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Honest opinions needed here. I feel this guy is passed it and needs to step aside. His performance yesterday was below par for a captain. His kicking lacks penetration and his on field organisational ability is non existent.

Would have to be one of the wost captains in the AFL.

What'd i'd give to have a James Hird or Micheal Voss or Peter Bell at the club. Let's give it to Coghlan or Johnson and try something different.

DO SOMETHING SPUD... DO, DO, DO!!! FFS

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He definitely looked injured to me yesterday so maybe we should cut him some slack. But then again, if he's injured, he shouldn't be playing.

Yes, he lacked leadership yesterday, but no-one else put their hand up either. Got to be more than the captain showing the way. We've got a few senior players who should be getting out there and taking on a leadership role as well.
 

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Would have to be one of the wost captains in the AFL
As far as physical presence and influencing younger players
he is !!!!

Campbo's consistency has been a problem for a couple of years now and as such has poised a question mark above his ability
to lead by example.

We need a new Capt next year.

With Wayne getting long in the tooth it's better to let him play out
his career without the responsibility of a capt weighing on his
shoulders.

The guy has a lot going on off the field,as you do and isn't
hungry anymore-at least not like he used to be.

U can blame spud for the incapacitation.
 

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It was a bad decision for Spud to make him captain in the first place. He's not in the same league as Voss, Hird, Cousins, Buckley etc.

He's always been the kind of player that worries about stats, most of which were ineffective kicks, toe pokes, up and unders. Along with Daffy (his flatmate), he introduced to the AFL the quick kick where he throws the ball on his boot and it travels 10 metres. Its a stat, but never effective.

And he's never put his body on the line for the team. Never had a Voss or Hird injury that inspires the team to win it for their captain.

Poor judgement Spud.

Ottens must be appointed our next captain. One of the few genuine players that can turn a game for us when its there to be won.
 
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I don't believe you can lay the blame the lack of leadership at the feet of Campbell.

The last 2 weeks our leaders or those in the leadership group have let us down badly. Mark Chaffey seems to be one of the main "chip it across the backline via Cape Otway" culprits.

Having said that driving home in the car last night listening to Triple M - they interviewed Brown. He wasn't the one that needed to face the questions.

After a showing like yesterday the player that should be speaking to the media IMHO is the Captain.

Cambo where were you? Most disappointing.
 

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Originally posted by WilliamPowell
I don't believe you can lay the blame the lack of leadership at the feet of Campbell.
Thats's true but the captaincy is a good place to start the questioning.

I heard the Brown IV too WP and was embarassed as a Richmond person.

The guy sounded like he could be ****ed off but was too dumbfounded to do so.

Get plough on the line Nafan;)
 

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Originally posted by WilliamPowell
I don't believe you can lay the blame the lack of leadership at the feet of Campbell.

The last 2 weeks our leaders or those in the leadership group have let us down badly. Mark Chaffey seems to be one of the main "chip it across the backline via Cape Otway" culprits.

Having said that driving home in the car last night listening to Triple M - they interviewed Brown. He wasn't the one that needed to face the questions.

After a showing like yesterday the player that should be speaking to the media IMHO is the Captain.

Cambo where were you? Most disappointing.
William.. you're contradicting yourself. Read your first and last paragraphs.

IMH, campbell was shocking yesterday and his little short stab fifteen mile high kicks are hurting us. He puts players up the field in hopeless situations.
 
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Originally posted by oxx
Thats's true but the captaincy is a good place to start the questioning.

I agree with you there OXX - especially after he missed a goal about 40 metres out in the third quarter. There the ones Captains just have to kick. I was asking a few questions at that moment;)

I think the thing that makes it harder is when you see a Captain's game like Hird's on Saturday night - you think to yoursel how we really need(ed) something like that. Someone to do the inspirational as the rule rather than the exception
 
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Originally posted by itsintheblood
William.. you're contradicting yourself. Read your first and last paragraphs.

IMH, campbell was shocking yesterday and his little short stab fifteen mile high kicks are hurting us. He puts players up the field in hopeless situations.
I wasn't trying to contradict myself IITB. Yes Campbell is the Captain and his game yesterday was disappointing but there are 7 others in the leadership group and I reckon only one of them (Johnson) actaully showed leadership yesterday. Our senior players need to start setting an example. Look at essendon on Saturday - there was Hird then Lloyd. At Brisbane you have Voss but then around him you have Lynch, Johnson, Black all leading from the front.

Regarding my final paragraph - after a loss like yesterday's the first player who should face the media is the Captain then the other members of the leadership group not our number one recruit. As Captain who played an ordinary game he should shown some leadership and faced the media IMO
 

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Originally posted by WilliamPowell
I agree with you there OXX - especially after he missed a goal about 40 metres out in the third quarter. There the ones Captains just have to kick. I was asking a few questions at that moment;)

I think the thing that makes it harder is when you see a Captain's game like Hird's on Saturday night - you think to yoursel how we really need(ed) something like that. Someone to do the inspirational as the rule rather than the exception
Players like Hird dont fall off trees unfortunately (although he did at pick 75). It's a disgrace that Nathan Brown can walk into our side and be that much better than anyone else. He is streaks ahead of all others and thank go we have him to give us a few highlights for the year. The cats will beat us this week. We couldnt beat an egg I'm afraid.
 

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Originally posted by WilliamPowell
I wasn't trying to contradict myself IITB. Yes Campbell is the Captain and his game yesterday was disappointing but there are 7 others in the leadership group and I reckon only one of them (Johnson) actaully showed leadership yesterday. Our senior players need to start setting an example. Look at essendon on Saturday - there was Hird then Lloyd. At Brisbane you have Voss but then around him you have Lynch, Johnson, Black all leading from the front.

Regarding my final paragraph - after a loss like yesterday's the first player who should face the media is the Captain then the other members of the leadership group not our number one recruit. As Captain who played an ordinary game he should shown some leadership and faced the media IMO
I think campbell is media shy. Funny how he was the one who took the players into the private room after the collingwood victory and how he was nowhere to be seen after yesterdays debacle. We need changes and we need them fast. We cannot wait till the end of the year and be dished up crap like yesterday time and time again. The same thing happend against the saints in the wizard cup.

Campbell is passed it and it's time for the next chapter. Unfortunately we dont have enough depth in the reserves to put pressure on the seniors. God what i'd give to have leigh mathews coaching us. Sadly, with potentially 4 clubs looking for new coaches next year, richmond would not be high on the list of any potential new coaches.
 

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Wasnt it Campbell that said pre-season we were aiming for TOP 4 position this year???

Always been a fair-weather player, and now a fair-weather captain.

Plays well in a winning side when we win, goes missing when we lose.

Loves the media when we win, hides when we lose.
 

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Originally posted by itsintheblood
Sadly, with potentially 4 clubs looking for new coaches next year, richmond would not be high on the list of any potential new coaches.
Im not so sure about this mind set.

The real test for any coach is to go from obscurity to glory
and we are about as obscure as rocking horse ****.

Our list,if viewed by keener minds could be used far more effectively,something i'm sure a good coach will recognise
when initially asked to join Punt road.
 
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Yesterday would have been Cambo's first off-game in a long while. I would say the past year or two has been his most consistent of his whole career. Our Problem with leadership is who underneath him will step up and take some responsiblility. Many in our so called "leadership group" had shockers as well yesterday - Tivs, AK, Chaffey. Add to that about 14 of the 22 yesterday had 12 possies or less (10 with less than 10) and you realise we have too many passengers in our side when the pressure goes up a notch. We really have only added Brown to a side that won 1 of its last 14 games last year and that is poorly coached.

BTW Cambo was interviewed on 3aw after the game although they said Richmond players were reluctant to talk on air.
 

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Originally posted by 1980
It was a bad decision for Spud to make him captain in the first place. He's not in the same league as Voss, Hird, Cousins, Buckley etc.
I guess if Voss, Hird, Cousins or Buckley played for Richmond we would make them captain. Unfortunately they don't. However, Campbell has been one of our most consistent players over the last few years and is also one of the few real leaders at the club. While his form hasn't been up to his usual standard this year, it should be kept in mind that he is returing from a serious injury.

IIRC Campbell has already said he intends standing down from the captaincy next year (when he was given the number 17 jumper). I expect Johnson would be the most likely next captain.
 
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Originally posted by mighty tiges

BTW Cambo was interviewed on 3aw after the game although they said Richmond players were reluctant to talk on air.
Thanks for that MT, as I said I was listening to Triple M. I am pleased that Campbell spoke to someone.

However, where were the other leaders? Why Brown? Why not Gaspar, Tiv, Otto etc. the other leaders?
 

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Originally posted by 1980
Wasnt it Campbell that said pre-season we were aiming for TOP 4 position this year???

Always been a fair-weather player, and now a fair-weather captain.

Plays well in a winning side when we win, goes missing when we lose.

Loves the media when we win, hides when we lose.
A fair-weather player? Only plays well in a winning side? Goes missing when we lose?

Mate, explain to me how you can finish in the top 2 of the best and fairest 7 ****en times by only playing well in a winning side. And whilst answering that, bare in mind how **** we have gone over the last 15 years. How could he have done so well in B&F's if he only played well when we won games?

Campbell lead the club and played ****house yesterday (although 18 possessions whilst spending 5 minutes a quarter on the bench and coming back from injury aint too bad) and needs to be held accountable, but after the consistency he's shown over the last 15 years he's more than entitled to have the odd shocker. I'm sure he'll bounce back. A little support from the other so-called leaders at the club would be appreciated.
 

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ROFLMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO

Was thinking about u when i bagged him JF
and LMAO U show up.

Talk about a loyal Campbo supporter.
Great stuff.

LMAOOOO@not beind able to control your fury re Campbo.
 

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LMFAOOOOO Ox, ROFLMFAOOOO@all your posts here, classics.

People are entitled to bag him, he did let the club down yesterday, but in the large scheme of things, he is the last person we should be worrying about at Tigerland. He's been the one sure thing we've had down there for the last decade.
 

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I know but i couldn't help myself.

He had a Barry Crokker on Monday plain and simple.

Guess im just planning for a future.:D
 

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Originally posted by JohnF
A fair-weather player? Only plays well in a winning side? Goes missing when we lose?

Mate, explain to me how you can finish in the top 2 of the best and fairest 7 ****en times by only playing well in a winning side. And whilst answering that, bare in mind how **** we have gone over the last 15 years. How could he have done so well in B&F's if he only played well when we won games?

......A little support from the other so-called leaders at the club would be appreciated.
Spot on. I used to think he was a "light" player but from the day he became captain, he won me over with the way he re-modelled his game. Overnight he started putting his body on the line and showing the way to the others. I think the fact that all our other leaders are either running players or defenders who are hard but limited in skill lets us down. Look at all the good leaders at other clubs and invariably they are usually filled by skillful & hard players. Note the combination.

I think people need to let up on Campbo though.
 

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Agree, we should give Campbo support,he's our Captain.

Doesn't mean he is beyond constructive argument though.
 
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