epstein's Pedo island and his supposed sexual abuse of minors in the Election Fraud thread? I've answered both, but you keep bringing it up like a vomiting dog.

"Triggered", lolz. I've actually been pretty civil on this particular point - meanwhile you're ranting about dog vomit

I'm not sure how much clearer I can make this, mate. Its an example offered in response to this post of yours -> https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...-of-the-century.1251196/page-44#post-69325077 to illustrate the double standards of said post ie. there's a lot of suspicion that election fraud occurred but no hard evidence, just like there is a lot of suspicion of Trump's sexual impropriety but no hard evidence. Yet you believe fervently in one, to the point you'd like to see a democratic election overturned, but not in the other.

I did say yay or nay twice now, but the gas lighting where you derail the thread for pages is probably why you didn't see my direct response to your question.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/voter-fraud-compilation-crime-of-the-century.1251196/reply?quote=69298802

Text from your link is;

For a forensic audit that examples each paper ballot (for machine stamping, fake paper from unofficial sources etc) and follows the chain of evidence with ballot images and counted ballots, yes. The live audits of Dominion logs need to be looked at separately.​

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There were so many problems with GA that they've now changed the laws so they can't happen again. I also support the grand jury investigations to see if Trump tried to manipulate the election in GA as well.​

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TWO grand juries convened in Georgia to investigate Trump

Three cases have been referred to the Fulton County DA by the Secretary of State - including to probe a phone call in which Trump told the Georgia Secretary of State to 'find' 11,780 votes.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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The only thing you've offered is support for the idea that Trump be investigated over his role in any election manipulation. That's not what I'm asking you. Again, I understand you have concerns about chain of custody and non-compliance - but hypothetically, if we can assume for a minute that everything was to be carried out satisfactorily in terms of forensic audits, does that change your mind on the legitimacy of the election if nothing is found?

Its a yes or no question.

Edit: just re-read and saw the 'yes' in your first paragraph, apologies that I missed it at first. So I take this to mean that yes, you would consider the election legitimate if the process you've described happens and no irregularity is found. Thats good

Just for my own curiosity - what makes paper/a ballot 'fake'? Is there a prescribed source, process or manufacturer that has to be used to make it?

 

[bourbons]

How Propaganda Replaced Journalism and the Dangers of Third Party "Fact-Checkers".

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Sharyl Attkisson—How Propaganda Replaced Journalism and the Dangers of Third-Party ‘Fact-Checkers’

“That’s what the propagandists know… If the same thing is said over and over again, regardless of how untrue it is, it ultimately sinks in,” says Sharyl At...

www.theepochtimes.com

I errr... don't think the Epoch Times is the best vehicle through which to examine propaganda and fact checks, to understate things somewhat

 

[bourbons]

Not sure what is more sad
The fact you searched my posts
Or that you didn't find anymore 5 yr old memes to try and appropriate

Probably a (I assume) grown man responding to any criticism whatsoever of his god emperor with 'TDS' for 4 years, then crying like a toddler when his safeword got taken away

 

[bourbons]

Is it your view that Trump and/or the GOP didn't make any claims about election fraud after the 2016 election?

No, its that they didn't try to institute new voting regs.

 

[Crankitup]

No, its that they didn't try to institute new voting regs.

Pretty shortsighted of them IMO.

 

[BlueE]

I errr... don't think the Epoch Times is the best vehicle through which to examine propaganda and fact checks, to understate things somewhat

AND there it is. Just proved my point, so the person or anything in the interview CAN NOT BE TRUSTED, BECAUSE THE NYT or WAPO DOESN'T SAY SO!

 

[bourbons]

Pretty shortsighted of them IMO.

Yep, they can only see beyond elections they lose apparently.

 

[bourbons]

AND there it is. Just proved my point, so the person or anything in the interview CAN NOT BE TRUSTED, BECAUSE THE NYT or WAPO DOESN'T SAY SO!

An outlet known for propaganda and failed fact checks picks up a piece on propaganda and fact checks by a noted anti-vaxer, and that proves your point?

Ok

And again, I'm not sure why my distrust of one outlet therefore means I must have 100% faith in another. On available evidence that would seem to be your modus operandi, not mine.

 

[bok_party]

AND there it is. Just proved my point, so the person or anything in the interview CAN NOT BE TRUSTED, BECAUSE THE NYT or WAPO DOESN'T SAY SO!

You literally do the same thing just opposite direction. IT'S MAINSTREAM MEDIA! CANNOT TRUST THEM! YOU ARE ALL SHEEP!

But like bourbons said, when they are known for propaganda and failed fact checks, it really makes what you share incredibly unreliable.

 

[WA ROO]

Probably a (I assume) grown man responding to any criticism whatsoever of his god emperor with 'TDS' for 4 years, then crying like a toddler when his safeword got taken away

Only one here sooking is the unoriginal boor who has to appropriate 5 year old memes then searches other posters history when called on it

 

[BlueE]

"Triggered", lolz. I've actually been pretty civil on this particular point - meanwhile you're ranting about dog vomit

I'm not sure how much clearer I can make this, mate. Its an example offered in response to this post of yours -> https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...-of-the-century.1251196/page-44#post-69325077 to illustrate the double standards of said post ie. there's a lot of suspicion that election fraud occurred but no hard evidence, just like there is a lot of suspicion of Trump's sexual impropriety but no hard evidence. Yet you believe fervently in one, to the point you'd like to see a democratic election overturned, but not in the other.

Text from your link is;

For a forensic audit that examples each paper ballot (for machine stamping, fake paper from unofficial sources etc) and follows the chain of evidence with ballot images and counted ballots, yes. The live audits of Dominion logs need to be looked at separately.​

​

There were so many problems with GA that they've now changed the laws so they can't happen again. I also support the grand jury investigations to see if Trump tried to manipulate the election in GA as well.​

​

TWO grand juries convened in Georgia to investigate Trump

Three cases have been referred to the Fulton County DA by the Secretary of State - including to probe a phone call in which Trump told the Georgia Secretary of State to 'find' 11,780 votes.

www.dailymail.co.uk

​

The only thing you've offered is support for the idea that Trump be investigated over his role in any election manipulation. That's not what I'm asking you. Again, I understand you have concerns about chain of custody and non-compliance - but hypothetically, if we can assume for a minute that everything was to be carried out satisfactorily in terms of forensic audits, does that change your mind on the legitimacy of the election if nothing is found?

Its a yes or no question.

Edit: just re-read and saw the 'yes' in your first paragraph, apologies that I missed it at first. So I take this to mean that yes, you would consider the election legitimate if the process you've described happens and no irregularity is found. Thats good

Just for my own curiosity - what makes paper/a ballot 'fake'? Is there a prescribed source, process or manufacturer that has to be used to make it?

Hmmm, I looked back at the link that you quoted and it's been changed and now in a difference space since I posted it yesterday. My post has been edited, I said Yes twice, the first "Yes" has been removed, along with your question that I was replying to. Have you or the buy guy enlisted "Napoleon" the enforcer to help you out?

There are registered mechanical systems similar to those used for detecting counterfeit notes that analyse paper which were contracted for the forensic audit in GA, if the State ever releases the paper ballots and chain of custody. But Five Months After 2020 Election, Georgia Still Has Not Produced Chain of Custody Records for 355,000 Absentee Vote by Mail Ballots Deposited in Drop Boxes

Five Months After 2020 Election, Georgia Still Has Not Produced Chain of Custody Records for 355,000 Absentee Vote by Mail Ballots Deposited in Drop Boxes - The Georgia Star News

Five months after the November 3, 2020 presidential election, officials at the state and county level in Georgia have failed to produce chain of custody records for more than 355,000 absentee vote by mail ballots deposited in drop boxes located around the state for that election.

georgiastarnews.com

Biden was declared winner of Georgia and its 16 Electoral College votes by a margin of 11,599 votes, or less than 0.25 percent of the 5 million votes cast ...

Five months after the November 3, 2020 election in Georgia, there are no chain of custody documents for 355,918, or 59.3 percent, of the estimated 600,000 absentee vote by mail ballots deposited in drop boxes and delivered to county registrars and counted in Georgia’s 2020 presidential election.

The Fulton County ballot transfer form data may, however, be incomplete. Fulton County officials responded to The Star News Open Records request on January 22 with two large PDF files. A review of those two files – one with a label that ended with BX-1, and another with a label that ended with BX-3 – showed ballot transfer form records for 36,635 absentee vote by mail ballots deposited in drop boxes.

That number is significantly lower than what was expected for Fulton County, given that The Atlanta Journal Constitution reported that 145,000 absentee vote by mail ballots were cast in Fulton County in the November 3, 2020 general election out of more than 524,000 votes cast.

Even though a Court has ordered all 2.3 million votes from Maricopa County forensically audited and finally after challenges and delays, four reputable companies have been appointed but still democrats and crying, kicking and screaming to the Court frivolously demanding it doesn't occur demanding, as Court documents posted yesterday show.

 

[BlueE]

An outlet known for propaganda and failed fact checks picks up a piece on propaganda and fact checks by a noted anti-vaxer, and that proves your point?

Ok

And again, I'm not sure why my distrust of one outlet therefore means I must have 100% faith in another. On available evidence that would seem to be your modus operandi, not mine.

Hahahaha.

Keep digging that hole, maybe Napoleon will come to the rescue again.

An outlet known for propaganda? Was that when they reported on the proven links between enhanced f'n research on viruses and bats and WIT and links to U of NC and subsequent US funding? Or Reporting contrary to the CCP?

So you can't possibly listen to one of the best interviews on how journalism has become propaganda from someone who's been at the cutting edge for years with a first hand view, because ... um ... um ANTIVAX?

You truly can't see all the times the NYT lied, from Weapons of mass destruction to anything to do with Trump?

I post interesting and usually hard to obtain information, so people can see other sides to a topic and have better information to make their own minds.

You totally lack any ability for critical literacy because of your SRP peer reinforced prejudices and have to rely on gas lighting and trolling to succeed. Just my opinion of course.

 

[Mofra]

How's it all going, any new evidence presented to court or is it all moot because Trump is wearing Biden's face and is actually still the president?

 

[bok_party]

Hmmm, I looked back at the link that you quoted and it's been changed and now in a difference space since I posted it yesterday. My post has been edited, I said Yes twice, the first "Yes" has been removed, along with your question that I was replying to. Have you or the buy guy enlisted "Napoleon" the enforcer to help you out?

There are registered mechanical systems similar to those used for detecting counterfeit notes that analyse paper which were contracted for the forensic audit in GA, if the State ever releases the paper ballots and chain of custody. But Five Months After 2020 Election, Georgia Still Has Not Produced Chain of Custody Records for 355,000 Absentee Vote by Mail Ballots Deposited in Drop Boxes

Five Months After 2020 Election, Georgia Still Has Not Produced Chain of Custody Records for 355,000 Absentee Vote by Mail Ballots Deposited in Drop Boxes - The Georgia Star News

Five months after the November 3, 2020 presidential election, officials at the state and county level in Georgia have failed to produce chain of custody records for more than 355,000 absentee vote by mail ballots deposited in drop boxes located around the state for that election.

georgiastarnews.com

Biden was declared winner of Georgia and its 16 Electoral College votes by a margin of 11,599 votes, or less than 0.25 percent of the 5 million votes cast ...

Five months after the November 3, 2020 election in Georgia, there are no chain of custody documents for 355,918, or 59.3 percent, of the estimated 600,000 absentee vote by mail ballots deposited in drop boxes and delivered to county registrars and counted in Georgia’s 2020 presidential election.

The Fulton County ballot transfer form data may, however, be incomplete. Fulton County officials responded to The Star News Open Records request on January 22 with two large PDF files. A review of those two files – one with a label that ended with BX-1, and another with a label that ended with BX-3 – showed ballot transfer form records for 36,635 absentee vote by mail ballots deposited in drop boxes.

That number is significantly lower than what was expected for Fulton County, given that The Atlanta Journal Constitution reported that 145,000 absentee vote by mail ballots were cast in Fulton County in the November 3, 2020 general election out of more than 524,000 votes cast.

Even though a Court has ordered all 2.3 million votes from Maricopa County forensically audited and finally after challenges and delays, four reputable companies have been appointed but still democrats and crying, kicking and screaming to the Court frivolously demanding it doesn't occur demanding, as Court documents posted yesterday show.

If I win a football game legitimately and the losing side keep arguing and trying to get the result overturned, as the legal winner, should I just let them keep pushing it for as long as possible and draw the whole season out?

 

[BlueE]

If I win a football game legitimately and the losing side keep arguing and trying to get the result overturned, as the legal winner, should I just let them keep pushing it for as long as possible and draw the whole season out?

You mean the football game that was decided on mail in votes turning up after the result was known up to 7 days after the game finished, and even then the legitimate winner was ahead at 3.00 am after the game with votes counted from the people that were there, even though the video umpire kept switching points between the teams, taking them off winner and giving them the fake winner? But they've buried the replays and refuse to give them to an independent auditors.

Then it turns out that mail in votes that were counted and changed the result, weren't legal, yes the result should be changed back so the team with the legitimate votes won. The only side that is fighting to stop legal audits and delaying a legitimate result are the fake winners. No surprise there.

 

[BlueE]

How's it all going, any new evidence presented to court or is it all moot because Trump is wearing Biden's face and is actually still the president?

Every single thing Joey's handlers have done is reverse any Trump policy. How are the 19,000 unaccompanied minors that illegally crossed the southern boarder just in March doing?

Catturd would be doing a better job than Joey at the moment.

 

[bok_party]

You mean the football game that was decided on mail in votes turning up after the result was known up to 7 days after the game finished, and even then the legitimate winner was ahead at 3.00 am after the game with votes counted from the people that were there, even though the video umpire kept switching points between the teams, taking them off winner and giving them the fake winner? But they've buried the replays and refuse to give them to an independent auditors.

Then it turns out that mail in votes that were counted and changed the result, weren't legal, yes the result should be changed back so the team with the legitimate votes won. The only side that is fighting to stop legal audits and delaying a legitimate result are the fake winners. No surprise there.

You mean the game where the losing side may have had most of the possession and chances early on in the game but then the winning side came back with a flurry of chances and put themselves in front despite being down early on?

Turns out they weren't legal? You mean the 60 legal court cases that said they were legal are lying? Including republican hired judges etc?