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Some ladder-based top tens coming up over the next few days. Here's the first.
MOST POINTS SCORED IN A H&A SEASON
MOST POINTS SCORED IN A H&A SEASON
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Rank Team Year P W L D FOR AG %
01. CL 1981 21 19 2 0 3352 2128 157.52
02. SD 1981 21 16 5 0 3036 2019 150.37
03. CL 1983 21 17 4 0 2985 2061 144.83
04. SF 1981 21 13 8 0 2942 2400 122.58
05. SD 1982 21 16 5 0 2935 2224 131.97
06. SF 1983 21 18 3 0 2922 2070 141.16
07. EF 1986 21 16 5 0 2917 2092 139.44
08. CL 1982 21 16 5 0 2901 2193 132.28
09. S 1986 21 17 4 0 2790 2004 139.22
10. EF 1985 21 17 4 0 2774 1917 144.71- Thread starter
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WINLESS SEASONS
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Year Team P W L D FOR AG %
1902 S 15 0 15 0 400 1079 37.07
1905 S 10 0 10 0 172 792 21.72
1917 MJ 12 0 12 0 364 1243 29.28
1944 SF 19 0 19 0 709 2533 27.99
1999 PT 20 0 20 0 1071 2298 46.61
S - Subiaco
MJ - Midland Junction
SF - South Fremantle
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For the purpose of this thread - I'm including 1942, 1943 and 1944 as official seasons of the WAFL.
For those that don't know, the WAFL was run as an underage competition during these years, however since the league handed out Sandover Medals during these years, and since games played during this time have seemingly been added to players' tallies, I'm counting them as proper seasons.
Besides, record books change a bit when you include them, and that's always fun!
For those that don't know, the WAFL was run as an underage competition during these years, however since the league handed out Sandover Medals during these years, and since games played during this time have seemingly been added to players' tallies, I'm counting them as proper seasons.
Besides, record books change a bit when you include them, and that's always fun!
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The great Stephen Michael won Sandover Medals in 1980 and 1981.
Before 1985, the WAFL counted votes in the usual 3-2-1 format. This changed to 5-4-3-2-1 in 1985.
What's remarkable about Michael's win in 1981 was that he tallied 37 votes in the 3-2-1 format. Not only was this a record in that format, his tally would be good enough to win 12 Sandover Medals post-1985, when everyone else had access to 9 more votes per game.
Before 1985, the WAFL counted votes in the usual 3-2-1 format. This changed to 5-4-3-2-1 in 1985.
What's remarkable about Michael's win in 1981 was that he tallied 37 votes in the 3-2-1 format. Not only was this a record in that format, his tally would be good enough to win 12 Sandover Medals post-1985, when everyone else had access to 9 more votes per game.
Players who represented Western Australia in football and first class cricket.
Player . . . . . Football Cricket
Todd Breman . . . 3 . . . 10 (games played)
Fred Buttsworth .18 . . . .8
Derek Chadwick . 22 . . . 65
James Ditchburn .10 . . . .9
Bruce Duperouzel .6 . . . .5
William Kelly . . 1 . . . .2
Ken McAullay . . .6 . . . 22
Tom Mullooly . . .1 . . . .1
Alan Preen . . . 15 . . . 13
Harry Price . . . 2 . . . 25
Alex Robinson . . 1 . . . .1
Keith Slater . . 21 . . . 67
Earl Spalding . . 8 . . . .4
George Young . . 10 . . . .2
Player . . . . . Football Cricket
Todd Breman . . . 3 . . . 10 (games played)
Fred Buttsworth .18 . . . .8
Derek Chadwick . 22 . . . 65
James Ditchburn .10 . . . .9
Bruce Duperouzel .6 . . . .5
William Kelly . . 1 . . . .2
Ken McAullay . . .6 . . . 22
Tom Mullooly . . .1 . . . .1
Alan Preen . . . 15 . . . 13
Harry Price . . . 2 . . . 25
Alex Robinson . . 1 . . . .1
Keith Slater . . 21 . . . 67
Earl Spalding . . 8 . . . .4
George Young . . 10 . . . .2
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Just to show that I haven't abandoned this thread... here's a couple from this past weekend's action.
Claremont 16.7 (103) def East Perth 15.9 (99). The reserves score that day between the same two teams? Claremont 16.7 (103) def East Perth 15.9 (99)
Finally - South Fremantle overcame a 50-point deficit at 3 quarter time against Perth on Saturday night to win 19.14 (128) to 19.6 (120). Not sure where that ranks in the grand scheme of things, but I think it would be in the top 5 best WAFL comebacks ever.
More coming soon hopefully!
Claremont 16.7 (103) def East Perth 15.9 (99). The reserves score that day between the same two teams? Claremont 16.7 (103) def East Perth 15.9 (99)
Finally - South Fremantle overcame a 50-point deficit at 3 quarter time against Perth on Saturday night to win 19.14 (128) to 19.6 (120). Not sure where that ranks in the grand scheme of things, but I think it would be in the top 5 best WAFL comebacks ever.
More coming soon hopefully!
I couldn't believe those Claremont scores when I saw them online and thought it was a mistake, coincidently the colts margin between Claremont/East Perth was also 4 points this time in favour of the Royals.
Alas I, unfortunately was not at Fremantle Oval on Saturday night to see Souths great comeback.
Keep up the good work with the stats
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The case of the missing goal
The career of Ted Tyson is largely undocumented. Despite having one of the ends at Subiaco Oval named in his honour, you don't find his name bandied about too often with the great full-forwards of WA Football... which is insane.
The stats speak for themselves - 1197 goals in 228 games at an average of 5.25 goals per game. The first WA Footballer to kick 1000 goals in his career, the second (after George Doig) to boot 100 in a season.
But, according to my calculations, the historians have got things (ever-so slightly) wrong. I've done the sums and there's a goal missing. I've only got him down as scoring 1196 goals in his career.
1930 - 50
1931 - 81
1932 - 96
1933 - 88
1934 - 143
1935 - 119.45
1936 - 86.32
1937 - 124.64
1938 - 126.56
1939 - 100.46
1940 - 54.27
1941 - 111.41
1945 - 18
Total - 1196
It's 1936 where there's some confusion and where a phantom goal appears. In Round 12, Tyson booted 5 goals in a loss to Swan Districts, and also got slightly injured in the process, according to reports. The West Australian listed the league's leading goal scorers as at the end of the round, and there Ted Tyson sat with 59 goals, two behind George Doig.
Tyson's injury is enough to keep him out of the Round 13 clash against Claremont, which West Perth won convincingly 17.21 (123) to 7.18 (60). The match report even mentions his absence ("Although without Marinko, Tyson, Pola and P. Walsh...").
Yet, as the West did each round, they tabled the leading goalkickers at the end of each round, and there Ted Tyson was with 60 goals to his name, and increase of one from the week before even though he didn't play in the game. That one goal stayed in his tally right through the season, where he's credited with scoring 87 for the season, not 86 as it seemingly should be.
One of the curious things I guess about a league which was still moving out of its relative infancy.
The career of Ted Tyson is largely undocumented. Despite having one of the ends at Subiaco Oval named in his honour, you don't find his name bandied about too often with the great full-forwards of WA Football... which is insane.
The stats speak for themselves - 1197 goals in 228 games at an average of 5.25 goals per game. The first WA Footballer to kick 1000 goals in his career, the second (after George Doig) to boot 100 in a season.
But, according to my calculations, the historians have got things (ever-so slightly) wrong. I've done the sums and there's a goal missing. I've only got him down as scoring 1196 goals in his career.
1930 - 50
1931 - 81
1932 - 96
1933 - 88
1934 - 143
1935 - 119.45
1936 - 86.32
1937 - 124.64
1938 - 126.56
1939 - 100.46
1940 - 54.27
1941 - 111.41
1945 - 18
Total - 1196
It's 1936 where there's some confusion and where a phantom goal appears. In Round 12, Tyson booted 5 goals in a loss to Swan Districts, and also got slightly injured in the process, according to reports. The West Australian listed the league's leading goal scorers as at the end of the round, and there Ted Tyson sat with 59 goals, two behind George Doig.
Tyson's injury is enough to keep him out of the Round 13 clash against Claremont, which West Perth won convincingly 17.21 (123) to 7.18 (60). The match report even mentions his absence ("Although without Marinko, Tyson, Pola and P. Walsh...").
Yet, as the West did each round, they tabled the leading goalkickers at the end of each round, and there Ted Tyson was with 60 goals to his name, and increase of one from the week before even though he didn't play in the game. That one goal stayed in his tally right through the season, where he's credited with scoring 87 for the season, not 86 as it seemingly should be.
One of the curious things I guess about a league which was still moving out of its relative infancy.
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Quite impressive...
Just read through this and it is quite brilliant. keep it up! 
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Can someone post or tell me where I can find Claremont stats.
Top 10 games played
Top 10 goal lockers
Top 10 goals in a game by player
Top 10 highest scores
Any anything else of interest anyone has.
I'm a realitivly new wafl fan.
Top 10 games played
Top 10 goal lockers
Top 10 goals in a game by player
Top 10 highest scores
Any anything else of interest anyone has.
I'm a realitivly new wafl fan.
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Will see what I can do for you later tonight when home from work.
Here's Claremont's 200 game players in the meantime:
Darrell Panizza - 274
Ken Caporn - 273
Graham Moss - 254
Kevin Clune - 231
Lorne Cook - 230
Wayne Harvey - 218
Les Mumme - 204
Here's Claremont's 200 game players in the meantime:
Darrell Panizza - 274
Ken Caporn - 273
Graham Moss - 254
Kevin Clune - 231
Lorne Cook - 230
Wayne Harvey - 218
Les Mumme - 204
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Claremont's 16 Highest Scores
(each time they've either kicked 30 goals in a game, or scored 200+)
Claremont's highest losing score was the 21.16 (142) they kicked against South Fremantle in Rd 10, 1982.
(each time they've either kicked 30 goals in a game, or scored 200+)
Code:
YEAR RD VS G B T
1981 17 P 39 20 254
1983 18 S 37 19 241
2010 10 PT 38 12 240
1987 20 EP 33 28 226
1981 19 WP 35 15 225
1940 16 SD 33 22 220
1979 21 P 35 8 218
1986 1 SF 33 18 216
1982 12 P 32 18 210
1978 20 S 29 30 204
1984 21 P 31 17 203
1990 4 WP 30 21 201
1981 12 WP 30 19 199
1981 13 EF 30 17 197
2003 17 PT 30 17 197
1991 19 SF 30 14 194Claremont's highest losing score was the 21.16 (142) they kicked against South Fremantle in Rd 10, 1982.
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As for the most goals kicked in a game, here's what I've got so far in terms of 10+ goals in a game (bear in mind I'm missing a few years at the moment):
(Behind tallies marked '-' are where behind tallies aren't known to me at the moment)
Code:
YEAR RD NAME G B Vs
1940 16 George Moloney 19 9 SD
1983 18 Warren Ralph 16 2 S
1940 11 George Moloney 13 3 S
1991 19 John Hutton 13 - SF
1942 11 Robin Farmer 12 - SF
1943 4 Robin Farmer 12 - EP
1943 14 Robin Farmer 12 - SF
1980 10 Warren Ralph 11 6 EF
1980 20 Warren Ralph 11 6 S
1983 5 Warren Ralph 11 6 WP
1981 13 Warren Ralph 11 4 EF
1937 11 Frank Hopkins 11 3 SF
1948 2 John Stewart 11 3 EF
1948 19 John Stewart 11 3 SD
1981 12 Warren Ralph 11 3 WP
1930 15 George Moloney 11 - P
1943 17 Robin Farmer 11 - EF
1981 3 Warren Ralph 10 6 P
1937 7 Frank Hopkins 10 4 P
1983 8 Warren Ralph 10 4 SD
1938 2 Frank Hopkins 10 3 EF
1981 19 Warren Ralph 10 3 WP
1983 13 Warren Ralph 10 3 P
1941 2 George Moloney 10 2 SD
1976 12 Norm Uncle 10 2 SD
1987 2SF Warren Ralph 10 1 S
1930 21 George Moloney 10 - EF
1931 8 Harold Gepp 10 - EP
1934 7 Albert Skinner 10 - SD
1942 4 Robin Farmer 10 - SF
1943 3 Robin Farmer 10 - P
1987 16 Warren Ralph 10 - WP
1990 4 Todd Ridley 10 2 WP
2010 10 Chad Jones 10 1 PT(Behind tallies marked '-' are where behind tallies aren't known to me at the moment)
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What a way to start the year.
Also have to do somethin about the fact they have never scored over 200 against the sharks.
thanks for the stats they are awesome
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Not a problem. As for scoring 200+ against East Fremantle... it's only ever been accomplished three times:
Code:
YEAR RD Team G B TOTAL
1981 10 WP 37 17 239
2006 10 SF 35 13 223
1983 7 EP 31 18 204- Thread starter
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From the pages of The West Australian, Monday August 26, 1901:
The match in question was postponed until September 7, 1901, with North Fremantle defeating South Fremantle by 31 points, 8.8 (56) to 3.7 (25).
The match in question was postponed until September 7, 1901, with North Fremantle defeating South Fremantle by 31 points, 8.8 (56) to 3.7 (25).
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100-point wins/losses
Since 1898, there have been 290 WAFL matches which have been decided by 100 points or more. The first of these was in Round 16 of 1899, when West Perth defeated Perth 15.11 (101) to 0.1 (1), while the most recent was in Round 19 of 2011, when East Fremantle defeated Swan Districts 27.13 (175) to 11.7 (73).
Of the 290 100+ margins, here's the breakdown by team:
And here's the decade-by-decade breakdown:
And here's the 10 seasons with the most 100-point victories in them:
Here's the highest amount of times each team has won by 100+ points in a season:
And here's the same table for losses:
Since 1898, there have been 290 WAFL matches which have been decided by 100 points or more. The first of these was in Round 16 of 1899, when West Perth defeated Perth 15.11 (101) to 0.1 (1), while the most recent was in Round 19 of 2011, when East Fremantle defeated Swan Districts 27.13 (175) to 11.7 (73).
Of the 290 100+ margins, here's the breakdown by team:
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TEAM WINS LOSSES BEST WORST
CL 35 24 194 147
EF 37 14 201 178
EP 32 24 256 169
MJ 0 9 N/A 153
NF 4 1 164 107
P 25 34 153 173
PT 0 42 N/A 195
S 40 52 160 192
SD 31 35 162 164
SF 47 38 195 256
WP 39 17 210 180
Teams: CL - Claremont, EF - East Fremantle, EP - East Perth,
MJ - Midland Junction, NF - North Fremantle, P - Perth,
PT - Peel Thunder, S - Subiaco, SD - Swan Districts, SF - South
Fremantle, WP - West PerthAnd here's the decade-by-decade breakdown:
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DECADE #
1890s 1
1900s 11
1910s 11
1920s 3
1930s 10
1940s 31
1950s 26
1960s 16
1970s 28
1980s 54
1990s 42
2000s 44
2010s 13And here's the 10 seasons with the most 100-point victories in them:
Code:
YEAR #
1981 13
1997 13
2010 12
1944 11
2007 9
1979 8
1980 8
2003 8
2005 8
1977 7
1991 7Here's the highest amount of times each team has won by 100+ points in a season:
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TEAM # YEAR
C 4 1981, 2010
EF 2 1985, 1986, 2007, 2010
EP 3 1944
NF 2 1905
P 3 1968, 1977
S 5 2007
SD 6 1981
SF 4 1952
WP 3 1941And here's the same table for losses:
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TEAM # YEAR
C 5 1958
EF 4 1981
EP 4 1987
MJ 3 1916, 1917
NF 1 1915
P 4 1981
PT 10 1997
S 5 1979
SD 4 1952
SF 9 1944
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Here's the 10 lowest scores to win by 100+ or more:
And here's the 10 highest scores to lose by 100+ or more:
Code:
YEAR ROUND TEAM OPP G B T MARGIN
1899 16 WP P 15 11 101 100
1908 11 EF S 15 23 113 101
1904 5 P S 15 25 115 107
1909 9 EF MJ 16 21 117 109
1918 2 EP S 17 15 117 111
1944 8 EP SF 17 16 118 103
1905 5 NF MJ 18 10 118 107
1905 8 NF S 17 17 119 102
1903 5 NF S 17 18 120 103
1907 2 WP S 16 24 120 112And here's the 10 highest scores to lose by 100+ or more:
Code:
YEAR RD TEAM OPP G B T MARGIN
1979 19 S SD 20 7 127 -124
1984 10 P S 15 12 102 -102
1979 21 P C 14 15 99 -119
1981 13 EF C 14 11 95 -102
1979 18 EF EP 13 15 93 -103
1985 7 EP SF 15 3 93 -129
1991 19 SF C 14 8 92 -102
1980 13 S C 12 16 88 -106
1981 2 P SD 13 9 87 -162
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Other margin facts from WAFL competition (1898-2012):
1) Starting at 1 point, the first margin which has not been achieved in a WAFL match is 137 points.
2) If my Excel skills are up to scratch, the most common margin in WAFL matches is 3 points, which has occurred 197 times.
3) The most common margin over 50 points is 56 points (81 times).
4) There have been 16 instances of exactly 100-point margins. This is the equal-most common margin of 100 points or more. There have also been 16 101-point margins.
5) When the margin gets to 150 points or more, the most common margin is 153 points, which has occurred 4 times.
6) The highest margin which has occurred more than once is 164 points.
1) Starting at 1 point, the first margin which has not been achieved in a WAFL match is 137 points.
2) If my Excel skills are up to scratch, the most common margin in WAFL matches is 3 points, which has occurred 197 times.
3) The most common margin over 50 points is 56 points (81 times).
4) There have been 16 instances of exactly 100-point margins. This is the equal-most common margin of 100 points or more. There have also been 16 101-point margins.
5) When the margin gets to 150 points or more, the most common margin is 153 points, which has occurred 4 times.
6) The highest margin which has occurred more than once is 164 points.
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Finally, for tonight anyway, here's the 10 matches with the highest margins in WAFL history:
Points:
EP v SF - Rd 1, 1944:
Highest score in WAFL history. East Perth's quarter tallies were 12.8, 6.2, 12.12 and 11.8
WP v SF - Rd 10, 1987
Playing for South Fremantle that day were Scott Watters, Peter Sumich and Mark 'Jacko' Jackson, while 1991 Brownlow Medal runner-up Craig Turley laced up the boots for West Perth.
SF v S - Rd 16, 1953
Bernie Naylor booted 23.6 for South Fremantle.
SF v WP - Rd 21, 1981
Former Richmond rover Noel Carter kicked 11 goals for South Fremantle. Also playing for South Fremantle were Bruce Monteath (8 goals), Maurice Rioli (1 goal), Brad Hardie (1 goal) and Wayne Henwood (4 goals).
WP v EF - Rd 10, 1981
Combined with the above result, this meant that West Perth (to this stage of their history) had achieved their biggest-ever win and biggest lost all in the same season.
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[B]YEAR Rd TEAM OPP G B T MARGIN[/B]
1944 1 EP SF 41 30 276 256
1944 1 SF EP 3 2 20
1987 10 WP SF 37 17 239 210
1987 10 SF WP 4 5 29
1944 17 EF SF 33 23 221 201
1944 17 SF EF 2 8 20
1999 3 SF PT 33 21 219 195
1999 3 PT SF 3 6 24
2010 10 C PT 38 12 240 194
2010 10 PT C 7 4 46
1953 16 SF S 35 18 228 192
1953 16 S SF 5 6 36
1981 21 SF WP 40 18 258 180
1981 21 WP SF 12 6 78
1981 10 WP EF 37 17 239 178
1981 10 EF WP 9 7 61
2003 17 C PT 30 17 197 177
2003 17 C PT 3 2 20
1981 17 C P 39 20 254 173
1981 17 C P 12 9 81Points:
EP v SF - Rd 1, 1944:
Highest score in WAFL history. East Perth's quarter tallies were 12.8, 6.2, 12.12 and 11.8
WP v SF - Rd 10, 1987
Playing for South Fremantle that day were Scott Watters, Peter Sumich and Mark 'Jacko' Jackson, while 1991 Brownlow Medal runner-up Craig Turley laced up the boots for West Perth.
SF v S - Rd 16, 1953
Bernie Naylor booted 23.6 for South Fremantle.
SF v WP - Rd 21, 1981
Former Richmond rover Noel Carter kicked 11 goals for South Fremantle. Also playing for South Fremantle were Bruce Monteath (8 goals), Maurice Rioli (1 goal), Brad Hardie (1 goal) and Wayne Henwood (4 goals).
WP v EF - Rd 10, 1981
Combined with the above result, this meant that West Perth (to this stage of their history) had achieved their biggest-ever win and biggest lost all in the same season.
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Love your work....The stats you put up are awesome reading.
Ive got one for you that i personally would find interesting.
Id like to see scores for games
WAFL teams vs SANFL teams (Not State games ie Claremont vs Eagles etc)
Games in any format....practice or official cup
Thanks
Love your work....The stats you put up are awesome reading.
Ive got one for you that i personally would find interesting.
Id like to see scores for games
WAFL teams vs SANFL teams (Not State games ie Claremont vs Eagles etc)
Games in any format....practice or official cup
Thanks
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That's a doozy! Not sure I can answer that one, at least not for a while.
Will ask a few other people who might know the answers.
