Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 5 - thread rules updated

[Zidane98]

The loser doesnt get to set the terms to end a conflict

You've finally admitted why Adolf Putin is in a bad position.


Progress tovarisch.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Article from The Interpreter discusses the effect of Ukraine's strikes on Russian oil facilities.
https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/ukraine-s-oil-war-threatens-leave-russia-running-empty.
It's at least a triple whammy against Mr Putin's barbaric war. Attriting the most important things, oil and roubles.

The russian apologists on here aren't going to like this. Happy days

 

[Mobbs]

From ASTRA:

Putin proposed to denounce the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture

Vladimir Putin submitted a bill to the State Duma to denounce the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.

After withdrawing from the convention, Russia will no longer be obliged to allow international inspectors into correctional facilities. Complaints from Russian prisoners to the European Committee for the Prevention of Torture will no longer be considered.

The explanatory note to the bill states that since 2023 Russia has had no representative in the European Committee. This is due to the Council of Europe blocking the procedure for electing a new member from Russia. The document notes that Moscow's appeals regarding the restoration of representation have gone unanswered, which, according to the Russian side, contradicts the cooperation principle enshrined in the convention.

The participants of the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture are the member states of the Council of Europe. Russia signed it in 1996, and the document came into force for the country in 1998.

In 2022, Russia left the Council of Europe after 26 years of membership.

 

[Aussie in exile]

From ASTRA:

Putin proposed to denounce the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture

Vladimir Putin submitted a bill to the State Duma to denounce the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.

After withdrawing from the convention, Russia will no longer be obliged to allow international inspectors into correctional facilities. Complaints from Russian prisoners to the European Committee for the Prevention of Torture will no longer be considered.

The explanatory note to the bill states that since 2023 Russia has had no representative in the European Committee. This is due to the Council of Europe blocking the procedure for electing a new member from Russia. The document notes that Moscow's appeals regarding the restoration of representation have gone unanswered, which, according to the Russian side, contradicts the cooperation principle enshrined in the convention.

The participants of the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture are the member states of the Council of Europe. Russia signed it in 1996, and the document came into force for the country in 1998.

In 2022, Russia left the Council of Europe after 26 years of membership.

No doubt that russia tortures russian's who don't confees their love for little legs putin

 

[Slax]

From ASTRA:

Putin proposed to denounce the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture

Vladimir Putin submitted a bill to the State Duma to denounce the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.

After withdrawing from the convention, Russia will no longer be obliged to allow international inspectors into correctional facilities. Complaints from Russian prisoners to the European Committee for the Prevention of Torture will no longer be considered.

The explanatory note to the bill states that since 2023 Russia has had no representative in the European Committee. This is due to the Council of Europe blocking the procedure for electing a new member from Russia. The document notes that Moscow's appeals regarding the restoration of representation have gone unanswered, which, according to the Russian side, contradicts the cooperation principle enshrined in the convention.

The participants of the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture are the member states of the Council of Europe. Russia signed it in 1996, and the document came into force for the country in 1998.

In 2022, Russia left

From ASTRA:

Putin proposed to denounce the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture

Vladimir Putin submitted a bill to the State Duma to denounce the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.

After withdrawing from the convention, Russia will no longer be obliged to allow international inspectors into correctional facilities. Complaints from Russian prisoners to the European Committee for the Prevention of Torture will no longer be considered.

The explanatory note to the bill states that since 2023 Russia has had no representative in the European Committee. This is due to the Council of Europe blocking the procedure for electing a new member from Russia. The document notes that Moscow's appeals regarding the restoration of representation have gone unanswered, which, according to the Russian side, contradicts the cooperation principle enshrined in the convention.

The participants of the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture are the member states of the Council of Europe. Russia signed it in 1996, and the document came into force for the country in 1998.

In 2022, Russia left the Council of Europe after 26 years of membership.

The convention is only binding on the European Council states, Russia is not party to the European Council.

Ukraine who are party to it have admitted to breaching it, but no action has been taken against them, so the whole thing is pointless.

 

[Northalives]

The quickest and easiest way for the killing to stop is for the Russians to cease their illegal invasion of Ukraine and go home.

Russia refuses to do so. It's really that simple, and any nonsense like the above is just brainrot from Russian and Tankie propaganda.

That's it. The easiest and quickest way to stop the killing is for the Russians to cease and for the Ukraine to stick to their agreements including paying the billions owed to Russia as determined by the International Courts.

What I posted was not propaganda nor was it nonsense.

Unfortunately, some cannot handle the facts because they are greatly uncomfortable so use delusion to avoid them.

The second world war was precipitated by the grossly unfair Treaty of Versailles but some still deny this. That does NOT mean that Hitler was NOT an evil bastard. What it means is that the settings were put in place to unleash his terror and the same is true of the putrid and devastating war in Ukraine. Putin is not an angel or free of guilt but to simply ignore what happened before hand is derisory.

The kidnapping of Israeli citizens on the 7th of October 2023 was precipitated because of 75 years of oppression and land confiscation by the State of Israel. Does that make Hamas's actions acceptable? No it does not but it was not something that happened just out of the blue! It cannot be viewed in isolation and it does not exonerate terrorism.

The more we make history, write history to suit our narratives, the more likely we are to repeat the catastrophic mistakes.

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

 

[1990crow]

That doesn't sound great.

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

 

[Mobbs]

Davydov:
️ Russian drones spotted over Poland: up to 10 units crossed the border and are moving deeper into the country

A Polish Air Force F-16 has been scrambled. Additionally, a Royal Netherlands Air Force F-35 has taken off

Romania, Slovakia, and Hungary have also deployed their F-16s. The UAVs have already penetrated 50 km into Polish territory

 

[Mobbs]

More likely a provocation than an attack.

This is also interesting, but haven't investigated the source:

It is reported that the Belarusian Air Force is shooting down Shaheds over its territory that are flying towards Poland

 

[Aussie in exile]

That's it. The easiest and quickest way to stop the killing is for the Russians to cease and for the Ukraine to stick to their agreements including paying the billions owed to Russia as determined by the International Courts.

What I posted was not propaganda nor was it nonsense.

Unfortunately, some cannot handle the facts because they are greatly uncomfortable so use delusion to avoid them.

The second world war was precipitated by the grossly unfair Treaty of Versailles but some still deny this. That does NOT mean that Hitler was NOT an evil bastard. What it means is that the settings were put in place to unleash his terror and the same is true of the putrid and devastating war in Ukraine. Putin is not an angel or free of guilt but to simply ignore what happened before hand is derisory.

The kidnapping of Israeli citizens on the 7th of October 2023 was precipitated because of 75 years of oppression and land confiscation by the State of Israel. Does that make Hamas's actions acceptable? No it does not but it was not something that happened just out of the blue! It cannot be viewed in isolation and it does not exonerate terrorism.

The more we make history, write history to suit our narratives, the more likely we are to repeat the catastrophic mistakes.

If russia hadn't illegally invaded Ukraine we wouldn't be in the position we are now, which is over 1 million russia soldiers dead and thousands of Ukrainian citizens murdered by russia drones and missiles.

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

 

[Satan]

Putin bored with Ukraine?

 

[CD Xbow]

Putin bored with Ukraine?

A test. A test of air defences and a test of resolve.

 

[Aussie in exile]

I wonder what our russian apologists are going to say about this?

 

[Aussie in exile]

Putin bored with Ukraine?

Because he's not in Kiev within 3 days like he thought

 

[Satan]

Because he's not in Kiev within 3 days like he thought

Trump was going fix within 24 hours though

 

[Aussie in exile]

Trump was going fix within 24 hours though

That's what he said, but probably deny it now and call it fake news

 

[Satan]

That's what he said, but probably deny it now and call it fake news

2 weeks

 

[awaremind]

That's it. The easiest and quickest way to stop the killing is for the Russians to cease and for the Ukraine to stick to their agreements including paying the billions owed to Russia as determined by the International Courts.

What I posted was not propaganda nor was it nonsense.

Unfortunately, some cannot handle the facts because they are greatly uncomfortable so use delusion to avoid them.

The second world war was precipitated by the grossly unfair Treaty of Versailles but some still deny this. That does NOT mean that Hitler was NOT an evil bastard. What it means is that the settings were put in place to unleash his terror and the same is true of the putrid and devastating war in Ukraine. Putin is not an angel or free of guilt but to simply ignore what happened before hand is derisory.

The kidnapping of Israeli citizens on the 7th of October 2023 was precipitated because of 75 years of oppression and land confiscation by the State of Israel. Does that make Hamas's actions acceptable? No it does not but it was not something that happened just out of the blue! It cannot be viewed in isolation and it does not exonerate terrorism.

The more we make history, write history to suit our narratives, the more likely we are to repeat the catastrophic mistakes.

Actually no, if Russia stops now it goes back to Cold War and prepping for next hot or proxy war. They have Ukraine on the ropes, ( or at least they think they do ) China will back them as much as needed, and I think China believes they have the west on the ropes too. So they might even be keen to pump resources into Russia to deplete the west the same way the west thought they could use Ukraine to deplete Russia .

 

[awaremind]

I wonder what our russian apologists are going to say about this?

Polish tik tokers speculating it’s Ukraine using shahed drones previously captured or bought clandestine…. To drag Europe in - makes France’s warning to its hospitals make more sense !

 

[Upstart Swan]

Polish tik tokers speculating it’s Ukraine using shahed drones previously captured or bought clandestine…. To drag Europe in - makes France’s warning to its hospitals make more sense !View attachment 2422473

Wow, tik tokers, great source! I'm convinced!

 

[Satan]

Wow, tik tokers, great source! I'm convinced!

 

[wannabejack]

Belgium are open to how the EU uses russian assets if the legal risks were transferred to all EU member states.
Can’t see Hungary and Slovakia agreeing to that.