Warne calls S.Waugh "Most selfish" cricketer he's played with
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It's a pretty ordinary rant. He says the main reason he dislikes Waugh is because he was (bluntly) dropped for the final test in West Indies in 1999. Doesn't really add much to the story apart from that, then Fev asks "Did you win or lose?" "Yeah, um we won." "So he would have been justified." "That's right."
I definitely think Steve Waugh was selfish is some respects (retiring at the start of the summer when India came down, made it all about him) but Warney is a narcissist an massive attention seeker.
I definitely think Steve Waugh was selfish is some respects (retiring at the start of the summer when India came down, made it all about him) but Warney is a narcissist an massive attention seeker.
Warne never got over the fact that Waugh was made captain over him. Warne had proven time and time again he would not have been a good captain, that he did not have the temperament for it but in Warne's mind, and only Warne's mind, he would have made a great captain.
Had taken two wickets that series at average of 134, "but oh no I'm the scapegoat".
Good on Steve Waugh for having the guts as captain to drop a player with a big name who was not performing.
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In the words of a famous philosopher, this is not news!
I don't understand why a story told countless times since 1999 is relevant again just because of some ******* channel 10 reality s**t
I don't understand why a story told countless times since 1999 is relevant again just because of some ******* channel 10 reality s**t
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Look I'll kindly disagree, I think Warne is the greatest captain Australia never had, and I think he's proven that later in his career, taking a bunch of nobody's at Rajistan to the IPL title just one example.
Warnie has problems, there's no glossing over the fact, but his cricketing brain is immense, his desire to win and ability to lift those around him largely unparalleled in Aus cricket since AB.
Ironically, similar to a disgraced AFL coach in recent years, it's the same single-minded vanity, a total and unmovable belief in his own ability, that made Warne the success he was, as a player and leader.
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So he still holds a massive grudge about being dropped for a game that Australia won?
Talk about selfish and self-obsessed.
Talk about selfish and self-obsessed.
Maybe he did have a good cricketing brain, I am not disputing that (the rest of his brain was mush though) but his off field antics meant he was never going to be captain. Plus things like this shows Warne holds grudges and that is not something you want from the captain of the Australian test team.
Warney's on a reality TV show and the fact he's self-interested is news?
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How is it 'selfish' to make a hard call on the out of form Warne for the sake of the team? It's the opposite of selfish, actually.
The article goes on to quote Waugh on the matter, which is worth pasting here.
Waugh:
"I lost a great friend but gained fortitude from the experience and learnt categorically that knowing what is right and acting on it are two different things," Waugh wrote.
"One day, I hope Shane comes to terms with the fact it wasn't about me not trusting his immense skill and innate love for the big occasion, but rather a common-sense decision based on facts and the key ingredients every leader must trust and rely on 'gut instinct'."
That Warne can't see that the decision needed to be made is actually testament to his selfishness.
The article goes on to quote Waugh on the matter, which is worth pasting here.
Waugh:
"I lost a great friend but gained fortitude from the experience and learnt categorically that knowing what is right and acting on it are two different things," Waugh wrote.
"One day, I hope Shane comes to terms with the fact it wasn't about me not trusting his immense skill and innate love for the big occasion, but rather a common-sense decision based on facts and the key ingredients every leader must trust and rely on 'gut instinct'."
That Warne can't see that the decision needed to be made is actually testament to his selfishness.
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I'll just make one more point before I Carbonaro the thread - yep, Waugh did do the right thing, making the kind of hard decision Aus selection has really lacked since arguably the middle of the Ponting era.
And although Warne would likely never admit it, being dropped made a huge difference to his career. It turned him around; people forget six weeks after that test Warne bowled us to victory in a world cup final.
Warney needed a wake up call and Australia needed him to have one.
But you wouldn't hear that from him.
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Actually I think someone holding grudges is exactly who you want in charge of your team. Again I hark back to captain grumpy AB; compare that to the 05' Ashes when they got all matey with the Poms and lost.
Look, I agree with you Warne ruined his captaincy chances with his shenanigans and the ACB understandably saw it as a reputational issue.
But from a pure cricketing and captaincy standpoint, Warne was perfect. He just has problems, like all of us.
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Also I am genuinley surprised people are reading this for the first time. Do you guys follow cricket?
When he smashed a kid's camera for photographing him smoking when he was being sponsored by Nicorette, it was the kid's fault.
When he was found with a diuretic in his system, it was his Mum's fault.
When his charitable foundation is shown to not actually pass on much money to the kids who need it, it was the media's fault.
When he was dropped for poor form in the Windies, it was the captain's fault.
When he sledged a teammate two tests into his career, it was Joe the Cameraman's fault.
Poor Warney.
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He went 1 300 in 2 tests and he dropped Lara on his way to a hundred.
He's been pretty selfish himself
He's been pretty selfish himself
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Everything you said here is 100% true. Again, sounds just like the messiah of Essendon.
It's an attitude that can help you win you a lot of games of sport, but not a lot of friends.
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I love the logic.
"I hate Waugh because he dropped me from a match once. A match that we ended up winning"
Even though my entire grudge comes from this it is Waugh who is selfish and self obsessed
"I hate Waugh because he dropped me from a match once. A match that we ended up winning"
Even though my entire grudge comes from this it is Waugh who is selfish and self obsessed
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