WADA to appeal AFL Tribunal's Essendon ruling

[HomerThompson]

I may be wrong.
But this is danks appeal i am talking about, can WADA actually take it out of his hands?
Just doesn't seem legal, i thought Dank has the right to appeal to whomever he likes.

Dank was charged with a number of offences. The AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal were comfortably satisfied about his guilt on some of them, and were not comfortably satisfied about his guilt on others. Dank has appealed the guilty findings (to the AFL Anti-Doping Appeals Board), and WADA has appealed the findings where Dank was not found guilty (to CAS).
Should Dank be successful in his appeal, WADA can still become involved at that point on those charges by appeal to CAS; they could also appeal associated penalties handed down by the AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal (most likely directly to CAS based on recent events).

 

[LoungeLizard]

It's a little murky to me - I think these are the relevant sections from the AFL anti-doping code 2015 - not sure if they are different to any other section of the code - my take is that WADA would be able to go straight to the CAS.
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Yeah i think that says that they can't

 

[rocket18]

So dank appealed the charges that stuck, Wada appealed the ones that didn't.
Who goes 1st here?

Who's on 3rd
Whats on 1st

 

[LoungeLizard]

Who's on 3rd
Whats on 1st

Who's on 2nd then?

 

[rocket18]

Who's on 2nd then?

No, who is on 3rd.

Come on, we're starting to sound like Essendons legal team now.

 

[LoungeLizard]

No, who is on 3rd.

Come on, we're starting to sound like Essendons legal team now.

So if who is on 3rd, then who would go 1st?

 

[Broken_Chairs]

SuperFooty (AFL) ‏@superfooty 17m17 minutes ago
Bombers say they aren't surprised by WADA's decision to appeal Stephen Dank verdict http://trib.al/HorbXdY

LOL but they are surprised WADA appealed Essendons decision?

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I assume they're not surprised considering Wada appealed their case that they would also go after dankz

 

[Satan]

I assume they're not surprised considering Wada appealed their case that they would also go after dankz

At least they were not shocked

 

[Broken_Chairs]

At least they were not shocked

Or staggered

 

[The Dodger]

Once could assume that a ruling saying that Dank was guilty of administering to the players would be very bad for the players' chances of getting off ... kind of hard to combine you are guilty of giving to them with you didn't take anything...

The AFL wanted to give it a shot...but they tried the slightly more believable but even tighter balance of "you are guilty of having those drugs but we can't be sure the injections that we don't know what they were...were those drugs"

 

[Satan]

Appeal could be heard in oct or nov according to Campbell on Sen

 

[Blueballs38]

Put a fork in them EFC are done ... they know it but are now putting on a brave face.

So brave so very very brave.

 

[bombers225]

Will the footy public let it go if Essendon are cleared by Wada?

 

[blackshadow]

Will the footy public let it go if Essendon are cleared by Wada?

Now where is the fun in that?

 

[Magruder]

Will the footy public let it go if Essendon are cleared by Wada?

Yes

 

[compact72]

Will the footy public let it go if Essendon are cleared by Wada?

You mean cleared by CAS?

I think people will think they are the drug cheats that got away, however they will also accept the fact that Essendons lack of records was dodgy and an attempt to get out of this

 

[Red Bull]

Will the footy public let it go if Essendon are cleared by Wada?

Are you getting tired ??

Only the truth will set you free ...

 

[yeahmate]

Will the footy public let it go if Essendon are cleared by Wada?

Don't know about the public, but I wont accept anything that lets the players off unless the decision is released to the public and it explains what substances the players were actually given if not TB4

 

[Proper Gander]

Who goes 1st here?

Watts.

I'll get my coat...

 

[Viceregal]

Watts.

I'll get my coat...

Watt's wrong with you ... Watts is on second

 

[imperial_oz]

Succinct and complete.

Do we know if these can be combined under the same appeal hearing as the players?

I would think that if all are assessed at the same time, it could strenthen WADA's interpretation of comfortable satisfaction.

I was only just thinking this minute on the morning commute, that with the time differences any new updates (as scarce as they've become now without all the leaks) will be early morning news items and forum posts.

And low and behold, you deliver!

This will get chief's HTB post count up and running again for another couple of weeks, 'til the next announcement!

It's an interesting point.

Any finding against one party may heavily influence the case against the other. Clearing one party would have a similar effect in the other direction.

I'm thinking that Dank will not want to be part of the players appeal as his lawyers would have far less control over how the case could be run and any screw ups could affect him badly. I'll wager he will want to go alone on this and would resist having the cases combined.

 

[Books]

I may be wrong.
But this is danks appeal i am talking about, can WADA actually take it out of his hands?
Just doesn't seem legal, i thought Dank has the right to appeal to whomever he likes.

My understanding is Dank's appeal is now moot.
Even if he wins his appeal to the AFL tribunal, WADA can in turn appeal that decision.
So ultimately it will end up at CAS anyway.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Will the footy public let it go if Essendon are cleared by Wada?

nah, at best y'all be known as the team that got away with cheating. but don't fret too much, everyone will accept the finding and move along.

 

[neutralguy]

My understanding is Dank's appeal is now moot.
Even if he wins his appeal to the AFL tribunal, WADA can in turn appeal that decision.
So ultimately it will end up at CAS anyway.

Hope he goes through with his appeal then Wada appeals it to the Cas if the result is reversed, double legal fees for the Essendon drug regime participant.

 

[nineteen eighty]

So the tribunal itself was so independent that according to Timmy, the AFL was still trying to do a deal with EFC on the night before the Tribunal sitting. I keep telling myself to switch off whenever Timmy talks about EFC's PED program given he is so compromised (and rightly so...he's a legend of the club whose son is captain of the club and their best player).

Interesting to see how this new claim plays out. First I have heard of it.

I do think it a bullshit claim though that given no new evidence will be put forward, there is no chance of a different verdict other than what the AFL Tribunal gave. Completely different tribunal with completely independent members. Players are about to be hung out to dry by Albert.