List Mgmt. Weak Flog Jake Lever Requests Trade to Melbourne, Causes Player Revolt

Where will Jake Lever end up?


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Mitch Cleary saying Crows now adamant Lever is on his bike....Nothing new there, most of us realised he was gone 10 weeks or so ago. Interesting though Dodoro has said Aaron Francis is untouchable Healy suggests a 3 way deal involving the "Package" to Essendon/Francis and the Crows/Port in some way involving Lever may be on the cards.

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Re the Dodoro bit on Francis, whether Francis is any chance or not, you play it like Dodoro is, especially when a player is contracted. Menzel, for better or worse, at least publically from Carlton etc was staying right up unti l he was gone essentially. As a club, as soon as you start publically putting players on the market, they lose value and clubs get suspicious, with good reason, as to why they're on the market. See Hamish Hartlett last year, Jarryd Lyons similar(although he was out of contract) and Stringer this year. It also does nothing for your relationship with the player. They're required players right up until the paperwork is lodged and Patrick Keene has announced it on twitter.
 

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Those talking PSD better think again.....


In the game of trade period bluff, Lever can put a price on his head, and most likely to get to Melbourne (at pick No. 10) in the national draft.

That would leave the Crows empty-handed right in the middle of their premiership window. But no one wants it to get to that point.

It might take until the 11th hour of trade period, but this deal will surely get done. Melbourne, like Adelaide, has a right to act responsibly.
 

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if its that easy for Lever to walk to Melbourne through the draft what incentive do they have to trade with us in the first place?
Not a lot but it's just not been the done thing, but therein is the big difference between a contracted player and an uncontracted player.
 

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if its that easy for Lever to walk to Melbourne through the draft what incentive do they have to trade with us in the first place?
I don't think it's that easy, it's easy for the clubs to talk about, but they're not the ones risking getting stuck in another state playing for a bottom dwelling club. If clubs want players to select them as a destination, they need to show they can get the deal done.

Also player agents might look to steer their players elsewhere if clubs can't get the deal done.

Clubs also need to think about their relationships with other clubs. This year it's Lever wanting out to Melbourne, next year Petracca could want out to us, if they deal with us fairly this year, we're likely to be easier to deal with when the shoes on the other foot.

Overall I think it's a bad look/experience for all involved if it happens. I think the PSD keeps everyone honest, but is rarely used because clubs generally want to work something out.
 

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I don't think it's that easy, it's easy for the clubs to talk about, but they're not the ones risking getting stuck in another state playing for a bottom dwelling club.
If a club like Brisbane or the Gold Coast can get Lever in the PSD, they will do it without hesitation. They will then be able to turn around and trade a CONTRACTED Lever in 12 months time for two low first rounders. It would be a matter of converting a useless PSD pick into 2 top draft picks.

Melbourne better make a deal with us or they will be dealing with another club for a contracted Lever who will cost them more. And they will have him for one less year. Of course we have more to lose than Melbourne.
 

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So North Melbourne who had a $1.5M per year offer to Dusty won't have the money to grab Lever?

Lever can't price himself out of being picked up by another club as there are quite a few who are chasing high priced players.
And Brisbane who have an offer on the table for Rockliff who might walk out the door. Gold Coast are losing Ablett and about 10 other players apparently. Carlton who were getting Kelly and about 5 other GWS players for pick 10 obviously have massive space.
 

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So North Melbourne who had a $1.5M per year offer to Dusty won't have the money to grab Lever?

Lever can't price himself out of being picked up by another club as there are quite a few who are chasing high priced players.
Well I can only think of the one instance where a club swooped on another player that didn't want to be there, so history says it's unlikely?
 

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Well I can only think of the one instance where a club swooped on another player that didn't want to be there, so history says it's unlikely?
You're changing the goalposts again, you said he can price himself out, he clearly can't.

I would have thought a club like Saint Kilda or the Bulldogs could appeal to Lever, if Melbourne couldn't get the deal done and these clubs made a play, I think Lever is the type of character that would follow the money as long as it was a reasonable club.

The other thing is, Lever and his dad, are going to be putting pressure on Melbourne to get the deal one.
 

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Well I can only think of the one instance where a club swooped on another player that didn't want to be there, so history says it's unlikely?
Exactly. The only time a club has had the balls to do it, the player didnt get to his club of choice. Seems to me that there is a 100% precedent that if Melbourne dont deal with us they wont get their man?
 

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You're changing the goalposts again, you said he can price himself out, he clearly can't.

I would have thought a club like Saint Kilda or the Bulldogs could appeal to Lever, if Melbourne couldn't get the deal done and these clubs made a play, I think Lever is the type of character that would follow the money as long as it was a reasonable club.

The other thing is, Lever and his dad, are going to be putting pressure on Melbourne to get the deal one.
You like a wager I hear?

You take the "send Jake to the Draft option"

I'll take the option a deal with Melbourne involving picks or a 1st round pick in 2017 or if we like to gamble 2018 and a decent player...or a deal involving Gibbs oranother goos player between multiple clubs.

My odds would be 1,000/1 your option and 100's on my option.

And I know you're way to clever a punter to take that wager because it will just not happen.

All this send him to the draft or GTFO is pure fantasy.
 

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Exactly. The only time a club has had the balls to do it, the player didnt get to his club of choice. Seems to me that there is a 100% precedent that if Melbourne dont deal with us they wont get their man?
You could not possibly be more wrong, it hasn't happened again because club's know it's pure madness.
 

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You like a wager I hear?

You take the "send Jake to the Draft option"

I'll take the option a deal with Melbourne involving picks or a 1st round pick in 2017 or if we like to gamble 2018 and a decent player...or a deal involving Gibbs oranother goos player between multiple clubs.

My odds would be 1,000/1 your option and 100's on my option.

And I know you're way to clever a punter to take that wager because it will just not happen.

All this send him to the draft or GTFO is pure fantasy.
I'm confused, you are saying we will get a first in 17 or 18 plus another pick or a quality player?

So what's the other pick?

And depends on the quality player. Give me a name of the type of player you are thinking
 

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I'm confused, you are saying we will get a first in 17 or 18 plus another pick or a quality player?

So what's the other pick?

And depends on the quality player. Give me a name of the type of player you are thinking
Who knows, whatever picks the Dees can rustle up to somewhat satisfy us.
That player falls into the same category, one that satisfies our list management, I'd like Salem but might settle for Watts or a few others,
 

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Who knows, whatever picks the Dees can rustle up to somewhat satisfy us.
That player falls into the same category, one that satisfies our list management, I'd like Salem but might settle for Watts or a few others,
That seems pretty wishy washy.

If the Demons said their first and second, would you expect us to take that? Should we take that?

A first and Salem is equivalent to two firsts.
 

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I'm actually not sure what you're point is.
I'll keep saying it, Treloar was out contract too, didn't stop GWS getting something half decent.
jay clark, a typical vic biased journo writes an article saying a vic club has the upper hand.. whoop dee do.
+ 1 million. He's just a lesser Rucci.
 

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I'm actually not sure what you're point is.
I'll keep saying it, Treloar was out contract too, didn't stop GWS getting something half decent.
jay clark, a typical vic biased journo writes an article saying a vic club has the upper hand.. whoop dee do.
The fact they have the upper hand big time is Melbourne know he's going to name them as soon the Finals are over, everything indicates that is the case though it's not official. But you guys can go on with your hyperbole of sending him to the draft, getting his true value etc, the fact he's uncontracted dictates we will most likely get unders to what some of you are expecting. No matter what the club settles on I'll bet there will be a meltdown on here, it's the Big Footy way.
 

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The fact they have the upper hand big time is Melbourne know he's going to name them as soon the Finals are over, everything indicates that is the case though it's not official. But you guys can go on with your hyperbole of sending him to the draft, getting his true value etc, the fact he's uncontracted dictates we will most likely get unders to what some of you are expecting. No matter what the club settles on I'll bet there will be a meltdown on here, it's the Big Footy way.
If we get unders because he's uncontracted, and gibbs needs overs because he's contracted, when does fair value ever come into it?
 

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The fact they have the upper hand big time is Melbourne know he's going to name them as soon the Finals are over, everything indicates that is the case though it's not official. But you guys can go on with your hyperbole of sending him to the draft, getting his true value etc, the fact he's uncontracted dictates we will most likely get unders to what some of you are expecting. No matter what the club settles on I'll bet there will be a meltdown on here, it's the Big Footy way.
Lol, Treloar nominated collingwood as well, how is it any different?
 
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