2nds WAFL 2016

[Underdog]

I must admit, the outrage is 100% unjustified. Peel played eligible players as determined by the WAFL clubs that agreed to the alignment. They had good luck with players be fit and also "rested" to test the rest of the list. There shouldn't be any outrage at all. The fact it is a "Freo" alignment should mean nothing. Had EP won today with a "stacked" team I'm sure we would all be revelling in the glory.

Most WAFL teams and fans have been 100% against the alignment from day 1. Stop rewriting history. The outrage is caused by a system nobody has believed in. It's not that its outside the rules, but rather, that most believe the rules are wrong and they've been consistent on that since the start.

I'd feel exactly the same if EP got up.

 

[FootyFan96]

I must admit, the outrage is 100% unjustified. Peel played eligible players as determined by the WAFL clubs that agreed to the alignment. They had good luck with players be fit and also "rested" to test the rest of the list. There shouldn't be any outrage at all. The fact it is a "Freo" alignment should mean nothing. Had EP won today with a "stacked" team I'm sure we would all be revelling in the glory.

I wouldn't give a rats ass if east perth had any success, I support West Coast as an AFL team. I don't care what else they achieve other then an AFL premiership or maybe a decent AFL GF performance(smashing freo is a bonus).

However the fact that 3 years ago WAFL fans brought attention to the fact that this would happen, where one or both of the AFL teams would not make finals with the WAFL team getting in and just dominate the WAFL finals. However because the WAFC are incompetent they chose to ignore it, but now we find ourselves in a situation where they know it is wrong and will change the rules next year because they don't want the embarrassment of it happening again. Even when the SANFL brought in alignment teams they put in measures for this for christ sake.

The WAFC was so focused on making it happen they didn't think what it would do to the WAFL. Do you seriously think the other WAFL clubs had a choice? When the source of a large amount of funding says they want something they usually get it. Plus Peel and EP already agreed to sell their souls for it.

 

[Boohemian]

The situation we find ourselves in is because the WAFL clubs, Subiaco included, refused stand alone sides for West Coast and Fremantle.

The euphoria of Subiaco winning a consecutive premiership last year probably has clouded the fact that Peel were utterly decimated for their final last year when the Boss decided to rest the seniors in the last game of the round. it runs both ways.

 

[avishka5]

AFL reserve would be a nice. Maybe have zone where you get the 5 vic, 2 WA and 2 SA clubs in one zone play each other and then you have the other with 5 Vic Clubs and 2 QLD and 2NSW clubs. It minimises travel. Could fill it with amautuer/country and a couple of state league players.

 

[Ljp86]

nah stuff that. Give us our own reserve sides and fill it us with amateur and reserves players. winning a wafl premiership that way is more legit than the current system.

Ideally, there should be a national reserves competition so that each club's second sides would play against each other before each club's senior sides play. That would involve team lists being expanded by 10-15 players and would also need much more money sunk into the game. That's probably a fair way away at this point, at least a decade, probably longer.

I must admit, the outrage is 100% unjustified. Peel played eligible players as determined by the WAFL clubs that agreed to the alignment. They had good luck with players be fit and also "rested" to test the rest of the list. There shouldn't be any outrage at all. The fact it is a "Freo" alignment should mean nothing. Had EP won today with a "stacked" team I'm sure we would all be revelling in the glory.

No, we wouldn't. I hate East Perth. I hate the way that they and Peel have bastardised the competition by selling themselves out to the AFL clubs behind the other seven clubs' backs. Peel did it more as a survival type thing as they were a genuine basket case but East Perth's reasons were pure greed, they probably thought they could propel themselves to a few flags off the back of their alignment with the West Coast Eagles given the players they could potentially have at their disposal.

The only interest I have in East Perth is the development of the Eagles' players playing there and how they are going. I do like seeing West Coast's players there do well from an individual perspective. But other than that I hope East Perth get demolished every week.

 

[avishka5]

Ideally, there should be a national reserves competition so that each club's second sides would play against each other before each club's senior sides play. That would involve team lists being expanded by 10-15 players and would also need much more money sunk into the game. That's probably a fair way away at this point, at least a decade, probably longer.
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should have got that up and running before the womens comp.

 

[darkshines]

The situation we find ourselves in is because the WAFL clubs, Subiaco included, refused stand alone sides for West Coast and Fremantle.

The euphoria of Subiaco winning a consecutive premiership last year probably has clouded the fact that Peel were utterly decimated for their final last year when the Boss decided to rest the seniors in the last game of the round. it runs both ways.

Exactly. If the WAFL clubs gave us our reserves teams like we wanted, this never happens.

Judging by the saltiness of the vanquished in the last month, I'd bet there'll be WCE and Freo reserves teams in 2019.

 

[FootyFan96]

The situation we find ourselves in is because the WAFL clubs, Subiaco included, refused stand alone sides for West Coast and Fremantle.

The euphoria of Subiaco winning a consecutive premiership last year probably has clouded the fact that Peel were utterly decimated for their final last year when the Boss decided to rest the seniors in the last game of the round. it runs both ways.

The problem was that the AFL clubs wanted no limits.

It should be they have their own teams with AFL team players and "top up players" with top up players having to be younger then 23 and to be eligible for finals they must play at least 6 WAFL games during the season with 3 being played in the last 5 fixtures.

OR, or a 7-8 game minimum plus the 3 of the last 5 fixtures if the clubs were aligned with existing clubs.

Similar to the SANFL system but more restrictive to allow more local players to play in finals.

Judging by the saltiness of the vanquished in the last month, I'd bet there'll be WCE and Freo reserves teams in 2019.

Also traditional EP fans hate it. However same probably not for Peel because they don't really have traditional fans. So they will be back in the pits for sure. Its like EP's 3 peat in the early 2000s, they had success when aligned (and WCE not doing so well) however did nothing till a couple of GF appearances in 2013 and 2014 when they got close again with WCE.

So coming to saltiness, would you really say the WAFL club deserved the premiership, probably not, that is why in my opinion 2000, 2001,2002 and now 2016 are tainted, don't expect people to agree with me but thats genuinely what I believe.

 

[estibador]

Of course i know WC have our own lost of players that play at EP, but if you'd watched EP selections this year or seen posts on here about selections, you'd have known that WC listed players were dropped back to the EP reserves to stop there sing too many in the league side.

The eagles worried about playing too many players in their own reserves side? I find that hard to believe.

You sure they weren't dropped because they weren't good enough to play WAFL league?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

If nothing else I think the rules for finals eligibility will change next year.

Guys like Blakely, Langdon, Suban and Griffin who played 13-15 AFL games and just 5 or so WAFL games shouldn't be eligible.

 

[avishka5]

The eagles worried about playing too many players in their own reserves side? I find that hard to believe.

You sure they weren't dropped because they weren't good enough to play WAFL league?

A few kids were but there were a lot of instances other were dropped and their form was either good or ok.

 

[kane249]

Meh good on Peel for getting the win, if South don't win the flag I pretty much don't give a shit who else wins it.

As Fivey touched on expect some knee jerk reactions for next year though with the complaints this will generate.

It would have happpened sooner if East Perth hadn't shit the bed in their grand final.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Meh good on Peel for getting the win, if South don't win the flag I pretty much don't give a shit who else wins it.

As Fivey touched on expect some knee jerk reactions for next year though with the complaints this will generate.

It would have happpened sooner if East Perth hadn't shit the bed in their grand final.

I don't think it's a knee-jerk reaction, I think it's correcting an error.

Guys who were in the AFL side for most of the year shouldn't be eligible to play WAFL finals once their AFL season is over.

 

[kane249]

I do agree there should have been better defined criteria, but it's also never been a problem until a flag was won.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I do agree there should have been better defined criteria, but it's also never been a problem until a flag was won.

Well the alignment model's only been in place a few years and I can't remember an aligned side being so chock-full of AFL-listed players in that time as Peel's has been throughout this year's finals.

Even when East Perth made the grand final in 2014 there were only 11 WCE-listed players in the side, and of them only Butler played more than half the season at AFL level.

 

[Underdog]

I do agree there should have been better defined criteria, but it's also never been a problem until a flag was won.

This is simply bullshit. There has been outcry about the alignment system from prior to its implemetation and consistently since. Suggesting anything else is rewriting history.

Why does this suggestion keep getting trotted out when it's blatantly wrong?

 

[refresh]

No, we wouldn't. I hate East Perth.

Do you also hate the financial advantage Subiaco have as a result of the 540 seats they get to sell at every event at Domain?

 

[La Dolce Vita]

wow peel won with 15 of Freo's best 22 playing..The same core that could only beat Brisbane and the bombers this year


The future is so bright......lol

 

[kane249]

Do you also hate the financial advantage Subiaco have as a result of the 540 seats they get to sell at every event at Domain?

Not to mention the members bar which would do a roaring trade.

But they are soon to lose that advantage.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

wow peel won with 15 of Freo's best 22 playing..The same core that could only beat Brisbane and the bombers this year

By my reckoning Yarran is the only bona fide Freo best 22 player who played today.

A few others like Collins, Apeness and Blakely probably on the cusp.

Saying 15 just makes you look a bit daft.

 

[avishka5]

By my reckoning Yarran is the only bona fide Freo best 22 player who played today.

A few others like Collins, Apeness and Blakely probably on the cusp.

Saying 15 just makes you look a bit daft.

did weller play today? he would be classified as one of their b22.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

did weller play today? he would be classified as one of their b22.

Nope, didn't play. Like I said there were a few fringe 22ers like Silvagni and Hughes but not many entrenched players.

 

[DudleyDocker]

did weller play today? he would be classified as one of their b22.

Didn't qualify. Along with Ballantyne, Walters, Fyfe, Pearce, Ibbotson, Sheridan, Mundy, Crozier, Taberner, Barlow, Mayne, Neale, Pavlich, Hill, Sandilands, Spurr, Sutcliffe - probably missed some. Hard to say who was best 22 this year and who will be best 22 next year but most of those that played are fringe at best.

I think Carbine Chaos has it about right, but who knows?

 

[Dark Sharks]

Heard Sandilands was BOG for peel and Pavlich booted 16 goals, is this true?

 

[Biggie]

Heard Sandilands was BOG for peel and Pavlich booted 16 goals, is this true?

Yes