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This is the thread for discussing the War in Ukraine. Should you want to discuss the geopolitics, the history, or an interesting tangent, head over here:


If a post isn't directly concerning the events of the war or starts to derail the thread, report the post to us and we'll move it over there.

Seeing as multiple people seem to have forgotten, abuse is against the rules of BF. Continuous, page long attacks directed at a single poster in this thread will result in threadbans for a week from this point; doing so again once you have returned will make the bans permanent and will be escalated to infractions.

This thread still has misinformation rules, and occasionally you will be asked to demonstrate a claim you have made by moderation. If you cannot, you will be offered the opportunity to amend the post to reflect that it's opinion, to remove the post, or you will be threadbanned and infracted for sharing misinformation.

Addendum: from this point, use of any variant of the word 'orc' to describe combatants, politicians or russians in general will be deleted and the poster will receive a warning. If the behaviour continues, it will be escalated. Consider this fair warning.

Finally: If I see the word Nazi or Hitler being flung around, there had better have a good faith basis as to how it's applicable to the Russian invasion - as in, video/photographic evidence of POW camps designed to remove another ethnic group - or to the current Ukrainian army. If this does not occur, you will be threadbanned for posting off topic

This is a sensitive area, and I understand that this makes for fairly incensed conversation sometimes. This does not mean the rules do not apply, whether to a poster positing a Pro-Ukraine stance or a poster positing an alternative view.

Behave, people.
 
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More evidence if needed that donny is doing what putin tell him.
 
Oh, what a shame.....

 

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Little legs and our russian apologists won't like this 🤣
Meh for this. Everyone spies on everyone. The only war secrets would be China seeing what Russia is doing then doing an 'opposite George'.

 
Yeah, Times of India report sounds credible. ......
Watch this space
China will no dount be eyeing all that oil and gas in Eastern russia, and thinking rightly that russia is going to be so week after it's illegal invasion of Ukraine that China just walk it and help itself to the gas and oil
 
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From [ASTRA TG]

Russia handed over bodies of its own soldiers to Ukraine — Ukrainian Interior Ministry

The head of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry, Igor Klimenko, stated that Russia handed over to Ukraine the remains of a Russian soldier among the bodies of the dead soldiers. This is the body of Bugayev Aleksandr Viktorovich, born in 1974, a serviceman of the 1st Battalion of the 39th Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade of the Russian Federation (military unit 35390). He had a passport and a military ID with him.

"This is further proof of how Russia disdains its people by dumping their bodies next to the bodies of Ukrainian soldiers. This is evidence of how insignificant human life is for Russia. Or maybe this is just a way to avoid paying the families. But they will have to pay anyway: we are returning these bodies," Klimenko wrote.

On June 16, the Ukrainian minister also reported that Russia had previously transferred the remains of servicemen of the Russian Armed Forces to Ukraine. According to him, this is being done, among other things, to increase the reported number of transferred bodies.

Russian Foreign Ministry representative Maria Zakharova responded to this news.

"The head of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry said that the bodies were mixed: the bodies of Ukrainians with the bodies of Russians. When his own journalists asked him to clarify how he determined this, he could not answer. I think this is already "to the doctor," she said.

However, during a telethon held on June 18, Klimenko answered journalists' questions about the identification of the bodies in detail:

"This is a must. We must identify each body, because there may be treachery, we already see from the enemy that it is not a fact that the body, for example, with those documents or in a Russian uniform, that this is the body of, for example, a Russian soldier. We are fully working on identifying and comparing the DNA profiles of the relatives of our heroes, defenders, and with the material that we have for research. Therefore, careful work is necessarily carried out on each body and on each part of the body. We are preparing a DNA profile. If we have an evidence base, investigative units are constantly working, starting from the first minute, then, of course, if we see that this body, the remains are not our defenders, not our people, if enough evidence has been collected that these are not our defenders, we, of course, will give the Russian Federation to the families of these fighters of the enemy army," the minister said then.
 
I was going to say whats the chance that Russia is mixing in bodies of Russian soldiers
The MIAs they don't want to pay compensation for. Send them to Ukraine and save on disposal costs.
 
The recent attack (approx June 18) on the Strategic Missiles Base near Orenburg has been under-reported. At this point there are conflicting arguments as to whether it was a drone attack, or something instigated by saboteurs/infiltrators. It's possible that those doubting drones are only doing so because of the distance to Orenburg & their disbelief that drones can achieve this.

Unconfirmed reports from Russia’s Orenburg region: Local channels claim Ukrainian sabotage units may have crossed in from Kazakhstan. Drones were allegedly spotted near Russian Strategic Missile Forces bases. Waiting for more info. - [NOEL Reports TG]
 

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Ukraine receives donation of Russian fertliser for their fields near Sumy.

Putin: “we don’t aim to capture Sumy region”.
Meanwhile in the Sumy region.
- [NOEL Reports TG]

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An infographic shared by [Supernova+ TG channel] for Russian civilians with a flair for capturing interesting events on their phone.

"Please spread this information to Orenburg chat rooms.."
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I've translated for those who don't know Russian:
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Taliban flag raised at SPIEF square*. On May 26**, the FSB reported that the court's decision to suspend the recognition of the Taliban as terrorist had entered into force. - [ASTRA TG]

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* SPIEF Square is a convention centre on the outskirts of St Petersburg. SPIEF = St Petersburg International Economic Forum.
** Earlier link from May re initial announcement: [ASTRA TG]
 
...according to Russian media, is that he died while cleaning his gun due to an accidental shot.

I liked this comment.
"Let me guess. 3 times in the back of the head, accidentally."
Comment from another article
“My guess is there were no high windows in walking distance”
 

"While the United States and the rest of the world have called for an immediate end to the killing, Russia's top war criminal discusses plans to seize more Ukrainian territory and kill more Ukrainians."
 
Ukraine receives donation of Russian fertliser for their fields near Sumy.

Putin: “we don’t aim to capture Sumy region”.
Meanwhile in the Sumy region.
- [NOEL Reports TG]

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Not like the Russians to leave their dead behind……

Taliban flag raised at SPIEF square*. On May 26**, the FSB reported that the court's decision to suspend the recognition of the Taliban as terrorist had entered into force. - [ASTRA TG]

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* SPIEF Square is a convention centre on the outskirts of St Petersburg. SPIEF = St Petersburg International Economic Forum.
** Earlier link from May re initial announcement: [ASTRA TG]
After losing their grip and influence on Syria (along with others around the world), Russia needed another patsy to cosy up to, and the mindless Talibans fit that bill.
 
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