News We’re at Dingleyland! First open training, December 6th!

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[Notsoyabby]

For anyone who attended on Saturday (yesterday for you, today still for me) was there any information available about the immediate development and subsequent plans for the facility? Such as, more car parking and overflow parking areas as alluded to in one of the most recent communiques from the Growler, landscaping enhancements, basketball courts etc etc etc?

Thanks

 

[wahawk]

There is no problem with criticism and ultimately it depends what they intend it to be. If simply a training facility it is excellent. If they plan large scale events less so but as an exception it was fine yesterday. To play games there seems totally untenable as things stand.

You are touching on what I’m sort of saying.

KCC is ultimately a training venue & home base for HFC.

It’s been opened up as soon as possible for the players to start training but as yet not complete.

Priority 1 was to have the club move in.
Further down that list but clearly not far down was to have fans able to attend & a plan on how that could work. Ie; buses

Lower down that list is building a carpark big enough to cater for these events.
Just as the landscaping/tree planting will no doubt be done soon.

Rome wasn’t built in a day.

Some people are complaining (I don’t mean just here on bigfooty) that there’s no parking.
I’m saying, the club pre-warned us & put that out there for everyone.
So for the time being just accept that & wait until the venue is complete

 

[FB19]

You are touching on what I’m sort of saying.

KCC is ultimately a training venue & home base for HFC.

It’s been opened up as soon as possible for the players to start training but as yet not complete.

Priority 1 was to have the club move in.
Further down that list but clearly not far down was to have fans able to attend & a plan on how that could work. Ie; buses

Lower down that list is building a carpark big enough to cater for these events.
Just as the landscaping/tree planting will no doubt be done soon.

Rome wasn’t built in a day.

Some people are complaining (I don’t mean just here on bigfooty) that there’s no parking.
I’m saying, the club pre-warned us & put that out there for everyone.
So for the time being just accept that & wait until the venue is complete

Understand what you are saying and there is clear merit, but I also think there are greater problems than foreseen. Will be an interesting watch on how it develops, but it certainly has the foundation to be great for training and fan engagement, I just doubt it can become a genuine aflw venue but let’s see.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

You are touching on what I’m sort of saying.

KCC is ultimately a training venue & home base for HFC.

It’s been opened up as soon as possible for the players to start training but as yet not complete.

Priority 1 was to have the club move in.
Further down that list but clearly not far down was to have fans able to attend & a plan on how that could work. Ie; buses

Lower down that list is building a carpark big enough to cater for these events.
Just as the landscaping/tree planting will no doubt be done soon.

Rome wasn’t built in a day.

Some people are complaining (I don’t mean just here on bigfooty) that there’s no parking.
I’m saying, the club pre-warned us & put that out there for everyone.
So for the time being just accept that & wait until the venue is complete

Well said. Spoilt lot. We almost expect an MCG equivalent. We have the land and so over time this will become a whole lot more accomodating in terms of luxuries.

At the moment, even if there were 500 car spaces there would still be some complaints

 

[kazzooka]

Well said. Spoilt lot. We almost expect an MCG equivalent. We have the land and so over time this will become a whole lot more accomodating in terms of luxuries.

At the moment, even if there were 500 car spaces there would still be some complaints

There area about 70 car parks in the staff carpack behind the Main building.

Roughly 200 on the main road behind the Community Pavilion.

And about 240 to the left of the roundabout.

So there are 500 car spaces available and people are complaining.

I understand how with Tootal Rd not being upgraded and proper ground work not done on the surrounding areas that the open training operate like this for now. But long term the expectation should be for parking on site, there is more than enough space south of the AFLW oval and West of the Main training oval for overflow parking.

1 thing that was an issue that I noticed a fan on Facebook mentioning that they were unable to contact the club to learn about disabled parking availability nor was the information offered. The clubs should have offered parking on site for disability placard holders and included that in the announcement.

 

[pattymalone00]

There area about 70 car parks in the staff carpack behind the Main building.

Roughly 200 on the main road behind the Community Pavilion.

And about 240 to the left of the roundabout.

So there are 500 car spaces available and people are complaining.

I understand how with Tootal Rd not being upgraded and proper ground work not done on the surrounding areas that the open training operate like this for now. But long term the expectation should be for parking on site, there is more than enough space south of the AFLW oval and West of the Main training oval for overflow parking.

1 thing that was an issue that I noticed a fan on Facebook mentioning that they were unable to contact the club to learn about disabled parking availability nor was the information offered. The clubs should have offered parking on site for disability placard holders and included that in the announcement.

Disability parking was available for people with a disability sticker but yeah the club probably could have mentioned it better on the events page so you didnt need to call up

 

[kazzooka]

Disability parking was available for people with a disability sticker but yeah the club probably could have mentioned it better on the events page so you didnt need to call up

Not only so they didn't need to call up, but also have the phone be answered when people did call up.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

There area about 70 car parks in the staff carpack behind the Main building.

Roughly 200 on the main road behind the Community Pavilion.

And about 240 to the left of the roundabout.

So there are 500 car spaces available and people are complaining.

I understand how with Tootal Rd not being upgraded and proper ground work not done on the surrounding areas that the open training operate like this for now. But long term the expectation should be for parking on site, there is more than enough space south of the AFLW oval and West of the Main training oval for overflow parking.

1 thing that was an issue that I noticed a fan on Facebook mentioning that they were unable to contact the club to learn about disabled parking availability nor was the information offered. The clubs should have offered parking on site for disability placard holders and included that in the announcement.

I am gotta check my local shopping centre next time I am there to see if has 500 spots

Ideally, how many would be enough (to sit around unoccupied for 90+% of the time).

Let’s not compare it to Waverley parking

Let’s just have confidence in this administration knowing what they are doing, having delivered it for $100m is good going

Given time and feedback, it will evolve and improve

 

[kazzooka]

I am gotta check my local shopping centre next time I am there to see if has 500 spots

Ideally, how many would be enough (to sit around unoccupied for 90+% of the time).

Let’s not compare it to Waverley parking

Let’s just have confidence in this administration knowing what they are doing, having delivered it for $100m is good going

Given time and feedback, it will evolve and improve

I think a lot of this issue is on City of Kingston not on Hawthorn FC. I am almost certain that the surrounding grassland (on Hawthorn FC land at KCC) would be the clubs plan for large events. Just like the MCG carpark or like what StKilda used to do on what is now the dog park. I think Kingston didn't want all the traffic down Tootal rd into 1 driveway so probably stated no onsite parking when issuing the permit for the event.

Which is funny as on Sunday they had their Carols by Kingston event and they advertised it as "Free parking available on-site" and it was an absolute shit show of people parked on footpaths, double-parking in cricket club, all side streets with driveways blocked etc.. I didn't see a single staff member directing traffic to car parks.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

I think a lot of this issue is on City of Kingston not on Hawthorn FC. I am almost certain that the surrounding grassland (on Hawthorn FC land at KCC) would be the clubs plan for large events. Just like the MCG carpark or like what StKilda used to do on what is now the dog park. I think Kingston didn't want all the traffic down Tootal rd into 1 driveway so probably stated no onsite parking when issuing the permit for the event.

Which is funny as on Sunday they had their Carols by Kingston event and they advertised it as "Free parking available on-site" and it was an absolute shit show of people parked on footpaths, double-parking in cricket club, all side streets with driveways blocked etc.. I didn't see a single staff member directing traffic to car parks.

Yes I am guessing there would be some restrictions imposed on the club at present to do with a lack of traffic management.
And they probably had the parking inspectors on hand to recover the cost of the event due to illegal parking etc