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Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 4 - thread rules updated

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This is the thread for discussing the War in Ukraine. Should you want to discuss the geopolitics, the history, or an interesting tangent, head over here:


If a post isn't directly concerning the events of the war or starts to derail the thread, report the post to us and we'll move it over there.

Seeing as multiple people seem to have forgotten, abuse is against the rules of BF. Continuous, page long attacks directed at a single poster in this thread will result in threadbans for a week from this point; doing so again once you have returned will make the bans permanent and will be escalated to infractions.

This thread still has misinformation rules, and occasionally you will be asked to demonstrate a claim you have made by moderation. If you cannot, you will be offered the opportunity to amend the post to reflect that it's opinion, to remove the post, or you will be threadbanned and infracted for sharing misinformation.

Addendum: from this point, use of any variant of the word 'orc' to describe combatants, politicians or russians in general will be deleted and the poster will receive a warning. If the behaviour continues, it will be escalated. Consider this fair warning.

Finally: If I see the word Nazi or Hitler being flung around, there had better have a good faith basis as to how it's applicable to the Russian invasion - as in, video/photographic evidence of POW camps designed to remove another ethnic group - or to the current Ukrainian army. If this does not occur, you will be threadbanned for posting off topic

This is a sensitive area, and I understand that this makes for fairly incensed conversation sometimes. This does not mean the rules do not apply, whether to a poster positing a Pro-Ukraine stance or a poster positing an alternative view.

Behave, people.
 
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"19 Australian-supplied M1A1 Abrams tanks have arrived somewhere in Ukraine. Their exact location remains undisclosed."
([NOEL Reports TG])

Can't be long before the vatniks declare this is Australia provoking war in Ukraine.


Any assistance to Ukraine being able to defend itself from a hostile, fascist occupier is for some reason seen by vatniks as escalating the Ukraine war.
 


More details on operation spiderweb.

Interesting details

The drones had two bar shaped charges each designed to fire downwards.

A pro-Ukraine mole was operating a logistics company in Russia. He and his company where important in hiring drivers and moving trucks around Russia.

The control signal for the drones used the Russian cell phone network.

The drones had a simple AI, trained on museum aircraft in Ukraine that took over if the signal broke down.

When the AI is controlling the drone, the word Failsafe appears in red on the screen.

The trucks were moved into Russia via Kazakhstan, no doubt hiding in plain sight among the sanction busting traffic.


This is incredible work by the Ukranians. All without assistance from anyone.

The main cost would have been the logistics and setting everything up for the operation. 117 drones probably worth $500 ea fitted with basic explosives.

It must annoy the resident vatniks in this thread immensely that such a successful operation by the Ukranians against Russia in Russian territory was possible on meagre resources.

This is the blueprint for occupied states up against a far more powerful opponent. Civilians unharmed too, just Adolf Putin's pride.
 

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Rubio is probably the biggest snake in the grass....was the up and coming old school republican who then bent over and got appointed by Trump even after Trump publically humiliated him.
He sat back and did nothing when Vance and Trump bullied Zelensky. He has flipped over Ukraine a few times now.
Just occasionally you can see in his eyes that he knows he aligned himself with morons.
If he had declined joining this administration and sat tight until the next election after MAGA has imploded he would be a decent chance of being the next republican candidate. He took the poisoned chalice and will be tainted by his association with Trump.
 
Look up Dan Carlin's history podcast of the Mongol invasions.

Rebels in conquered cities would find their strongholds being attacked by an army driving the rebels own relatives in front as cannon fodder.
 
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