Roast Wayne Carey - Uber-Knob

[johncitizen]

The assaulting Police charge against him was that he kicked a female Police Officer in the head. Striking her on the mouth.
The Police were called after Wayne glassed his girlfriend. Charming fellow.
Amazing he never served some time for this.

Thanks Wayne but STFU already.

 

[davywap]

Heaven forbid anyone not be 100% positive about a Collingwood player.
So far this year both J Brown and Carey have been critical of Cloke. Guess what they know what they are talking about and they were correct in their comments. For that matter Carey was correct a few years ago when he made comments about Buckley and the players and people here jumped on him then.

Cloke is one of he better KP forwards in the comp at his best. He hasn't been at his best for far too long. He has been paid for his best though.

And here comes the troll brigade, what took you and Ed so long? Oh and everyone's still waiting on yours and Wayne Kerr's evidence of all these players hating Buckley, sorry Dale Thomas does not constitute a group of players.
And as for J.Brown I'm sure he doesn't rate anyone not named J.Brown

 

[dmoore30]

I think Carey has made somewhat of a fair call if he is referring to his 2014 form but take that away and he's been exceptional... Runners up in Coleman in 2013 wasn't he...? And I'm sure he was one of the monster forwards in 2012 and was the best forward in 2011? I think Carey should've been careful with what he said. Clokey still has my support and played a ripper against the saints, I hope he continues that fine form and destroys hooker

 

[davywap]

Clokey could stop now and be a two time all australian, premiership player, club best and fairest, club leading goalkicker and all around great guy. It's a top class CV and one that anyone wouldn't mind having. He's played the hardest position on the field, hardly missed a game and carried a forward line for most of his time at the club. Carey didn't play in an ordinary team till he went to Adelaide to escape Archer and Martyn....and look how well he went there. Jono Brown was brought up in a forward line that had Lynch, Bradshaw, and any number of talented midsized and small players. He was spoilt for a while but found it a lot tougher when he was the sole banana.
I don't doubt that Carey and Brown were both better players than Clokey (though on his day Trav is probably even more menacing than the both of them) but his achievements stand the test of time. Its pretty easy to take potshots from the stands (or in this case from the media) but Clokey always gives 100% and I for one see this simply as a cheap attention grabbing shot from Carey.

This is my whole initial point, Wayne Kerr blasted the other two hacks minutes before bagging Cloke for exactly that.

 

[Axl the great]

Didn’t he beat up his Misses as well?

Yep and he used to snort a heap of coke to help him drink more alcohol at social gatherings. Has no credibility in my book as much as his muppet mates in the media make out he does.

 

[PieNSauce]

Yep and he used to snort a heap of coke to help him drink more alcohol at social gatherings. Has no credibility in my book as much as his muppet mates in the media make out he does.

What I find absolutely mind boggling is the knowledge that somewhere in the world there is a television executive whose thought process allowed him to believe that it would be a good idea to provide a forum for the opinions of someone whose ethics and moral standards are so far at odds with those of society generally. That's what staggers me and frankly I couldn't care less what his opinions are and I can't see how I ever will. Watching coverage and having to hear his dribble makes me want to puke.

 

[Vicky Park]

Sometimes we under value Cloke. He would be a walk up start for every other team. As others have noted, he is very rarely injured, rarely (ever?) reported, works hard, keeps out of trouble, takes the best defender, and gets the worst run with the umpires of any key forward in the AFL.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

And this, people, is why the thoughts of supporters should never dictate the running of a club.

So Cloke's primary function isn't to kick goals?

Many would say that's ultimately the goal of the entire team no? To win a game, we need to kick more goals than the opposition. 18 players take the field in various positions all with the same aim of kicking more goals than the opposition.

2 of those positions are called full forward and centre half forward. These two players are considered the focal points of the forward line. The full forward generally is the lynch pin. Cloke is the focal point of our forward line. If his primary function isn't to kick goals, then please enliven me on what his function is.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Heaven forbid anyone not be 100% positive about a Collingwood player.
So far this year both J Brown and Carey have been critical of Cloke. Guess what they know what they are talking about and they were correct in their comments. For that matter Carey was correct a few years ago when he made comments about Buckley and the players and people here jumped on him then.

Cloke is one of he better KP forwards in the comp at his best. He hasn't been at his best for far too long. He has been paid for his best though.

Dermie, Dunstall and Mooney have said the opposite

I believe its your serve

 

[pablo disco bar]

Wtf?? Its the truth trade him

 

[esc0bar]

So Cloke's primary function isn't to kick goals?

Many would say that's ultimately the goal of the entire team no? To win a game, we need to kick more goals than the opposition. 18 players take the field in various positions all with the same aim of kicking more goals than the opposition.

2 of those positions are called full forward and centre half forward. These two players are considered the focal points of the forward line. The full forward generally is the lynch pin. Cloke is the focal point of our forward line. If his primary function isn't to kick goals, then please enliven me on what his function is.

This is like saying that every midfielders function is to kick to a target or handpass to a teammate - it's a simplistic view of a players role on the field. Cloke's role is to create goals, whether that is through crashing packs, creating space, assisting team mates and kicking goals. This bloke is doubled and even tripled team on some occasions. He plays his role and to a very high level. To suggest he is inept because he doesn't kick 5 - 10 goals each week is a ridiculous notion. There is no such thing as a true FF or CHF in our game anymore. Long gone are the days of a dunstall, ablett or locket. Cloke would have bagged 150 goals a season sitting in the square with 1 opponent each week. Learn to appreciate the work and role Cloke plays in our team each week.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

This is like saying that every midfielders function is to kick to a target or handpass to a teammate - it's a simplistic view of a players role on the field. Cloke's role is to create goals, whether that is through crashing packs, creating space, assisting team mates and kicking goals. This bloke is doubled and even tripled team on some occasions. He plays his role and to a very high level. To suggest he is inept because he doesn't kick 5 - 10 goals each week is a ridiculous notion. There is no such thing as a true FF or CHF in our game anymore. Long gone are the days of a dunstall, ablett or locket. Cloke would have bagged 150 goals a season sitting in the square with 1 opponent each week. Learn to appreciate the work and role Cloke plays in our team each week.

What you're saying is completely true and I'm aware of that. But given the smart ass post that was made relating to my post, I chose to make a smart ass remark in response. Having said that, Cloke's inaccuracy in front of goal is still inexcusable.

 

[fishardansin]

You guys should thank Carey. It is the sort of roast a coach asks someone in the media to do. Stick some needles in him through someone else and then "be on his side" with a message to "prove them wrong".

Essendon does have two very good KPDs so I don't expect him to dominate. However, if he gets on his bike and gets that 108kg body to many contests it could be very important for you guys on such a shit wet day.

 

[jasonwilde]

What you're saying is completely true and I'm aware of that. But given the smart ass post that was made relating to my post, I chose to make a smart ass remark in response. Having said that, Cloke's inaccuracy in front of goal is still inexcusable.

Your post was given the respect it deserved.

If you think what esc0bar says is true and are aware of it, then don't write simplistic and moronic posts. It will ensure you don't receive a smart ass response.

 

[jasonwilde]

You guys should thank Carey. It is the sort of roast a coach asks someone in the media to do. Stick some needles in him through someone else and then "be on his side" with a message to "prove them wrong".

Essendon does have two very good KPDs so I don't expect him to dominate. However, if he gets on his bike and gets that 108kg body to many contests it could be very important for you guys on such a shit wet day.

Sorry, as you're not the only one to do this, but are you aware of the actual issue that the OP raises?

Think 'pot' and 'kettle' situation.

(As an aside, Cloke's been in pretty good form and was AA 18 months ago. His kicking is shit. Yes.)

 

[Axl the great]

What I find absolutely mind boggling is the knowledge that somewhere in the world there is a television executive whose thought process allowed him to believe that it would be a good idea to provide a forum for the opinions of someone whose ethics and moral standards are so far at odds with those of society generally. That's what staggers me and frankly I couldn't care less what his opinions are and I can't see how I ever will. Watching coverage and having to hear his dribble makes me want to puke.

Agree, Social standards, ethical standards and a persons behaviour have no place in our hypocritical society, all that can be waived if you know the RIGHT PEOPLE.

 

[MarkT2]

IF Carey was Right about the Players not Playing for Bucks. Wouldn’t he been Sacked by now?

At Adelaide or Dogs I think yes. At Collingwood I think no.

 

[MarkT2]

1. You say he hasn't been at his best for far too long yet he is an AA KPF in 2 of the past 4 seasons. He just missed the Coleman 2 seasons ago. His best seasons are contained in the last few years.

His career went with his age profile until the last couple of years. He has stagnated quite a lot IMO. Maybe it's the contract security, maybe its the role he's asked to play maybe its the decimation of midfield capacity - probably all of them to some degree.

2. You want him being a 70+ goal FF as one option. Yet we live in a time when FF are kicking less goals than they have since the 1960's. Last 3 Colemans have been won with totals in the 60's. Maybe your expectations need redefining

What I actually want is Cloke at CHF where he is more suited and much more able to impact a game. IF he plays FF I think that is poor coaching but in any event he should be up around 70 goals IMO. J Reiwoldt should be there too but his coach plays him poorly IMO and wants him away from where he is most dangerous. That seems to me as much about not wanting it all about Jack as anything else. Granted FF's are kicking less goals but Cloke could kick 70 if he could kick straight. As I said though, it's not what I want him doing because he won't kick 70 and we won't kick enough goals elsewhere because we aren't good enough to get it forward with precision and we have no other real forward talent other than Elliot.

 

[MarkT2]

Dermie, Dunstall and Mooney have said the opposite

I believe its your serve

Not sure what you are referring to. Dunstall agreed with Brown a couple of weeks back on On The Couch. Not sure what exactly I'm supposed to be volleying over. Carey made a comment and it has merit IMO based on the last couple of years. My point wasn't even really about that it was more about how anyone not positive about anything Collingwood is jumped on.

 

[CTCT]

Good to see Wayne take a break from banging his mates wives to mention something football related.

Shit bloke.

 

[rhys_22]

I can't believe the media took him on. After all he's done. Everytime I hear him talk I think cheating backstabbing up himself piece of shit who was as selfish as to sleep with his mates wife. Disgraceful. And then to top it off, leaves his wife and daughter, gets a new girlfriend and beats her up. How he got a job in the media is beyond me. And he wasn't that much of a player either.

 

[rhys_22]

It's pretty bad when he's not even welcome at north melbourne anymore. Says it all really

 

[gtrain23]

I can't believe the media took him on. After all he's done. Everytime I hear him talk I think cheating backstabbing up himself piece of shit who was as selfish as to sleep with his mates wife. Disgraceful. And then to top it off, leaves his wife and daughter, gets a new girlfriend and beats her up. How he got a job in the media is beyond me. And he wasn't that much of a player either.

U forgot coke head

 

[Snag Breac]

I find Carey the football commentator interesting to listen to, but I can't respect him as a person. On balance I'd prefer not to see him in the media.

 

[davywap]

At Adelaide or Dogs I think yes. At Collingwood I think no.

And nor he should be, the minute you let the tail wag the dog is the minute you fail, as will eventually be the case at those other two clubs