Wallace = 5 Years

[True Thylacine]

He's on a 5 year contract.

Anyone that thought it would take less than 5 years to create a winning culture after 25 years of a losing one doesnt belong here.

Recruiting players and turning over others doesnt create a winning team on its own. Creating a winning culture is what coaches get paid for

Wallace will get it right. He knows what needs to be done and he takes himself seriously enough to want to do it.

If he doesnt, we are doomed to another string of tier 3 coaches and others that are tryng to coach for the first time but have albino brother in laws and wives that are secretly running things

Well said

 

[GhostofJimJess]

One thing that I also note, is that Wallace has a massive ego,

Yeah I was just contemplating this very thing myself a few days ago. There is no doubt that Terry Wallace is a man very much driven by pride. Not that superficial, contrived pride that blokes like Frawley believe makes a good motivational speech, but is actually just pre-game filler. I mean real unadulterated ego-driven obsessive pride. I don't think Wallace would allow himself to achieve anything but true success in the eyes of the footy public before he terminates his service at the footy club.

It is when they start losing by 100 ...

Maybe not the best week to bring this one up Waylon. You know, West Coast in Perth and all that ...

 

[banana_bus]

Do you think maybe there was a reason behind polo's demotion?? But no lets go out an accuse Wallace of being incompetent.

Polo was dropped because he missed a compulsory training session. Thats a good enough reason for me. And dont worry about him not dropping other "Superstars" cos the word is Paddy Bowden and Krakouer will not play for Richmond on the weekend.

they better bloody not. and pettifer too.

 

[santa claws]

He drafted Thursfield and Mcguane as key backmen. One had a knee injury the other is gonna take some more time to fill that role. Anybody he drafted for this spot would still take time to develop.



Somewhat agree. I personally believe had Cogs not gone down last season he would be captain by now. Unforunately i dont think he will ever captain the club now. ATM johnson is just a body we can use to crash in at centre bounce to protect the kids from injury. Not much else.



Agree. Has to start delivering this season.



Terry has drafted two key backmen in Mcguane and Thursfield. And he has also drafted two ruckmen. Its just bad luck that Pattison is a dud while Wood looks like he will play 200 games. Hopefully come seasons end we will nab Meesen from the crows and another young ruckmen in the draft.



He has addressed list deficiencies just not all of them. The whole list was basically deficient. He has drafted us a midfield and a forward line. Plus part of a backline. Unfortunately we need more of most things still. The one area of drafting that has most disappointed me is the use of rookie picks, especially now we have a full roster. We have only recruited 2 KPP players. It is the rookie draft or late in the national draft we should be looking for KPP defenders and we havent.

mcguane was drafted as a forward i still believe he should be played up forward body type always suggested he will only be a third tall option either forward or back. thursfield was not taken in the nd he is a rookie listing and regardless of what anyone says he will never play fb on the big blokes. his strength is his motor. and his run in fact he was probably drafted because of his athletic ability rather than his footy ability.like mcguane has a good leap. if he does manage to bulk up he may play chb. i ask where is the big bodied kpd players. hes looked after our kpf stocks but we have hughes and riewoldt not from any planning just luck.
he has not taken one young ruckman apart from angus graham a rookie. pattison was drafted as a forward other wise we would have taken wood in fact blind freeddy would have taken wood over pattison if we were looking for a ruckman. the mids onballers connors and foley are the only 2 genuine inside players hes bought to the club. the lack of early draft picks on rucks and kpd is what irks me and the lack of doing something about list structure as far as continuation goes also irks.

 

[1980 So Far Away]

He drafted Thursfield and Mcguane as key backmen. One had a knee injury the other is gonna take some more time to fill that role. Anybody he drafted for this spot would still take time to develop.



Somewhat agree. I personally believe had Cogs not gone down last season he would be captain by now. Unforunately i dont think he will ever captain the club now. ATM johnson is just a body we can use to crash in at centre bounce to protect the kids from injury. Not much else.



Agree. Has to start delivering this season.



Terry has drafted two key backmen in Mcguane and Thursfield. And he has also drafted two ruckmen. Its just bad luck that Pattison is a dud while Wood looks like he will play 200 games. Hopefully come seasons end we will nab Meesen from the crows and another young ruckmen in the draft.



He has addressed list deficiencies just not all of them. The whole list was basically deficient. He has drafted us a midfield and a forward line. Plus part of a backline. Unfortunately we need more of most things still. The one area of drafting that has most disappointed me is the use of rookie picks, especially now we have a full roster. We have only recruited 2 KPP players. It is the rookie draft or late in the national draft we should be looking for KPP defenders and we havent.

On the subject of John Meesen, I've seen him play many games over the last couple of years for Norwood, and he's really struggling even at SANFL level. He is slow, doesn't read the play well and doesn't assert himself physically like a good big man does. He is NOT the answer to any of our problems.

 

[IDGAF]

He's on a 5 year contract.

Anyone that thought it would take less than 5 years to create a winning culture after 25 years of a losing one doesnt belong here.

Recruiting players and turning over others doesnt create a winning team on its own. Creating a winning culture is what coaches get paid for

Wallace will get it right. He knows what needs to be done and he takes himself seriously enough to want to do it.

If he doesnt, we are doomed to another string of tier 3 coaches and others that are tryng to coach for the first time but have albino brother in laws and wives that are secretly running things

Having a quiet chuckle at you changing your tune .

It`s OK mate ... all the old schoolers do it ... go rank , go away and think about it for a while , have a few bourbs and sit up and watch RAGE , and just settle down by the time the next day dawns .

I have started likening the job Terry Wallace walked into at Richmond as to the one those poor Russian sods had when they had to walk in to start cleaning up Chernobyl ... and i`m not taking the pi.ss

It is going to take as long ar Terry says it will , we just have to suck it up and prepare to unleash our dogs of war when the tide finally turns

 

[1980]

Having a quiet chuckle at you changing your tune .

It`s OK mate ... all the old schoolers do it ... go rank , go away and think about it for a while , have a few bourbs and sit up and watch RAGE , and just settle down by the time the next day dawns .

I have started likening the job Terry Wallace walked into at Richmond as to the one those poor Russian sods had when they had to walk in to start cleaning up Chernobyl ... and i`m not taking the pi.ss

It is going to take as long ar Terry says it will , we just have to suck it up and prepare to unleash our dogs of war when the tide finally turns

LMAO Id. Ok to get worked up until you realise without Wallace we end up with the latest version of Wayne Brittain.

You wont however see me change my tune on Miller. Merchandise franchises, juice bar shareholder. He takes a lot of money out of the club and doesnt add a lot of value back into it.

No-one can say Wallace cant coach.

We lost by 100+ points to both the Swans and Dogs last year.

Losing to the dogs made me want to shave Gaspar's head and spray Wallace with albino white paint

But we put up an effort against both of them this time around.

Young teams always play better in the 2nd half of the season. Younger legs, more experience how to play with each other.

There's just a lot of tools on this board at the minute that havent sat on a cold Saturday afternoon watching Dunstall kick his 12th against us, or KB move the full forward to full back because he has NFI what else to do.

We beat adelaide last year based on pure coaching skill and tactics, not player talent.

 

[PetePop]

every1 get off terrys back he is one of the best tactician coaches goin around. proof smashed by sydney last year then what he did with richmond to bounce back and beat adelaide. to beat adelaide he had to change our game style around and structure. so get off his back his proven that he has got a plan B OR C if A dont work.and if ya look at it this year richmond could quite easily be 3 and 1 or even 4 an 0. with our first 3 games the tiges have been in winning positions and the reason y they lost is because the players seem they didnt have the legs or knack to finish off the opposition. terrys done all he can but it's some players that have let him down this year. so get off terrys back. dont be surprized if the tiges win this week due to the tactician master terry wallace

 

[W. Smithers]

Maybe not the best week to bring this one up Waylon. You know, West Coast in Perth and all that ...

At the G, cold, raining, should limit the damage.

 

[Harvey Leadpipe]

At the G, cold, raining, should limit the damage.

Don't be too optimistic Malibu Stacey.

 

[Calcium Man]

mcguane was drafted as a forward i still believe he should be played up forward body type always suggested he will only be a third tall option either forward or back. thursfield was not taken in the nd he is a rookie listing and regardless of what anyone says he will never play fb on the big blokes. his strength is his motor. and his run in fact he was probably drafted because of his athletic ability rather than his footy ability.like mcguane has a good leap. if he does manage to bulk up he may play chb. i ask where is the big bodied kpd players.

A lot of drafted forwards often become backmen, either out of nessecity or they just are not good enough as a forward. I think Mcguane will always be a backmen. Thrusfield will play FB. Its only because he is still young that he may not currently have the physical strength to play on them. He will play on guys like Hall, Riewoldt, Fevola and Brown who are all fast, fit and strong. Whether he came in the rookie draft is irrelevent. So did Rutten and im sure when he was 19 or 20 he wasnt the massive man he is now.

hes looked after our kpf stocks but we have hughes and riewoldt not from any planning just luck.

The whole draft is luck. He picked the kids so im sure there was some planning involved.

he has not taken one young ruckman apart from angus graham a rookie. pattison was drafted as a forward other wise we would have taken wood in fact blind freeddy would have taken wood over pattison if we were looking for a ruckman.

Pattison was taken as Ruckmen-cum-forward. He has a massive motor so he wanted him to be able to run all day and be effective around the ground like Jeff White and Simmonds. I dont think pattison will make it but he did draft him as a ruckmen.

the mids onballers connors and foley are the only 2 genuine inside players hes bought to the club.

Im not a massive fan of the whole concept of an inside or outside player but anyway, Deledio, Tambling, Edwards and Connors all play inside and outside. Polo is also a bit of both. We already had Tuck, Coughlan, Krakouer, Raines and Johnson at the club as inside players. They may not all be top quality but it is a position that we have a plethora of players in. Cant have a whole list of 1 type of player.

the lack of early draft picks on rucks and kpd is what irks me and the lack of doing something about list structure as far as continuation goes also irks.

What irks me is people throwing away early draft picks on defenders. A good defender can be picked up in the RD or lower in the ND. Early picks are for players that will win you games. Your Judd's, Deledio's, Hawkins and riewoldts. And if they dont turn out as you hoped then send them down back. Like Leigh Brown. As for rucks we will get one this year. And remember its been only been 3 drafts. We needed everything when wallace came. You can only get so much every year.

 

[IDGAF]

LMAO Id. Ok to get worked up until you realise without Wallace we end up with the latest version of Wayne Brittain.



Losing to the dogs made me want to shave Gaspar's head and spray Wallace with albino white paint

Rollin ... gold as always

 

[oxx]

At the G, cold, raining, should limit the damage.

I agree.

Should reduce to match to a VFA style slog out.

LMAO If we won.

 

[Crumden]

I agree.

Should reduce to match to a VFA style slog out.

LMAO If we won.

Is there time to reinstall the cricket pitch and get the old groundsman from Morrabin to giver it a good watering?

 

[santa claws]

A lot of drafted forwards often become backmen, either out of nessecity or they just are not good enough as a forward. I think Mcguane will always be a backmen. Thrusfield will play FB. Its only because he is still young that he may not currently have the physical strength to play on them. He will play on guys like Hall, Riewoldt, Fevola and Brown who are all fast, fit and strong. Whether he came in the rookie draft is irrelevent. So did Rutten and im sure when he was 19 or 20 he wasnt the massive man he is now.



The whole draft is luck. He picked the kids so im sure there was some planning involved.



Pattison was taken as Ruckmen-cum-forward. He has a massive motor so he wanted him to be able to run all day and be effective around the ground like Jeff White and Simmonds. I dont think pattison will make it but he did draft him as a ruckmen.



Im not a massive fan of the whole concept of an inside or outside player but anyway, Deledio, Tambling, Edwards and Connors all play inside and outside. Polo is also a bit of both. We already had Tuck, Coughlan, Krakouer, Raines and Johnson at the club as inside players. They may not all be top quality but it is a position that we have a plethora of players in. Cant have a whole list of 1 type of player.



What irks me is people throwing away early draft picks on defenders. A good defender can be picked up in the RD or lower in the ND. Early picks are for players that will win you games. Your Judd's, Deledio's, Hawkins and riewoldts. And if they dont turn out as you hoped then send them down back. Like Leigh Brown. As for rucks we will get one this year. And remember its been only been 3 drafts. We needed everything when wallace came. You can only get so much every year.

i think we agree to disagree. i dont think theres been much strategy in our drafting at all i will say in the main we have targeted kids who are skillful and in the main quick.
on just 2 points yes a lot of drafted forwards become backmen and vice versa when drafting a tall kid yopu look for versatility kids who have played both ends and played them well although they may be better at one end. jack riewoldt fits this bill is an outstanding forward prospect. but has played plenty of footy down back and done very well thank you very much.
but if you look at the better backmen in the league most were drafted as backmen with early to mid draft picks. jeez glass mcguire hunter scarlett harris are just a few who spring to mind.luke mcguane was drafted as a forward ive seen planty of him as a junior and i am convinced he should play forward.the bloke getting a game at the moment who should be thrown back out of neccesity is schulz.
the other point jack riewoldt cleve hughes. we are lucky in the extreme to have them. when we down traded pick 8 we gave up any chance of getting jack.that came from the horses mouth or miller . low and behold he slips to 13.my take on the draft was hislop was going at 13 until jack slipped thats luck. what intrigues me is would we have taken someone like makenzie instread of edwards if jack did not slip.i have my doubts. its very concievable if things didnt fall our way we would not have drafted a tall player in the nd of 06. to cleve hughes a very similar scenario we used pick 8 on jon based entirely on his draft camp results. they were taking casserly with 24 but hughes slipped and we took him thank god. once again it was very likely they werent targeting a tall player at all this draft.
finally pattison was a forward. made tac team of the yr at chf. personally would not have touched him with a barge pole. useing such an early pick.he has many deficiencies and i have serious doubts about him making it at all.
thursfield you are right he will play on the riewoldts and barryhalls when they are up the ground but for the life of me i cant see him playing out of a goal square perhaps i am wrong i hope i am anyway.
finally on the inside out side players if a player is both has good skills a footy brain and good pace hes well rounded thats the type of onballer i want at outr club. if i had to choose between a player who is more inside than out i would take the bloke who is more inside. in other words the bloke who can win more than his fair share of one on ones.
whilst deledio tambling edwards are both they are not genuie inside and i would say more outside than in. connors looks a player inside foley tuck and coughlan are all good inside. cogs and tuck have terrible skills no hurt factor at all outside bit harsh maybe. edwards and connors were only taken this draft connors primarily inside edwards primarily outside.
a bit long winded so will get of.