- May 1, 2016
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Think I'm more immature now.Are you the same person as 10 years ago?
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Think I'm more immature now.Are you the same person as 10 years ago?
He would have had the president’s support.If Lyon had gone in and just said "my body of work speaks for itself" he would not have got much support.
If that would have been enough he would probably have had a go.He would have had the president’s support.
Sayers’ unilateral coach search was a complete failure.If that would have been enough he would probably have had a go.
Lyon still practicing the rhythm method.Sayers’ unilateral coach search was a complete failure.
If Sayers and the board had determined the process together and were on the same page, I think Lyon would be our coach today.
When it was clear that the goalposts were still moving, Lyon pulled out.
Hopefully, you have to wait an inordinately long time before this comes to pass.I look forward to you reminding us of this everytime we lose a game.
How do you know?Sayers’ unilateral coach search was a complete failure.
If Sayers and the board had determined the process together and were on the same page, I think Lyon would be our coach today.
When it was clear that the goalposts were still moving, Lyon pulled out.
I have been wondering the same thing ???Any reason Greaves hasnt been announced by the club?
Voss wasn’t in our top three choices. He was the last man standing which filled Sayers’ criteria.
He ain’t perfect - but he’s making the right noises so far. Dwelling on his past is irrelevant now.
Except that Sayers himself had a 45 minute conversation with him before the final "process" began.
We approached others well before Voss was even part of the "process".
No way was Voss our preferred option, even after Clarkson bowed out. There wasn't a single process, moreso random conversations which went nowhere and forced us to do something resembling modern recruitment.
Voss was the one left standing who could justify Sayers' stance of needing an experienced coach. Whatever the circumstances, I hope he does good things.
He would have had the president’s support.
Sayers’ unilateral coach search was a complete failure.
If Sayers and the board had determined the process together and were on the same page, I think Lyon would be our coach today.
When it was clear that the goalposts were still moving, Lyon pulled out.
Any reason Greaves hasnt been announced by the club?
Is that the General consensus?Yes, it would be grievous for them not to announce it soon. Is he still on?
You know all of the above how?
It's a vibe thing. Kind of like mabo. Yeah just the vibe.You know all of the above how?
Yep. I couldn't care less if Voss was preferred 1st choice or 20th. He went through the process and answered the hard questions, and therefore showed a lot of mental resilience and character to do so, having been seen as 'failed' before. I'm happy with the selection.Sayers reached out to some personal contacts of which Lyon was one. Lyon in his universe might of taken that reach out as a wink wink nudge nudge that the job is yours if you want it... what they discussed in private we will never know but Sayers did publicly say their would be a coaching selection panel and process.
Ross should've gone through the process, surely some hard questions relating to his tenure at Freo could've been simply worded as due to the necessary settlement entailed I can not speak of details, but I can assure you through investigations and on my word that nothing beyond board occureed.
Either the committee accepted and believed him, or moved on. Lyon to me wanted to save face and didn't want to be viewed as being "rejected" for the role as people and media would make the assumption it had to do with Freo. Ego and Pride bit him on the arse here... we have Voss, he went through the process... guarantee he got asked hard questions about what happened at Brisbane, and the whole crazy Vossy period of his life.
We go on about how Ross would build a tough culture for us... well I think Voss bringing about characteristics of knowing his sh## don't smell of roses, you can fail but pick yourself up and learn from it, respect and do the team things and success will follow will hopefully bring about the culture we seek as opposed to what I feel would be the hard totalitarian approach Ross may have brought.
Sayers is not the one who has the ultimate power and say as to how is appointed coach, that is not how football club boards operate these days.
Clearly there had been some red flags about Ross Lyon and his conduct with female employees at Fremantle with some board members, but I personally believe (without knowing any of the details) that Lyon publicly spruking for the job whilst Teague hadn't yet been officially terminated is probably what set Ross's fate and turned the board and coaching committee off him in the end.
That or Ross's somewhat stubborn and inflexible attitude to be able communicate and work with others is probably what cost him the job in the end.
I certainly won't be revealing my source to any moderator on this forum. You know why.You know all of the above how?