Was Arafat right to reject the Camp David peace agreement?

Was Arafat right to reject the peace agreement?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 83.3%
  • No

    Votes: 2 16.7%

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Freo Big Fella

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The state would not have an army with heavy weapons, 
The state would not make alliances with other countries without Israeli approval and would not allow introduction of foreign forces west of the River Jordan. 
Israel would be allowed deploy troops in the Jordan Valley if Israel were to be threatened by invasion from the east. 
Israeli aircraft could overfly  Palestinian airspace. 
Israeli would install early warning stations in the mountains overlooking the Jordan valley and other areas. 
Palestinians would control border crossings with Jordan and Egypt along with Israeli security observation. 
The Israelis would retain management over water sources in the West Bank while approving a limited quota to the Palestinians. 
Israel would lease areas in the Jordan Valley or maintain temporary sovereignty over them for up to 25 years.
Sounds a lot like a Vassal state to me, although eny settlement would be better than continued violence.
 

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Freo Big Fella said:
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The state would not have an army with heavy weapons, 
The state would not make alliances with other countries without Israeli approval and would not allow introduction of foreign forces west of the River Jordan. 
Israel would be allowed deploy troops in the Jordan Valley if Israel were to be threatened by invasion from the east. 
Israeli aircraft could overfly  Palestinian airspace. 
Israeli would install early warning stations in the mountains overlooking the Jordan valley and other areas. 
Palestinians would control border crossings with Jordan and Egypt along with Israeli security observation. 
The Israelis would retain management over water sources in the West Bank while approving a limited quota to the Palestinians. 
Israel would lease areas in the Jordan Valley or maintain temporary sovereignty over them for up to 25 years.
Sounds a lot like a Vassal state to me, although eny settlement would be better than continued violence.
Considering more than half a century of Arab and Muslim aggression has been directed at Israel, they are fair and reasonable claims. There is no guarantee that a Palestinian state would not become a client state for terrorism, or even aggressive Arab armies, and therefore Israel must take steps to secure its security.
 

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Though Camp David 2 was fairer then Camp David 1,Arafat was presssured by the anti-israeli factions in the PLO into rejecting the agreement.
 

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Quite right in rejecting it. The Israelis offered nothing and in fact the whole agreement was little more than formalizing the annexation of the Occupied Terroritories and reducing the Palestinian area to a semi automonous ( and precious little automony at that) ghetto.
 

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Quite right in rejecting it. The Israelis offered nothing and in fact the whole agreement was little more than formalizing the annexation of the Occupied Terroritories and reducing the Palestinian area to a semi automonous ( and precious little automony at that) ghetto.
Agreed.

Accepting the peace plan would of been a total surrender of Palestinian rights, and legitimizing the occupation of Palestine.

This so called 'generous' (myth) peace offer can be seen here.

What you pro-israeli people need to ask yourselves is whether or not you believe in a VIABLE palestinian State.

Then ask yourselves this...how on earth, can you with a straight face, describe what was offered as 'viable'.

Be honest with yourself....
 

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Freo Big Fella said:
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The state would not have an army with heavy weapons, 
The state would not make alliances with other countries without Israeli approval and would not allow introduction of foreign forces west of the River Jordan. 
Israel would be allowed deploy troops in the Jordan Valley if Israel were to be threatened by invasion from the east. 
Israeli aircraft could overfly Palestinian airspace. 
Israeli would install early warning stations in the mountains overlooking the Jordan valley and other areas. 
Palestinians would control border crossings with Jordan and Egypt along with Israeli security observation. 
The Israelis would retain management over water sources in the West Bank while approving a limited quota to the Palestinians. 
Israel would lease areas in the Jordan Valley or maintain temporary sovereignty over them for up to 25 years.
Sounds a lot like a Vassal state to me, although eny settlement would be better than continued violence.
Sounds to me like an autonomous province, not a separate state. I don't think there's a country that would accept another nation controlling its foreign affairs (well other than Australia anyway). Couple this with the lack of rights to form and maintain a proper army or even have full control of its own border crossings, and that's not an independent nation.

The clincher though is the water sources issue. To allow a foreign country to control your natural resources wouldn't be accepted by any nation. It certainly wouldn't be unreasonable for Israel to request the Palestinians allow some of those resources to Israel, but to take control - I don't think so.

On the whole, I can't see that any new nation would agree to that.
 

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Lestat said:
What you pro-israeli people need to ask yourselves is whether or not you believe in a VIABLE palestinian State.

Then ask yourselves this...how on earth, can you with a straight face, describe what was offered as 'viable'.

Be honest with yourself....
A viable palestinian state to them is a Ghetto.
 
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