What about if i refuse a regular flu vaccine at work. Grounds for dismissal? How far do you want to go with the rights of a corporate over the individual. Do I believe people should take it? Yes. But I don't believe in forcing people, which is exactly what we are doing
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What about if i refuse a regular flu vaccine at work. Grounds for dismissal? How far do you want to go with the rights of a corporate over the individual. Do I believe people should take it? Yes. But I don't believe in forcing people, which is exactly what we are doing
StCicatriz
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This is what has convinced alot of the mining crew here in Perth
100k fines for Hotels also does the trick. Just remember, fines are for poor people. The uber rich, politicians etc. they will continue to travel in their private jets, go to parties maskless whether they have the vacc or not. It's the slave class who have to follow the rules.
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The West Australian understands three unvaccinated Eagles players are still working through the process with the club, which confirmed not all of the squad have rolled the arm up yet.
“Our players, who are currently on leave from the club, understand the AFL’s mandate and we are confident they will all be fully vaccinated by the required deadlines so they can continue to train and play.
“Our players, who are currently on leave from the club, understand the AFL’s mandate and we are confident they will all be fully vaccinated by the required deadlines so they can continue to train and play.
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It’s not fear. It’s social responsibility. Just a shame some people are more selfish and self-centred than ever.
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If you work in aged care, yes, you can be dismissed if you don’t have a flu jab. Are you just now realising there are a variety of health requirements in workplaces depending on the risk profile?
Seems like the EPL player Vax rate remains quite low.
Premier League reveals 68% of players are fully vaccinated against Covid
The Premier League says that 68% of its players are fully vaccinated against Covid-19 after concerns over a lack of take-up
www.theguardian.com
Upgrayedd
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Lots of industry's, yeah no flu jab is dismissal, this had been a thing for years.
Not lot's of. A narrow bunch of fields. Most related to medical or personal care. We are talking every field here. And not just that, but massively expanded govt power that we must take on faith will be repealed. It's amazing just how naive people can be. It took all of three seconds for WA police to use Covid safe app to track suspects. What does that have to do w Covid? The other powers will be used the same way in due time.
It will create furore. Darlings not a big name, not really. But, a big name might speak out with their Contrarian (and therefore problematic) view. This is already playing out in NFL and NBA.
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Every workplace has some form of health and safety requirement, from the basic (don’t come into work sick) to more specific (flu jabs in aged care). Are you surprised that in a global pandemic, there are broader requirements in place to try and end it?
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I do a whole heap of heritage survey and this has been a massive motivation for the Indigenous guys.
Have their seasons continued nonstop without those guys?
If one doesn't want to follow the rules then there are plenty of players lined up to take their place.
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Away from the selfish individualistic perspective, Dmitriy - give me a reason on the societal level why we should not get the vaccine. In terms of the overall health and well being of the population. I await your distorted response.
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It's amazing what someone will and won't believe once they've allowed themselves to go down covid and anti-vaccine rabbit holes.
Wants someone else to put their life at risk for some abstract possibility that it may help them - calls the OTHER person selfish, yeah righto.
Forward Press
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Vaccinations controlling the spread of a contagious disease are now dubbed an 'abstract possibility' - I thought I heard it all. Thanks for the hearty laughs this morning FBI.
Depends on the rules of your workplace. AFL players already have a lot of extra rules that normal people don't, they can be fined for anything they do in their downtime, they have to tell the AFL where they are staying, they have to submit to regular testing, they consent to contact on the field etc and as a result they get paid very highly.
A random person in a standard job being fired for not taking a flu vaccine is not the same thing.
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How do they control the spread?
Taylor
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As long as you keep getting a booster your chance of catching covid-19, assuming consistent exposure, is between 5 and 80%, trending from the lowest to the highest as time goes on. I haven't seen something that shows an infected person with different chance of spreading once infected.
If you're not exposed then your vaccination status is entirely irrelevant.
Forward Press
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It's been posted dozens upon dozens of times in this and similar threads since the vaccination rollout began, and a quick trip to reputable websites, perusal of worldwide data, or a visit to your doctor would explain this.
I'm not bothering with your faux 'just asking questions' act because it's similar to trying to explain how the earth rotates and orbits the sun to someone who still believes in a flat earth - their mind is made up in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary and logic and reason is simply dismissed outright as the terms of discussion are set by them.
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Reduce likelihood of catching the virus. Reduce how contagious you are when you do catch it. These two factors reduce the ability for the virus to spread.
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Ever heard of long covid? Death isn’t the only thing covid can cause.
Taylor
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That one is actually really difficult to quantify. Headaches, fatigue, post exercise exhaustion, muscle aches are both not particularly well tracked during regular life and also fairly common.
I am quite curious to see how the study into lung capability before and after comes back as that would impact a professional athlete.
People spending months at home are going to report significant lingering issues when getting mobile again, especially after gaining weight - which the data shows has been quite common.
