Was Peter Bell worth it longterm and short term

[sabre_ac]

In the end was Peter Bell worth

Picks 6,holland,sinclair and clement
Or just 6,8,sinclair


Hmmm yet to be seen

 

[goatmaster]

Yes Bell was worth the price (an outsiders view here) for a few reasons.
1. Freo got a star that more than one other wanted. No disrespect but Modra was the biggest name you guys signed pre Bell but he basically wasn't wanted by his coach. Freo went into the market against West Coast & the Roos & got him. This will help in the next big negotiation with a player as they don't have to break the new ground.
2. The players traded are not fundamental to Freo at the moment. Clement & Holland I do rate as decent players but Clement had fallen out with the club & Holland was a marginal selection. Sinclair is a top up level player has a go but is nothing special (players like him go in the 50's in the draft.
3. The draft picks are irrelevent as you have enough good kids you have done very well to bridge the learning gap.
Goatmaster

 

[Shinboners]

Bell won't win you a premiership. However, he has won two with North Melbourne, and hopefully he can take those experiences and show the Fremantle players what is required to achieve the goals of finals footy, a Grand Final appearance, and who knows, a premiership.

Freo does have a very talented list of players, and is only lacking the know-how of how to turn potential into consistency and consistency onto finals. Peter Bell will be one part of getting that know how into your club.

What can you expect from Peter Bell? He is a player of limited ability, but he gets the ball, he delivers it, and he has a professional attitude. It was an open secret that he has always wanted to return to Perth, but he still put in 100% for North and deservedly won our best and fairest. Compare his attitude to Fraser Gehrig, a player with so much more talent and yet hasn't used it and cheated the Eagles with his half-arsed efforts.

So, was it worth it? Well, we'd take him back in a minute, and for what you traded away (you already have a young list), I think you guys will be happy for years to come.

 

[Freo_For_The_Flag]

Bell will definately we worth it long term and short term. Don't forget he is only about 24. That's at least 6 years of good footy left in him. In the short term he will be a great addition providing consistency and top class skills whilst providing pelnty of leadership. He is a perfect role model for haselby and our other young guns (longmuir, pavlich, brown etc.) and as others have said he is a genuine superstar of the AFL. In the longterm he will continue to provide great leadership and be a handy player. We have plenty of players like Clement and Sinclair so they weren't great losses but perhaps Holland was, he was a bit of unknown but had heaps of talent. It was definately worth it!!

 

[Rooboy 96]

Is he worth it????

pick 6
pick 8
pick 39
jess sinclair

for Bell...

what did Bell cost the Kangaroos???

1 pre season draft pick...

I am not sure if he is worth it... but shit it was a damn good investment by the Kangaroos... not a bad return at all... you could also add 4.8 precent of two premierships...

The Kangaroos probably won... when you consider he was given up for nothing 5 years ago...

Freo probably did pay too much... he could not get a game 6 years ago at Freo...

 

[GoEagles]

It's too early to tell who got the better deal with Bell for pick 6 pick 8 pick 39 and sinclair.

It depends on how well Dylan Smith, Daniel Motlop and Adam McPhee develop/play.

 

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by Rooboy 96:
Is he worth it????

pick 6
pick 8
pick 39
jess sinclair

for Bell...

what did Bell cost the Kangaroos???

1 pre season draft pick...

I am not sure if he is worth it... but shit it was a damn good investment by the Kangaroos... not a bad return at all... you could also add 4.8 precent of two premierships...

The Kangaroos probably won... when you consider he was given up for nothing 5 years ago...

Freo probably did pay too much... he could not get a game 6 years ago at Freo...

Rooboy get your facts right first
No you didn't get 39 we still have that and got Mc Phee
Now on to the swap
Last year we had 3 out of the top 5.
So this year we could afford to trade our picks.
We needed experience and leadersip
We have all the young talent in the world.
Now the roos are the oposite they have no young talent but have leadership.
You have 2 young players who are unproven and are still a risk
We have a ready made champion.
Longterm they may be good but as i said previously we have enough young talent at the moment
Not worth mentioning sinclair

 

[Rooboy 96]

Originally posted by sabre_ac:
Rooboy get your facts right first
No you didn't get 39 we still have that and got Mc Phee

we on-traded pick 39 to collingwood for Ricky Olerenshaw (spelling?), how you got it back... I have no idea... but it was part of the deal... so get your facts right...

 

[Westy Boy]

I have this eerie feeling that in a few years we will be seeing another "freo trade away team of the ....." article.

Dylan Smith is a gun, best short at the draft. I see him stepping up straight away ala Spriggs. Motlop is apparently better than his brother.... danger signs freo ppl!!!

But your saving grace, you got a champion for it, unlike the disasters a few years ago. I see WIN-WIN.

 

[CURVE]

As good a Bell is (and I do beleive he is the best player on the Fremantle list), he wont be the success that Fremantle hope, because Freo's midfield isn't as strong as North's, therefore he will more than likely always get the oppositions No.1 tagger.

I hope he does OK, but I also hope that he gets his head smashed in by a fair Pickett bump when he come up against the mighty ROOS.

God I'm mean. Somebody should take me out back and shoot me.

 

[Rooboy 96]

Do we think Arch would drop the knee in before Bell got up... ***** I am mean too... DEVO maybe I should go with you out the back...

 

[sabre_ac]

DEVO

Your dead wrong their

Our whole mid field is by far better than roos anyday.On top of that we have premire ruckman feeding our mid field the ball,so if anything bell is going to get far more oportunities
Micheal in the ruck
Haselby,cook,fletcher,toia and Walker are better than any midfield Kangaroos can produce.
Dockers had 3 out of the top ten Midfield clearance players in the league

Superior forward line (Just)
Superior Backline (Not for long)
But not superiori Mid field

 

[Rooboy 96]

sabre_ac... you just lost all credibility in one post... bias is one thing stupid bias is something else...

 

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by Rooboy 96:
sabre_ac... you just lost all credibility in one post... bias is one thing stupid bias is something else...

EHEHEHEHEHEHE

Is not everyone on this board biased??
Are you not biased yourself?

Now once again you haven't presented anything constructive.
DEVO made a statement and I made an alternate statement.Thats what this board is all about if you hadn't noticed.
You dont agree, so who cares.Its the freo board.

Here is a challenge
Tell me why what I said is wrong with some statements

P.S
You had better start saving because pay day is on it way (oooo that ryhmed)

 

[Westy Boy]

Originally posted by sabre_ac:

Haselby,cook,fletcher,toia and Walker are better than any midfield Kangaroos can produce...

Here is a challenge
Tell me why what I said is wrong with some statements

Here’s some UNbiased statements for u Sabre .... Stevens, Harvey, King, Simpson.... would u like me to make some more statements?

This one was almost as good as your "St Kilda is going to have a poor forward line this year".

Just stirring Sabre

 

[Rooboy 96]

Westy stealing my thunder.. oh well it saved me from typing......

 

[sabre_ac]

Westy
I said saints forward line LAST year had problems.And looking back on it,they did have problems.But like then i admited then I made a mistake and am going to say it again the saint forward line did struggle but that was because of other external factors.So I was wrong when i said it and trying to stir.

Rooboy
Im still waiting on that arguement.
Tell me why the Roos midfield is stronger than the dockers.And try to back.

Plus to both of you this is the dockers board and biased is allowed

 

[Westy Boy]

Originally posted by sabre_ac:

Westy
I said saints forward line LAST year had problems.

Sabre,
Let's get Sainter, GoCatsGo, Savatage in here to determine which year you were talking about, shall we? I kinda remember talking about the likes of Hamill, Gherig etc.... but granted you said you made a mistake in saying it so fair enough!

Rooboy,
Would you like me to delete my post?

... because I don't think anyone is going to listen to me in here anyway, i mean my reasoning for the midfield debate was somehow totaly ignored

.... but you still seemed to see it

Sabre, if you would like me to leave, just tell me ok, and I won't bother yez again

 

[Shinboners]

Sabre

On *potential*, Fremantle has a very good midfield. It is underestimated here in Victoria, but when your guys have run amok, they can match it with anyone. BUT, the North midfield have the runs on the board and the premiership medals on the mantlepiece. We have lost Bell, but there will be a few new fresh legs (Rawlings, Smith) in there next season and we're expecting Harvey to take a more permanent midfield role now that Bell has left. So, that gives us Stevens and Simpson as the ones doing the digging, and Harvey, Rawlings, Pickett, Clayton, Sinclair, and King to do the running and delivery, plus one or two of our draft picks or kids to make a few cameos (y'see, it's rare that Pagan ever puts a new kid into the middle...they always start their careers in the forward pocket, or half forward flanks). Lastly, we have an experienced core, so don't underestimate that when September comes. Oh, hang on, excuse the faux pas....I forgot that your season usually ends in August

 

[sabre_ac]

Westy
Be my guest and get sainter and savage
If my memory serves me right I attacked last years forward line.Especially Hall and sainter and savage lost it.I didn't attack hamil or gehrig in the saints outfit.Look im not going to retract it again.

The Gehrig conversation was with i think bj on the eagles.He was saying gehrig was useless i kinda agreed with him.But said who knows what happens when he get home.I didn't attack Gehrig if he was at the saints nor in combination with hamill.Saints forward line with be potent next year, with everit as the focal and gehrig and hamill floating around.

And please dont go anywhere its obvious your second team is Kangaroos so it doesn't bother me.Just rember that this is the dockers board and like the bulldogs board its going to be centered on the dockers with biased but not necessarily untrue comments.

Hey Shinbonners i have been wondering where you have been.At least you give reason
In response to the midfield arguement.
Im talking about core midfield players so unless pickett is going to permenantly in the midfield lets leave him out.

Now i think i left a few players out last time
Micheal/longmuir,haselby,cook,fletcher,black,toia,walker and bell.
Now thats a pretty potent midfield
Norwich rising star average 25 poss
2 top ten mid field clearance players (cook and fletcher)
One of the fastest players in the league (walker)
Attacking mid field player black
And kangaroos best mid field player bell.
I still believe that combination is better than any kangaroos can put together

Plus we have better ruckman (Mc Kernan forward)

 

[Shinboners]

Sabre

I'll back our midfield against Freo's, but we'll never know until when we play against you guys. On past performance, we've swamped you. So chat to us then

 

[sainter]

Sabre,

I realise it is much easier to make outlandish statements in a chat room because your comments are not there for everyone else to see like in these message boards.

Like Westy just said, you were bagging the St Kilda forward line. Look, I'm enjoying all of the media hype that we are receiving but I don't necessary think we are as good as the bookies and the media are writing us up as. I just found it strange that you seemed to take particular exception to our forward line. To say that Barry Hall had been crap over the past few years was ridiculous. He has had by far his best two seasons in the past two years. And the fact is our forward line is potentially our biggest strength. We are very light on down back and the point we were making was that the backline is the area where we may struggle.

You are basically saying that Westy is lying about YOUR view of our forward line for NEXT year and that is unbelievable. You spent near on 15 minutes telling us how our forward line will struggle big time.

Personally I don't think debating with you is worthwhile anyway because you can't stick to the same story for more than one moment.

 

[Freomaniac]

Bump.... so what happened here?

 

[mike91]

Bump.... so what happened here?

How did you even find this Freomaniac?

 

[Freomaniac]

How did you even find this Freomaniac?

I have no Idea... Alcohol does funny things to the mind...