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Player Watch Wayne Milera

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FantasticShirt said:
He's a rake of a kid in his second year. We needed outside players because we were overloaded with inside grunt. Finally get one and people unload shit.

Great work.
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Yeah that's way off the mark

Being outside doesn't mean soft, and 2nd year doesn't mean soft, and being a whippet doesn't mean soft

He needs to work on that side of his game. A lot.
 

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Sanders said:
Your words - do you want to revise them?
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Actually, I might revise them. "Not a dud" is my understated way of saying I think he's good. Like "Sloaney goes alright". I can see your point about the language, but Lever is certainly good enough for it not to have been a bad pick.
 
dogs105 said:
No.

There's no justification for saying Ogilvie had a bad year with the Lever pick.
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You're very confused, as is often the case when you're forced to talk actual footy related subjects

Mike was suggesting the ogilvie era wasn't all that crash hot and you pointed to Lever as some great shining success that outweighed everything

When asked how good you thought he was you replied "not a dud" as if that was even a vaguely cogent response to the context you responded to

Lever is at present maybe par for his draft cost, but sitting on the edge and could go either way

I don't think Rendell is worried too much about his record just yet.
 
Sanders said:
You're very confused, as is often the case when you're forced to talk actual footy related subjects

Mike was suggesting the ogilvie era wasn't all that crash hot and you pointed to Lever as some great shining success that outweighed everything

When asked how good you thought he was you replied "not a dud" as if that was even a vaguely cogent response to the context you responded to

Lever is at present maybe par for his draft cost, but sitting on the edge and could go either way

I don't think Rendell is worried too much about his record just yet.
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See other post. I agree my language was confusing/confused.
 
Sanders said:
You're very confused, as is often the case when you're forced to talk actual footy related subjects

Mike was suggesting the ogilvie era wasn't all that crash hot and you pointed to Lever as some great shining success that outweighed everything

When asked how good you thought he was you replied "not a dud" as if that was even a vaguely cogent response to the context you responded to

Lever is at present maybe par for his draft cost, but sitting on the edge and could go either way

I don't think Rendell is worried too much about his record just yet.
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And I didn't think Lever was a giant success that outweighed anything. I just asked whether he thought Lever or Gallucci was the bad pick to make Ogilvie's "two bad years".

Don't feel you need to force me to talk about footy. Feel free to ignore my posts - especially if you agree that Ogilvie has had "2 bad years".
 
Will be an absolute gun one day. I can see why the club are trying to get games into him while they can like they did with Cameron, Atkins, Knight etc, but....

...............right now he's not good enough for AFL level and the team is carrying him. Against Port and Hawthorn he made a number of costly mistakes and lacked the necessary attack on the ball for the elite level. Needs another 2-3 pre-seasons in him before we will really see his potential emerge.

Right now he's just a slightly younger David Mackay.
 
He was more than capable of throwing his body in at SANFL level, so the mindset is there somewhere.
 
Big confidence player. All in the head with Milera. Given some time to develop a bigger body and gain some mental maturity he should click. Will then break lines like a hot knife through butter
 
He needs a break. His skills and decision making are there... sometimes. Doesn't get enough of it or do enough with it at the moment to earn his spot. Needs a week (or two) off to hit some big numbers in the SANFL before coming back in.

He's not a "non-statistical player"/filling a role that anyone on the outer couldn't do equally well while he grows.
 
The thing is Milera is not going to be a big possession winner, sending him to the sanfl to achieve that is a pointless exercise.

He is our preferred starting wing, as much as I hang shit on Mackay he doesn't start, he comes on half way through the first and gets more game time as the game goes on.

This tells me we want Milera to be the man but know he's not quite ready, but the long game is a Milera with games under his belt. We gave him 3 years starting his second year because we know.

Put up with the quiet times especially whilst we are winning because it will do us good.
 

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Squiba said:
Big confidence player. All in the head with Milera. Given some time to develop a bigger body and gain some mental maturity he should click. Will then break lines like a hot knife through butter
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His body language is terrible after a stuff up. Doesn't just drop his head, his shoulders go down as well.

Definitely a confidence player and very young, but I worry about his resilience. He had enough tricks to cruise up to this level, has he got the mental capacity to take it to AFL standard? I'm not sure.
 
Milera had a good last quarter I thought, when we needed to get back on top of Essendon. Seemed to have a renewed sense of confidence he hadn't had for the last 7 quarters of footy he'd played.

Just needs to work harder around the ground, particularly defensively
 
Seems to have lost confidence since we picked him up. He was a jet with Centrals and the few times I saw him he had no problem putting his head over the ball and his body on the line. Now he's not doing those things often enough at AFL level. There was one occasion last night where he could have come in from the side and taken front spot and he chose no to. Resulted in a mark and goal to McDonald-Tipunwingi. Think it was 1st q, but might have been 3rd. I need to check the replay to see the angles as maybe he was too far away to influence the contest, but that's what it looked like from side on.
I'd drop him to the 2s to regain confidence. No passengers if we want that premiership.
 
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beartoo said:
Seems to have lost confidence since we picked him up. He was a jet with Centrals and the few times I saw him he had no problem putting his head over the ball and his body on the line. Now he's not doing those things often enough at AFL level. There was one occasion last night where he could have come in from the side and taken front spot and he chose no to. Resulted in a mark and goal to McDonald-Tipunwingi. Think it was 1st q, but might have been 3rd. I need to check the replay to see the angles as maybe he was too far away to influence the contest, but that's what it looked like from side on.
I'd drop him to the 2s to regain confidence. No passengers if we want that premiership.
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Yep, and another where he could have closed down Heppell but ran around him as if he was waiting for a handball.
 

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Redleg Crow said:
In the last quarter he played the way we want him to play.
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Milera, Knight, Douglas and Mackay all got a bit of the ball in the last quarter after pretty forgetable games.
 
Drugs Are Bad Mackay? said:
Milera, Knight, Douglas and Mackay all got a bit of the ball in the last quarter after pretty forgetable games.
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For applying pressure, tackling and doing something else rather than standing off the opposition id have Knight, Douglas and Mackay over Milera without a thought.

In this area Milera is poo, the excuses because he's 19 need to stop.

In the finals game against the Swans we were mauled in this area.

We don't need another spectator on the field.
 
Big Gazoongas said:
For applying pressure, tackling and doing something else rather than standing off the opposition id have Knight, Douglas and Mackay over Milera without a thought.

In this area Milera is poo, the excuses because he's 19 need to stop.

In the finals game against the Swans we were mauled in this area.

We don't need another spectator on the field.
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He didn't play in the Sydney final. Perhaps we need to have a look at some of the players who did play in that final though.

Few would expect Milera to be the finished product instantly.
 

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