Warner

[PhatBoy]

Remove top 2 averages of player against an away opposition. Player suddenly has a lower away average. How incredible.

Unless you're Indian or Pakistani, you play in 8 other test nations - 9 if you count Zimbabwe.

Gee who'd have thunk that when assessing someone's quality, most people are interested in seeing how players fare across the majority of those nations

 

[webbo]

Unless you're Indian or Pakistani, you play in 8 other test nations - 9 if you count Zimbabwe.

Gee who'd have thunk that when assessing someone's quality, most people are interested in seeing how players fare across the majority of those nations

But you are being incredibly selective. If you remove his lowest two averages, his away average increases. You are just selectively removing opponents to support your point.

 

[PhatBoy]

But you are being incredibly selective. If you remove his lowest two averages, his away average increases. You are just selectively removing opponents to support your point.

Who warner?

I don't have to do anything to prove my point.
The figures are there. he has a good record in 3 countries.

Great.

 

[Ti22]

Kohli has done nothing in pressure situations, he crumbles when there is any hint of pressure and yet people on here are comparing him to Warner? You guys are very funny.

SM-G935F

 

[The Swans Blog]

But you are being incredibly selective. If you remove his lowest two averages, his away average increases. You are just selectively removing opponents to support your point.

He has no argument, he never did.

 

[PhatBoy]

Kohli has done nothing in pressure situations, he crumbles when there is any hint of pressure and yet people on here are comparing him to Warner? You guys are very funny.

SM-G935F

Sorry but didn't he make a big hundred during a big 4th innings chase at Adelaide, and then made centuries to help save 2 tests in Sydney and Melbourne after Australia had made huge totals?

Nevermind that there has literally never been such a good second innings ODI player.

Warner's a specialist at scoring the no pressure ton.


Oh and by the way, Kohli averages 65 in the fourth innings of test matches.

F***ing moron.

 

[PhatBoy]

He has no argument, he never did.

Except the argument that warner only averages above 40 in two away nations.

Yeah, I've got no argument at all.

He's really shut me up with his f***t@rded batting in NZ, India, SL, England and the West Indies.

 

[Demosthenes]

People say us oldies live a bit in the past, but I honestly think Warner is the best Australian opening batsman I've seen in watching 50 years of Test cricket. I thought he was just a 20/20 hacker ... I was wrong.

Haha you must be joking. Must not watch a lot of cricket during the winter then. He still has a grand total of 1 century outside Aus/SA.

He is certainly Australia's second best bat, but he is bog standard if you put him on a greentop or a dustbowl.

His century in Bellerive against the Kiwis in 2011 is probably the only genuinely great innings he's played, in the sense that it was on a genuinely tough surface for an Australian batsman.

 

[Mateyman]

Dont worry about records. Kohli is a better batsman than warner in all 3 formats. Got more facets to his game & picks the ball out of the hand better than any other international player going around.

Plus he makes runs everywhere he plays.

Like England...

 

[damochandler]

1 test 100 to 7 odi 100s. It should be 5 to 3 in favour of tests

 

[The Swans Blog]

Except the argument that warner only averages above 40 in two away nations.

Yeah, I've got no argument at all.

He's really shut me up with his f***t@rded batting in NZ, India, SL, England and the West Indies.

Time to take a break. The win obviously has you upset.

 

[PhatBoy]

Time to take a break. The win obviously has you upset.

I don't even know what that means.

The argument that warner is a decent bat away from home is a fallacy. sorry for pointing it out but it's true.

 

[The Swans Blog]

I don't even know what that means.

The argument that warner is a decent bat away from home is a fallacy. sorry for pointing it out but it's true.

Mmm yes, because he's shit, right? And Marsh is the saviour? Please. Your crap in the Marsh thread was a laugh a minute and you're having a dig at a player that's scoring runs consistently. Sure, his test average has taken a dip, while he's score what, 1,000+ runs in ODIs the last 12 months?

Let's not forgot your selective use of stats, which has no bearing on well, anything.

When your argument, whatever that is, actually makes sense, come back and enlighten us, please

 

[PhatBoy]

Mmm yes, because he's shit, right? And Marsh is the saviour? Please. Your crap in the Marsh thread was a laugh a minute and you're having a dig at a player that's scoring runs consistently. Sure, his test average has taken a dip, while he's score what, 1,000+ runs in ODIs the last 12 months?

Let's not forgot your selective use of stats, which has no bearing on well, anything.

When your argument, whatever that is, actually makes sense, come back and enlighten us, please

What selective stats? I don't have to be selective to point out that he's ****ing shit overseas.

I can just say it - look at the figures, he's shit overseas.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Not mentally or technically tough enough to be considered a great player as he goes to pieces overseas.

 

[The Swans Blog]

What selective stats? I don't have to be selective to point out that he's ******* shit overseas.

I can just say it - look at the figures, he's shit overseas.

Didn't realise Africa was an island of Australia. Is my geography that bad? I could be confused of course.

Looks like he's hit a few big scores there, in that unadorned island of Australia.

 

[PhatBoy]

Didn't realise Africa was an island of Australia.

Didn't realize his figures there balance out the utter sanitary napkin that makes up his record in England, Sri Lanka, NZ and India.

Someone with a freak record against left hand batsmen in positions 3-7 but a shit record overall don't suddenly become gun bowlers based on their efforts to left handers batting 3-7.

Kohli isn't suddenly a gun traveller because he's awesome in Australia when his record in other nations is fairly average either.

 

[The Swans Blog]

Also, if he's so bad, how did he manage a half century in every test in the recent Ashes? Yeah sure he didn't cover himself in glory vs NZ and PK, give you those two series. If you're going to say this and that, minus whatever the **** you're on about and claim only 1 century outside Australia, you need spec savers mate. Stats? Yeah there's more than 1 outside Australia.

 

[PhatBoy]

I'm sure he'll make another no-pressure special soon in a third innings with Australia 500 in front, or another high-pressure classic like his day 5 epic at Sydney in January during the west indies draw.

 

[The Swans Blog]

Didn't realize his figures there balance out the utter sanitary napkin that makes up his record in England, Sri Lanka, NZ and India.

Someone with a freak record against left hand batsmen in positions 3-7 but a shit record overall don't suddenly become gun bowlers based on their efforts to left handers batting 3-7.

Kohli isn't suddenly a gun traveller because he's awesome in Australia when his record in other nations is fairly average either.

He was the only Australian batsman to leave the Ashes series without being utterly humiliated.

Hardly call averaging 46 in England a loaded diaper. You still think Voges is the best thing since a sliced shit, don't you? Don't worry, Humpty Dumpty will be back in the team before India.

****ing autocorrect.

 

[Bradesmaen]

chunkychicken Warner has played the most ODIs of any batsman this year.. if he wasn't the leading run scorer you'd be questioning whether he was a grade cricketer

 

[PhatBoy]

Also, if he's so bad, how did he manage a half century in every test in the recent Ashes? Yeah sure he didn't cover himself in glory vs NZ and PK, give you those two series. If you're going to say this and that, minus whatever the **** you're on about and claim only 1 century outside Australia, you need spec savers mate. Stats? Yeah there's more than 1 outside Australia.

He made half centuries because he is a talented and experienced batsman.

Doesn't magically change his record.

 

[The Swans Blog]

chunkychicken Warner has played the most ODIs of any batsman this year.. if he wasn't the leading run scorer you'd be questioning whether he was a grade cricketer

You still have to score them and the fact that he's hit 7 centuries is proof enough that he's not a useless, clueless, dopey mother fkr, that scores only against bunnies. I recall him scoring a shit load of runs against the best test & ODI team recently, South Africa? Heard of them?


No one thinks he's Taylor, Hayden or Langer. He's a pure shot maker that splices in the occasional brain fart with excellent shot selections. He's a little bit like Ponting and Symonds, he's got the skill but not much in the way of temprament. If only he had Pontings poise and temprament

 

[The Swans Blog]

He made half centuries because he is a talented and experienced batsman.

Doesn't magically change his record.

Yeah ok let's just start chopping shall we? Ashes - doesn't matter we were humiliated. SA? Nah, our leading batsman that series, **** him he's a chump, even though they were the best team in the world with the best bowlers by a bloody big margin. **** it lets just chop his results in Australia too, leave him with NZ and SL.

Ok now he's garbage, why is he in the team?!

 

[Bradesmaen]

You still have to score them and the fact that he's hit 7 centuries is proof enough that he's not a useless, clueless, dopey mother fkr, that scores only against bunnies. I recall him scoring a shit load of runs against the best test & ODI team recently, South Africa? Heard of them?


No one thinks he's Taylor, Hayden or Langer. He's a pure shot maker that splices in the occasional brain fart with excellent shot selections. He's a little bit like Ponting and Symonds, he's got the skill but not much in the way of temprament. If only he had Pontings poise and temprament

That was not the point I was making. You were making him out to be the best player around at the moment but the stats aren't a great indicator due to the amount he has played.