Player Watch Wayne Milera

[Cleric]

It's funny how things can change in a week. Last week I posted that I thought Knight could be the best of our young kids. A lot of people said that Milera was heaps more talented and would be a far better player. One week later and Milera could be a dud and Knight is a dead set gun lol.

 

[OldCrowBloke]

I just watched the replay this morning and I concentrated on him a lot to see if my "live" opinion was right. I was going to open a "Where's Wayne" thread when I found this one.

To me, he looked quite lost last night. Many times he got caught just jogging into meaningless spaces between contests. I also thought his second efforts were non-existent. I reckon that his video review this week might be telling. Clearly has a lot of talent, and potentially a big up-side, but has a lot of work to yet

 

[hey shorty]

Knight has all aspects of his game in working order, which is great.

Milera is the better player.

It's awesome to see guys like that step up, Charlie and Crouch too.

 

[Redleg Crow]

I've never understood this line of thinking. A player should be judged on whether he's good enough to stay in the squad, and then if he's good enough to be best 22. Once you're in the squad where you got picked becomes irrelevant. You're either good enough or you're not.

Because when you're pick 14 there are a lot of players you could have gone with, when you're pick 43 less so.
It's a more about our recruitment as it is the player himself. Sure, once you're on the field you draft number is irrelevant, but there is always bigger pressure on first rounders - and esp top 10 picks - because the club invested a lot of faith in him (and invested more than someone was picked in the 3rd round)

 

[Redleg Crow]

Just a thought - was that Wayne's first showdown?

2nd - last year he got 20 disposals - 5 contested - and 1 goal
http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2016/011320160402.html

 

[Carn The Texan]

I think if you look at the kind of return we've had on speculative investments like Hartigan and Cameron and the time it took for them to grow, absolutely no reason we shouldn't give somebody like Milera the same time to grow. He's a super kick for goal, he's lightening quick and he can take a mark. This thread will be (I hope) an amusing artifact in 3 years time.


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[Wood_Duck]

Yep but remember SR, WD says that about everyone!

Huh?

 

[Southerntakeover]

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you've got to back him in and get him the experience. Players don't really come of age until they've played 50 games.

In the mean time our midfield, for the first time in ever, has genuine pace from more than once player. That worries teams. Personally I think we'd be nuts to change it and get slower.

 

[Wood_Duck]

I'm not sure that the same was said about Macca early in his career?

I can recall a young Macca applying forward pressure and chasing down opponents

Thats different to putting your head over the ball.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Knight has all aspects of his game in working order, which is great.

Milera is the better player.

It's awesome to see guys like that step up, Charlie and Crouch too.

#organicgrowth

 

[VictorianCrow85]

I think we'll find Milera just doesn't have the tank to do everything required at the level we all want yet. Gotta remember he's still very young, running both ways, laying tackles etc is not easy on limited preseasons. No doubt Milera will get there, just going to be erratic performances and just because he was a high draft pick doesn't mean he's just going to come in and dominate the way someone like Talia did from the start. Very different kind of role with different levels of fitness required.

A good comparison is Cameron, last year we got glimpses of what he can deliver but he lacked the tank to do it steadily. So far this year we're seeing a higher level of consistency in his game and no doubt next year he'll get even better. I'd expect a similar thing from Milera though of course they are different types of players but I'm sure you all get hte point.

 

[Redleg Crow]

I think if you look at the kind of return we've had on speculative investments like Hartigan and Cameron and the time it took for them to grow, absolutely no reason we shouldn't give somebody like Milera the same time to grow. He's a super kick for goal, he's lightening quick and he can take a mark. This thread will be (I hope) an amusing artifact in 3 years time.


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Well it's a "we've had him for a bit over a year, how do you think he's going?" thread. No one from what I can see is bagging him, or saying we screwed up the pick, no one (or not many) are even saying he should be dropped.

Last night I think showed he has a few areas to work on (as you'd expect)

 

[Carn The Texan]

Well it's a "we've had him for a bit over a year, how do you think he's going?" thread. No one from what I can see is bagging him, or saying we screwed up the pick, no one (or not many) are even saying he should be dropped.

Last night I think showed he has a few areas to work on (as you'd expect)

Agree with all of that. He just needs time and a good team around him.


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[Southerntakeover]

Agree with all of that. He just needs time and a good team around him.


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And importantly the confidence of the club telling him 'you're our guy, we rate you, we're backing you in' and making an investment in him by giving him the games.

 

[the universal]

Undeniably, the boy has things to improve on - but a 'where is he at?' thread is awfully premature taking into account he played his best game (or one of) only a fortnight ago. Persist at all costs.

 

[Hird Is Scum]

Because when you're pick 14 there are a lot of players you could have gone with, when you're pick 43 less so.
It's a more about our recruitment as it is the player himself. Sure, once you're on the field you draft number is irrelevant, but there is always bigger pressure on first rounders - and esp top 10 picks - because the club invested a lot of faith in him (and invested more than someone was picked in the 3rd round)

So judge the recruiters on that, but I don't see how you can judge a player differently based on where our recruiters chose to take him. Every player should be judged solely on their football, regardless of name, fame, draft order or what we gave up in a trade. All of that is completely out of the players control.

 

[Go the Guts]

Not sure if it's been mentioned but he squibbed a contest last night which wasn't good to see. Has got the skills but has a lot of growing and hardening up to do in the next few years.

 

[Redleg Crow]

So judge the recruiters on that, but I don't see how you can judge a player differently based on where our recruiters chose to take him. Every player should be judged solely on their football, regardless of name, fame, draft order or what we gave up in a trade. All of that is completely out of the players control.

Well it makes sense to judge that within a thread talking about that player. Everyone knows the top picks come with greater expectations - and part of selecting them is how they will cope with that expectation.

 

[Cleric]

The club is going to come under more pressure for Doedee than Milera.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Just a thought - was that Wayne's first showdown?

No - he had 20 possessions in round 2 last year and played really well that day we flogged them

 

[kulak]

The Showdown in round 2 was the only game last year he got more than 12 possessions.

This year he already had 23 vs GWS and 16 vs Hawthorn.

Thought he was a bit shell shocked by the intensity at the start of last night's game. Let's put him in that situation again, with another year in the gym, and I think he will be improved.

This year, starting from pre-season he has already been more consistently involved with the game both offensively and defensively than last year, as you'd expect as he matures.

If you'd like to compare against similar picks from the 2015 draft:
8 - Callum Ah Chee (Gold Coast)
9 - Sam Weideman (Melbourne)
10 - Harry McKay (Carlton)
11 - Wayne Milera (Adelaide)
12 - Charlie Curnow (Carlton)
13 - Matthew Kennedy (GWS Academy)
14 - Eric Hipwood (Brisbane Academy)

I think he compares pretty well so far.

 

[Redleg Crow]

The Showdown in round 2 was the only game last year he got more than 12 possessions.

This year he already had 23 vs GWS and 16 vs Hawthorn.

Thought he was a bit shell shocked by the intensity at the start of last night's game. Let's put him in that situation again, with another year in the gym, and I think he will be improved.

This year, starting from pre-season he has already been more consistently involved with the game both offensively and defensively than last year, as you'd expect as he matures.

If you'd like to compare against similar picks from the 2015 draft:
8 - Callum Ah Chee (Gold Coast)
9 - Sam Weideman (Melbourne)
10 - Harry McKay (Carlton)
11 - Wayne Milera (Adelaide)
12 - Charlie Curnow (Carlton)
13 - Matthew Kennedy (GWS Academy)
14 - Eric Hipwood (Brisbane Academy)

I think he compares pretty well so far.

Yep, he looks good in that list.

 

[Brentmeister]

Leave the kid alone. He's played barely 10 games and is skinny as a rake. Not the first kid to be overwhelmed by the showdown intensity. Good learning experience. Back him in. Kid's got talent.

 

[skittlebrew]

Leave the kid alone. He's played barely 10 games and is skinny as a rake. Not the first kid to be overwhelmed by the showdown intensity. Good learning experience. Back him in. Kid's got talent.

Exactly, he's not even 20 years old ffs.

 

[SydCrow]

He was one of our best TWO WEEKS AGO.