List Mgmt. Weak Flog Jake Lever Requests Trade to Melbourne, Causes Player Revolt

Where will Jake Lever end up?


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He's about to be paid north of 750k because he's an excellent 3rd man in. If you're going to pay him on his one on one defending skills you'll want to half that wage. His decision making is excellent his skills are pretty good.
Not talking about his current one on one defending. There aren't any 21 year old defenders outside Harris Andrews who can go with the best forwards. I mean as of now can he defend 1 on 1 against a 3rd tall type well enough and could he develop into a one on one defender by 25. Rance was crap at 21 and Hurley was a forward.
 

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Not talking about his current one on one defending. There aren't any 21 year old defenders outside Harris Andrews who can go with the best forwards. I mean as of now can he defend 1 on 1 against a 3rd tall type well enough and could he develop into a one on one defender by 25. Rance was crap at 21 and Hurley was a forward.
I don't see it, don't think he has the build (to put on enough size) to go with the monsters and he's not very quick.
 

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I don't see it, don't think he has the build (to put on enough size) to go with the monsters and he's not very quick.
To be fair neither Hurley nor Rance play that role for their teams. Seems the traditional stopper (Astbury/Talia) is coming back into vogue to allow the class readers of the ball to mark uncontested.
 

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To be fair neither Hurley nor Rance play that role for their teams. Seems the traditional stopper (Astbury/Talia) is coming back into vogue to allow the class readers of the ball to mark uncontested.
Rance is far quicker than jake, even Hurley would be, what jake has is smarts and composure.
 

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if its that easy for Lever to walk to Melbourne through the draft what incentive do they have to trade with us in the first place?
Basically it's about not burning your bridges. There will almost certainly be a situation in the future (could be years from now) where Melbourne need Adelaide to work with them to get a trade done (maybe Adelaide have a pick or a player that Melbourne need to trade with another club).

If Melbourne tell Lever to go to the PSD instead of working out a deal then Adelaide will screw them over in the future. The end result from that is both Adelaide and Melbourne are worse off, so the only winners are the other 16 clubs.
 

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This is how I see negotiations going:

Melbourne to Jakes dad: Crows want 2 first round draft picks and we don't think he's worth that

Jakes dad: I've never been so offended, my boy is the best, he's worth 3.

He then proceeds to call Saint Kilda, Western Bulldogs, Collingwood and even North.
 

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Also how does his kicking and decision making with the ball stand up under pressure?
As others have said, it's his kicking and decision making with the ball (plus his intercept marking) that are the major strengths in his game. He's just got enormous composure under pressure that gives him the confidence to sell a bit of candy with a little sidestep. He just always looks like he's got all the time in the world.
 

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As others have said, it's his kicking and decision making with the ball (plus his intercept marking) that are the major strengths in his game. He's just got enormous composure under pressure that gives him the confidence to sell a bit of candy with a little sidestep. He just always looks like he's got all the time in the world.
Are we talking about the same Jake Lever?
Kicking a major strength?
 

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As others have said, it's his kicking and decision making with the ball (plus his intercept marking) that are the major strengths in his game. He's just got enormous composure under pressure that gives him the confidence to sell a bit of candy with a little sidestep. He just always looks like he's got all the time in the world.
Dunno if you have seen much of him but sounds like Jetta for us. Seems to always be able to put a step on to find space and then generally aims for kicks 15-30m away. Nothing extravagant but rarely misses either. Very neat and effective at retaining the footy.
 

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Well I can only think of the one instance where a club swooped on another player that didn't want to be there, so history says it's unlikely?
That's not quite right though. How many players have ended up at the club they originally chose after the deal fell through and they went into the draft. Luke Ball is a yes, but only after pricing himself out of the market with the fake 2 year deal that turned into 3 years for an extra SFA. The AFL have stated as fact that an attempt at a similar ploy will not get pass the gatekeeper again. So, we're talking about 2 players who ended up in a draft after deals failing to get done. Only 1 was successful and the loophole has been closed. Brisbane would be mad with their cap space to not grab him, play him for 12 months and then sell at a tidy profit. And let's face it, as long as Jake is getting his $900k, I doubt that he wouldn't be happy to spend 12 months up north.
 

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The fact they have the upper hand big time is Melbourne know he's going to name them as soon the Finals are over, everything indicates that is the case though it's not official. But you guys can go on with your hyperbole of sending him to the draft, getting his true value etc, the fact he's uncontracted dictates we will most likely get unders to what some of you are expecting. No matter what the club settles on I'll bet there will be a meltdown on here, it's the Big Footy way.
We'll get unders no doubt, but there are degrees of unders. As an example, we'll almost certainly get less unders than we got for Dangerfield. But the point is that there's no way they risk him going to a draft with a price on his head. That doesn't mean that we'll get true value, that's exceedingly rare for an OOC player, but I don't think that Melbourne are going to be able to risk not paying a reasonable price.
 

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If we get unders because he's uncontracted, and gibbs needs overs because he's contracted, when does fair value ever come into it?
You get fair value when they're contracted. There's no situation that warrants overs. SOS thinks we'll pay overs because with Gibbs comes a certain flag and he thinks that a premium needs to be paid.
 
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