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10 highest margins in WAFL finals history
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YEAR TEAM G B T MARGIN
1959 1SF S 26 23 179 129
P 7 8 50
1978 PF EP 27 15 177 112
SF 9 11 65
1975 GF WP 23 17 155 104
SF 7 9 51
2007 PF S 25 14 164 95
SF 10 9 69
1992 QF SF 22 19 151 92
SD 8 11 59
1928 1SF EP 20 18 138 88
SF 8 2 50
1991 1SF SD 23 13 151 88
P 9 9 63
1957 2SF EP 20 16 136 86
P 7 8 50
2006 1SF C 21 18 144 86
WP 8 10 58
1992 EF EP 24 13 157 85
S 10 12 72
2011 1SF S 24 18 162 85
SF 12 5 77
2011 2SF C 23 13 151 85
WP 10 6 66
See if this link is what you're after. It goes up to the year 2000.
http://wafootyforum.yuku.com/topic/475/WA-v-SA-Match-Facts-and-Figure-Compiled-by-Steve-Davies
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I think Slickmick's more after games between WAFL sides such as East Perth and SANFL sides like Glenelg ala the old Escort Cup games.
Edit: Good to see Slickmick's asked over at safooty.net - if there's anyone who'll have the data handy, it's Spelly over there.
Edit: Good to see Slickmick's asked over at safooty.net - if there's anyone who'll have the data handy, it's Spelly over there.
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Yes those are the games Im after.
SAFOOTY.NET is an awesome site and recommend it to any sanfl fan....From that site I have scores from 36 such matches including Port Adelaide Vs Subiaco from this years foxtel cup.
To tally up the results atm it is
WAFL teams 20wins
SANFL teams 16wins
This will change this weekend as Claremont play West Adelaide
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From the pages of the Sunday Times, May 22, 1904 comes probably the best match report I've ever read:
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Year Team P W L D FOR AG %
1899 R 8 0 8 0 163 431 37.82
1902 S 15 0 15 0 400 1079 37.07
1905 S 10 0 10 0 172 792 21.72
1917 MJ 12 0 12 0 364 1243 29.28
1944 SF 19 0 19 0 709 2533 27.99
1999 PT 20 0 20 0 1071 2298 46.61
R - Rovers
S - Subiaco
MJ - Midland Junction
SF - South Fremantle
PT - Peel ThunderHave updated the above table to include Rovers' 1899 season where they went winless up until Round 7... forfeited Round 8 and subsequently dropped out the competition to be replaced by Perth, who remain in the competition to this day.
How have we all found the stats from Champion Data this season?
WAFL site has used them I believe.
It's their first year doing it bear in mind.
WAFL site has used them I believe.
It's their first year doing it bear in mind.
Haha thats gold UFG if only the reporter of the time could see into the future hey
..as we all know North Freo have been kicking around in the amateurs for the last 100 years while Sowfs are still going strong in the WAFL!
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Haha thats gold UFG if only the reporter of the time could see into the future hey
There's some definite gold to be found in the pages of old newspapers.
One of my favourites was the report of Haydn Bunton Snr's first game for Subiaco, where the reporter mentioned:
All well and good except Bunton kicked 6.3 as a rover.
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Just out of interest, I've now got quarter by quarter scores for all matches (where available) from 1898 to 1907, 1920 to 1997, 2001-02 and from 2008 until today.
Funnily enough, it's easier to find quarter by quarter scores for matches from the 1900s than it is from the late 1990s.
Once I've got all that data down, then I can bring all the meaty stuff, like highest scoring quarters (one team and both teams), biggest comebacks based on scores at end of quarters, highest percentage of total scored in a quarter, and more. Then once I've done that it's back to entering in goalscorers for matches. That's a far more time-consuming exercise, but at the moment I've got 1929-1956 and 1964 until 1990 done, and I've got the data to fill in the missing years.
Time consuming but fun (for me anyway!)
I've also got down each teams range of scores over their history (i.e 0-9, 10-19 etc), and the percentage of each team's matches that they've scored in this range. One thing I found fascinating was that Swan Districts, with their 19 or so wooden spoons, have only ever scored below 30 on 9 occasions, and have never scored lower than 20 in a match.
Funnily enough, it's easier to find quarter by quarter scores for matches from the 1900s than it is from the late 1990s.
Once I've got all that data down, then I can bring all the meaty stuff, like highest scoring quarters (one team and both teams), biggest comebacks based on scores at end of quarters, highest percentage of total scored in a quarter, and more. Then once I've done that it's back to entering in goalscorers for matches. That's a far more time-consuming exercise, but at the moment I've got 1929-1956 and 1964 until 1990 done, and I've got the data to fill in the missing years.
Time consuming but fun (for me anyway!)
I've also got down each teams range of scores over their history (i.e 0-9, 10-19 etc), and the percentage of each team's matches that they've scored in this range. One thing I found fascinating was that Swan Districts, with their 19 or so wooden spoons, have only ever scored below 30 on 9 occasions, and have never scored lower than 20 in a match.
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What also makes that game more extraordinary was that just two seasons later, South Fremantle played in the WAFL Grand Final.
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I was thinking about the WAFL, and drawn games are very rare in this competition. I forget the last time my own team, South Fremantle played a draw and I don't think Peel Thunder have ever drawn a game.
Does anyone have the statistics as to when was the most recent time each of the nine teams played a draw?
Does anyone have the statistics as to when was the most recent time each of the nine teams played a draw?
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70 drawn matches since 1898 out of 8844 matches played (that's 0.79% of all matches played).
Here's how many draws each team's played in that time.
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TEAM DRAWS FIRST LATEST
C 11 Rd 1, 1930 Rd 18, 2010
EF 18 GF, 1905 1SF, 1989
EP 18 Rd 4, 1908 Rd 11, 2012
FRE 1 Rd 2, 1898 Rd 2, 1898
MJ 2 Rd 1, 1908 Rd 9, 1909
NF 2 Rd 10, 1906 Rd 8, 1912
P 12 Rd 5, 1906 Rd 21, 2009
PT 0
ROV 1 Rd 2, 1898 Rd 2, 1898
S 18 Rd 1, 1908 Rd 7, 2001
SD 11 Rd 10, 1946 Rd 18, 2010
SF 19 Rd 10, 1903 Rd 16, 1997
WP 29 Rd 10, 1903 Rd 11, 2012And of the nine current teams, here's how many games they've each played since their last draw:
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TEAM DRAWS # SINCE
C 11 35
EF 18 472
EP 17 189
P 12 50
PT 0 300
S 18 240
SD 11 33
SF 19 307
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A couple more stats about draws:
1) There have only been five drawn finals, two of which were the 1905 and 1938 Grand Finals. The other three were the 1931, 1944 and 1989 First Semi Finals.
2) The lowest-scoring draw was in Rd 10, 1913, when West Perth drew with Perth, 3.3 (21) to 2.9 (21).
3) The highest-scoring draw was in Rd 10, 1946 when Swan Districts drew with West Perth 18.11 (119) to 17.17 (119).
1) There have only been five drawn finals, two of which were the 1905 and 1938 Grand Finals. The other three were the 1931, 1944 and 1989 First Semi Finals.
2) The lowest-scoring draw was in Rd 10, 1913, when West Perth drew with Perth, 3.3 (21) to 2.9 (21).
3) The highest-scoring draw was in Rd 10, 1946 when Swan Districts drew with West Perth 18.11 (119) to 17.17 (119).
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Thanks Up For Grabs - I guess I was correct in saying that draws are very rare in the WAFL. No drawn games since 2010, and four teams - SF (1997), EF (1989), S (2001) & PT (no draws) having not played a tie for over a decade, and East Perth not drawing since early 2003.
It was East Fremantle's stat that amazed me - no draws since 1989! I know that the longest time without a draw in the AFL/VFL is Melbourne's 21 years from 1971 to 1992, with the Demons then waiting another 14 seasons to draw again with Geelong in 2006; although the Dockers have not drawn to date, and the Adelaide Crows' only drawn match was way back in 1994 in the wet against St Kilda at Waverley. I wonder if the Sharks have some kind of record in the major leagues, unless there are any SANFL or VFA/VFL teams that have gone longer without playing a drawn game.
It is also amazing that no second-semi finals or preliminary finals have ever been drawn.
Thanks Up For Grabs - I guess I was correct in saying that draws are very rare in the WAFL. No drawn games since 2010, and four teams - SF (1997), EF (1989), S (2001) & PT (no draws) having not played a tie for over a decade, and East Perth not drawing since early 2003.
It was East Fremantle's stat that amazed me - no draws since 1989! I know that the longest time without a draw in the AFL/VFL is Melbourne's 21 years from 1971 to 1992, with the Demons then waiting another 14 seasons to draw again with Geelong in 2006; although the Dockers have not drawn to date, and the Adelaide Crows' only drawn match was way back in 1994 in the wet against St Kilda at Waverley. I wonder if the Sharks have some kind of record in the major leagues, unless there are any SANFL or VFA/VFL teams that have gone longer without playing a drawn game.
It is also amazing that no second-semi finals or preliminary finals have ever been drawn.
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One interesting stat is comparing the WAFL and SANFL.
Both competitions have nine teams, and from 2000 onwards seven of the nine have made at least one grand final. Those missing from the WAFL grand finals this millenium have been Perth (last GF in 1978, last flag in 1977) and Peel (no finals since joining in 1997). In the SANFL, South Adelaide have not made the GF since 1979 with their last premiership in 1964; while amazingly former powerhouse Port Adelaide Magpies last GF appearance was their 1999 premiership win over Norwood.
In the WAFL six of the seven teams to contest Grand Finals have won the premiership, with East Fremantle the only team to miss out on a premiership, having not had the chance to redeem for their 2000 GF loss.
In the SANFL, however, just three of the seven teams have won premierships in the same time, with Sturt winning one, the Eagles two and Central Districts nine.
As a result there are some long premiership droughts in the SANFL; 1999 (Port Adelaide); 1997 (Norwood); 1991 (North Adelaide); 1986 (Glenelg); 1983 (West Adelaide); 1964 (South Adelaide).
The VFL/VFA is harder to analyse, due to the instablity in the teams participating; however there are some long droughts there too; Casey Scorpions (1999); Bendigo (No premiership since joining in 1998); Werribee (1993); Coburg (1989, as the Lions); Northern/Preston (1984); Frankston (Only premiership in 1978 2nd Division).
Both competitions have nine teams, and from 2000 onwards seven of the nine have made at least one grand final. Those missing from the WAFL grand finals this millenium have been Perth (last GF in 1978, last flag in 1977) and Peel (no finals since joining in 1997). In the SANFL, South Adelaide have not made the GF since 1979 with their last premiership in 1964; while amazingly former powerhouse Port Adelaide Magpies last GF appearance was their 1999 premiership win over Norwood.
In the WAFL six of the seven teams to contest Grand Finals have won the premiership, with East Fremantle the only team to miss out on a premiership, having not had the chance to redeem for their 2000 GF loss.
In the SANFL, however, just three of the seven teams have won premierships in the same time, with Sturt winning one, the Eagles two and Central Districts nine.
As a result there are some long premiership droughts in the SANFL; 1999 (Port Adelaide); 1997 (Norwood); 1991 (North Adelaide); 1986 (Glenelg); 1983 (West Adelaide); 1964 (South Adelaide).
The VFL/VFA is harder to analyse, due to the instablity in the teams participating; however there are some long droughts there too; Casey Scorpions (1999); Bendigo (No premiership since joining in 1998); Werribee (1993); Coburg (1989, as the Lions); Northern/Preston (1984); Frankston (Only premiership in 1978 2nd Division).
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Highest scoring WAFL quarters (1898-2012)
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Q YEAR Rd TEAM VS G B TOT
1 1981 17 C P 14 2 86
1 1944 17 EF SF 13 5 83
1 1981 21 SF WP 13 5 83
1 1983 18 C S 13 5 83
1 1944 1 EP SF 12 8 80
1 1986 2 S EP 12 4 76
1 1958 7 SF EF 11 8 74
1 1958 16 SF C 11 8 74
1 1955 12 EF EP 11 7 73
1 1937 3 EP P 10 11 71
1 1972 11 C EF 11 5 71
1 1985 7 SF EP 11 5 71
1 1986 19 EF SD 11 5 71
2 1943 16 EF SF 14 5 89
2 1951 9 EF EP 13 10 88
2 2010 10 SF EP 14 4 88
2 1958 10 EP C 14 2 86
2 1943 2 EF P 12 10 82
2 1973 4 SD SF 12 9 81
2 1984 21 C P 13 2 80
2 1938 14 EF EP 12 7 79
2 1938 4 EF WP 12 5 77
2 1984 5 S EP 12 5 77
3 1959 1SF S P 16 8 104
3 1953 16 SF S 15 4 94
3 1977 4 P SF 15 3 93
3 1939 19 C WP 14 4 88
3 1960 21 SF C 14 4 88
3 1944 1 EP SF 12 12 84
3 1980 PF SD EP 13 5 83
3 1979 19 SD S 13 4 82
3 1983 16 C EF 13 2 80
3 1960 2 SF S 12 5 77
4 1985 6 EF WP 14 6 90
4 1977 1 EF S 13 7 85
4 1963 21 EP SF 13 5 83
4 1984 4 SF EP 13 5 83
4 1999 17 SF SD 13 4 82
4 1939 5 EF S 13 3 81
4 1981 12 C WP 13 3 81
4 2001 19 EP PT 13 3 81
4 1940 16 C SD 12 8 80
4 1943 17 S SF 11 11 77
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50+ points in a quarter
Yeah, random stat, I know... but what can I say? I love high-scoring games of footy. Anyway, since 1898 there have been 2148 quarters where a team has scored 50+ or more.
Here's the breakdown by team;
Yeah, random stat, I know... but what can I say? I love high-scoring games of footy. Anyway, since 1898 there have been 2148 quarters where a team has scored 50+ or more.
Here's the breakdown by team;
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TEAM Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 TOTAL
C 43 75 63 100 281
EF 47 85 81 110 323
EP 42 75 66 78 261
MJ 0 0 1 1 2
NF 0 0 1 4 5
P 31 44 54 61 190
PT 2 2 5 2 11
S 36 58 69 93 256
SD 40 53 72 77 242
SF 59 95 92 97 343
WP 35 61 55 83 234- Thread starter
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Some more about quarter scoring records
1) Here's the 10 highest quarter scores by losing teams:
2) On 199 occasions, a team has kicked 50+ points in a quarter and lost the game. On only two occasions has a team kicked 50+ points in a quarter twice in the same match and lost the game. Amazingly, both instances occurred within nine weeks of each other:
3) On only five occasions have sides scored 50+ points in all four quarters of a match. The first four of these matches occurred in the remarkable 1981 season, the other in 2010.
More to come tomorrow!
1) Here's the 10 highest quarter scores by losing teams:
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Qtr YEAR RD TEAM OPP SCORE
4 1995 20 WP S 11.2 (68)
1 1941 9 SF EF 10.8 (68)
2 1981 8 EP WP 10.7 (67)
4 1984 1 C SF 10.5 (65)
4 1930 22 C EF 10.4 (64)
2 1986 1 EP SD 10.4 (64)
2 1979 8 SD EF 9.10 (64)
4 1980 13 EF P 9.10 (64)
2 1982 1 SD EF 9.10 (64)
4 1977 10 SF WP 10.3 (63)
2 1978 12 EF WP 10.3 (63)2) On 199 occasions, a team has kicked 50+ points in a quarter and lost the game. On only two occasions has a team kicked 50+ points in a quarter twice in the same match and lost the game. Amazingly, both instances occurred within nine weeks of each other:
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1982 - Round 1
EF 9.9 11.11 17.15 23.17 (155)
SD 1.8 10.18 12.25 20.28 (148)
Goalkickers:
EF: Cassidy 4.0, Kerr 4.0, Brenton 3.3, Waterson 3.1, Browning 2.5,
Pittorini 2.1, Judge 2.1, Faulkner 1.1, Purser 1.0, Green 1.0, Carrott 0.1,
Rushed 0.4
SD: Sartori 5.2, Holmes 3.6, Melrose 3.4, Nowotny 3.2, Pike 2.1,
Richardson 1.2, P. Narkle 1.2, Smith 1.1, Blackaby 1.1, Fitzgerald 0.3,
Kenny 0.1, Rushed 0.3
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1982 - Round 10
SF 7.1 16.8 19.14 21.19 (145)
C 9.6 11.11 20.14 21.16 (142)
Goalkickers:
SF: Vigona 7.3, McKay 4.3, Monteath 4.2, Cockie 3.2, Hardie 1.3,
Michael 1.1, Carter 1.0, Close 0.2, Mountain 0.1, Rushed 0.2
C: Ralph 8.0, Malaxos 4.4, Blackwell 3.0, Daniels 1.2, Farmer 1.2,
Payne 1.2, Mitchell 1.2, Kanther 1.1, Watson 1.0, Shaw 0.1,
Rushed 0.23) On only five occasions have sides scored 50+ points in all four quarters of a match. The first four of these matches occurred in the remarkable 1981 season, the other in 2010.
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1981 - Round 2
P 4.3 6.5 9.7 13.9 (87)
SD 8.5 16.11 26.16 38.21 (249)
Goalkickers:
P: Kimberley 3.3, Frost 3.0, Doyle 2.1, Baynes 2.1, W. Simms 2.0,
Shepherd 1.0, Chute 0.1, King 0.1, Rushed 0.2
SD: Beasley 13.4, Baker 6.2, Melrose 4.0, Neesham 3.0, Fogarty 3.0,
Richardson 3.0, A. Sidebottom 2.2, K. Narkle 1.3. P. Narkle 1.1,
Holmes 1.0, Boucher 1.0, Blackaby 0.5, Holden 0.1, Fitzgerald 0.1,
Nowotny 0.1, Rushed 0.1
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1981 - Round 10
WP 10.6 19.10 28.14 37.17 (239)
EF 2.1 5.2 7.3 9.7 (61)
Goalkickers:
WP: Adamson 8.2, Bradmore 8.2, Alderton 6.2, Stasinowsky 5.2,
Bewick 4.2, Palm 2.0, Fong 1.2, Dayman 1.1, J. Duckworth 1.0,
Wilson 1.0, Hillier 0.2, Rushed 0.2
EF: Couper 3.1, Browning 2.2, Lester-Smith 1.1, Carter 1.0,
Sewell 1.0, Judge 1.0, Sims 0.2, Kerr 0.1
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1981 - Round 17
C 14.2 23.4 31.12 39.20 (254)
P 5.2 9.4 11.6 12.9 (81)
Goalkickers:
C: Ralph 9.5, Malaxos 7.3, P. Krakouer 7.0, J. Krakouer 5.2, Farmer 3.1,
Kanther 2.3, Daniels 2.1, Panizza 1.1, Shaw 1.1, Moss 1.1,
Blackwell 1.0, Harper 0.1, Rushed 0.1
P: Montgomery 3.0, Johnson 2.2, D. Simms 2.1, Forman 2.0,
Cousins 1.2, Prunster 1.1, Walsh 1.0, Colyer 0.1, Rushed 0.2
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1981 - Round 21
SF 13.5 21.10 30.16 40.18 (258)
WP 3.1 5.2 8.3 12.6 (78)
Goalkickers:
SF: Carter 11.4, Monteath 8.3, McKay 5.1, Henwood 4.1, Campbell 2.3,
Vasoli 2.0, Morley 2.0, Vigona 1.0, Hardie 1.0, Rioli 1.0, Page 1.0,
Cronan 1.0, Michael 1.0, Mountain 0.2, Barrett 0.2, Begg 0.1, Rushed 0.1
WP: Bradmore 3.0, Menaglio 2.1, Dayman 2.0, Falconer 1.1,
Fitzsimmons 1.1, Anderson 1.0, Hendricks 1.0, Fotheringhame 1.0,
Campbell 0.2, Rushed 0.1
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2010 - Round 10
C 8.4 18.6 27.11 38.12 (240)
PT 1.1 3.2 5.3 7.4 (46)
Goalkickers:
C: Jones 10.1, Richardson 6.2, Foster 4.1, Crawford 4.0, Ninyette 3.1,
Weedon 2.2, Murphy 2.0, Walton 2.0, Brabazon 1.2, Anderson 1.0,
Mitchell 1.0, Chidgzey 1.0, Franz 1.0, Schammer 0.2, Orzel 0.1
PT: Battye 4.0, Murray 1.1, Holmes 1.0, Brown 1.0, Williams 0.2,
Filo 0.1More to come tomorrow!
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I know what you mean... That SF v S match was the first match with a 300+ point accurate since 1987.
Between 2000-2010 there were only 36 WAFL matches with an aggregate score of 250 points or more.
There were 44 in 1981 alone.
Between 2000-2010 there were only 36 WAFL matches with an aggregate score of 250 points or more.
There were 44 in 1981 alone.
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WAFL Scoring Trends - 1898-2011
