Play Nice Was that Gaffs last game for WC?

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Which one affected you more?
Depends who you ask

The jaw was late season. I missed 2 games but would have missed 6. I lost a lot of weight as I like solid food.

No ongoing problems.

Concussion was ok but I had weird headaches and "vague" spells on and off for maybe 12 months. Plus there's obviously the longer term concern.

My point though is there have been incidents recently with Howe (for example) where Cripps displayed "concussion like symptoms but passed the in game test". That was a straight up punch to the head. Off the ball. 2 weeks.

I get that consequences matter but Brayshaw was up and around today and seems in reasonable spirits. He'll miss 3 games and would maybe miss 4-6 if the Dockers were still playing.

Lots of people with the "but he broke his jaw" comments. I'm just not sure that's so much worse and ultimately surely it's the action that needs to be punished....

There have been lots of punches thrown this year including the odd head shot. Minimal punishment. But if you flush one, which is luck as much as anything, you should be stoned in the town square.

Just lots of overkill for mine.
 

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Why?
6 is about right.

Similar type of incident to Bugg and Hall. Off the ball sniping king hit.

Deserves 6.

The AFL wanting to make a statement might push it higher which would be unfortunate for him and West Coast.
A typical 5-6 weeker might be turned into an 8 weeker due to all the criminal charges bullshit thrown around by lawyers and those two flogs on 360. Hoping that Gaff's non existent MRP record loses him a week or two.
 

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I was replying to a post that implied no WC supporters knew
Yes “none” as in the general population of the crowd. The ones listening to radio or checking their phone would’ve had a fair idea but not the other 95% of the crowd who just cheered because he was getting sniped but still playing out he game.
 

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Gaff will be severly punished there's no question. I just can't understand why an experianced 175 gamer, clean slate, game well in hand , could swing and snap like that.
Brayshaw obviously beat Gaff at gold earlier in the week and Gaff wasn’t happy about it. Motive established!
 

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Yes “none” as in the general population of the crowd. The ones listening to radio or checking their phone would’ve had a fair idea but not the other 95% of the crowd who just cheered because he was getting sniped but still playing out he game.
Personally i think a few more then 5% knew as we live in a digital age. But we will never ever know apart from it looked bad and i do believe most didn't know.
 

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Dockers player on the ground.
Freo players remonstrate with Gaff and Eagles supporters cheer him.

No one in the stadium wonders why the Freo players are so upset with him.

Supporters aren’t that stupid are they?
Prepared to cut eagles supporters slack

Be a tad different next year though if they boo Brayshaw
 

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Jesus channel 7 Perth is really pushing hard the whole 'Police should charge him with assult' thing. Bit extreme imo. Will cop a big suspension which he deserves.

And claiming there's big culture problem at the Eagles because of this one incident is a bit extreme too lol.
 

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Depends who you ask
There have been lots of punches thrown this year including the odd head shot. Minimal punishment. But if you flush one, which is luck as much as anything, you should be stoned in the town square.
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This same situation is true for us little people in the real world.

Common assault: hitting someone with superficial injuries.

Aggravated assault: kick or use a weapon (like knuckle dusters).

Causing injury intentionally: kind of obvious. Breaking kneecaps for the vig, etc.

Causing injury recklessly: leaving your car in drive and it rolls back smashing some guy or other negligent act.

Grievous bodily harm: Intentionally causing injury with something more than a single hit. Like setting a trap.


Take this off the football field and it seems likely that Gaff would be looking at aggravated assault (up to 1 year in prison) or maybe causing injury recklessly (up to 15 years), but that second seems extreme for a single punch.

So the most relevant question seems to be is an assault taking place on a sporting field not an assault?

(for Vic. I imagine that WA is similar)

https://www.victoria.criminallegal.com.au/crimes/assault-offences-vic/
 

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Dog act / Thug / Out of Character

Who cares? The extra narrative is all bullshit - Throw the book at him because he messed Brayshaw up real good but the histrionics from both sides is nauseating

Why do we have to label anything about it short of just saying 'far out that punch was awful - 6-7 weeks' ?
 

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Depends who you ask

The jaw was late season. I missed 2 games but would have missed 6. I lost a lot of weight as I like solid food.

No ongoing problems.

Concussion was ok but I had weird headaches and "vague" spells on and off for maybe 12 months. Plus there's obviously the longer term concern.

My point though is there have been incidents recently with Howe (for example) where Cripps displayed "concussion like symptoms but passed the in game test". That was a straight up punch to the head. Off the ball. 2 weeks.

I get that consequences matter but Brayshaw was up and around today and seems in reasonable spirits. He'll miss 3 games and would maybe miss 4-6 if the Dockers were still playing.

Lots of people with the "but he broke his jaw" comments. I'm just not sure that's so much worse and ultimately surely it's the action that needs to be punished....

There have been lots of punches thrown this year including the odd head shot. Minimal punishment. But if you flush one, which is luck as much as anything, you should be stoned in the town square.

Just lots of overkill for mine.
I hope you are kidding with this post. " hes up and around today and seems in reasonable spirits " I highly doubt he would be , what an absolute joke of an assessment.

12 weeks no less for Gaff, no one forces you to throw a forceful punch at someones head. Its your own action , suffer your own consequences. Whether you break someones jaw or concuss them. Theres no need for it in the game. Coward punches ruin lives , Gaff is lucky the broken jaw and displaced teeth is the biggest injury Brayshaw copped.

How you can justify that action is concerning.
 

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Also for those going on about the crowd, they even showed video interviewing dockers fans after the game outside the stadium who hadn't seen the Brayshaw hit and just the Gaff/Johnson one. The stadium said they received footage of a replay too late to show at the game, I think a lot of the stadium weren't aware.
 
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