Strength Weight Training: Anything and Everything II

[showdownhero]

Trying them strict or with a swing/kip?

Kipping like a mofo, tried strict before without getting close

That vid is the best I've seen at explaining how to time the kipping movement

 

[RU_]

Aeglos I’m now a deadlift cheater as of this morning..

 

[Aeglos]

Aeglos I’m now a deadlift cheater as of this morning..

Just remember that it’s only cheating if you get caught

 

[RU_]

Just remember that it’s only cheating if you get caught

Spot on!

Seriously though, my proportions of long legs, long arms and a shorter abdomen make conventional so hard on my lower back, sumo feels so much better.

 

[Aeglos]

Spot on!

Seriously though, my proportions of long legs, long arms and a shorter abdomen make conventional so hard on my lower back, sumo feels so much better.

That makes a big difference in comps when your back is cooked after squats/bench too.

 

[showdownhero]

 

[Aeglos]

I only got to the point in the first video where he said neither pro football teams nor D1 college sides are deadlifting and stopped watching as that’s 100% not correct.

 

[Themanbun]

Not sure I'll be cleared for a return to sport after my ACL reco until the 12 month mark. Now deadlifting 120kg, leg pressing the stack, and doing a fair bit of running but getting frequent inflammation flare ups and had a few unsteady moments throughout the day.

 

[BrockBlitz]

I only got to the point in the first video where he said neither pro football teams nor D1 college sides are deadlifting and stopped watching as that’s 100% not correct.

I work in American football. They don’t deadlift. It’s weird

 

[Aeglos]

I work in American football. They don’t deadlift. It’s weird

There are definitely college and pro teams that do though.
That, and “these X people don’t do it therefore you shouldn’t” isn’t a very strong argument lol.

 

[BrockBlitz]

There are definitely college and pro teams that do though.
That, and “these X people don’t do it therefore you shouldn’t” isn’t a very strong argument lol.

I’m yet to find any nfl team or college team who deadlift. RDL yeah, but no conventionals.

 

[Aeglos]

I’m yet to find any nfl team or college team who deadlift. RDL yeah, but no conventionals.

Really?
I can find videos on YT of Pros/College players deadlifting (they might be training under a private coach).
Definitely guys doing trap bar deadlifts at college or club gyms.

 

[BrockBlitz]

Really?
I can find videos on YT of Pros/College players deadlifting (they might be training under a private coach).
Definitely guys doing trap bar deadlifts at college or club gyms.

NFL has weird offseason rules so yeah it might be their private coaches.

They have a massive reluctance on deadlifting.

I think this is because culturally they have horrible form. It’s all about numbers not how you move. And if that’s the mantra - deadlifts are an aweful idea. I’m seeing some ex div 1 athletes and they move like absolute s**t. Mind blowingly strong though.

 

[Drumroe]

There's definitely guys doing trap bar deadlifts, I'd say that's probably the main reason not many deadlift, just because it's easier/safer to trap bar.

 

[Aeglos]

NFL has weird offseason rules so yeah it might be their private coaches.

They have a massive reluctance on deadlifting.

I think this is because culturally they have horrible form. It’s all about numbers not how you move. And if that’s the mantra - deadlifts are an aweful idea. I’m seeing some ex div 1 athletes and they move like absolute s**t. Mind blowingly strong though.

Some of the benches and squats I’ve seen from high school and college kids would blow most seasoned Australian powerlifters away and, like you say, technique is virtually non-existent.

There's definitely guys doing trap bar deadlifts, I'd say that's probably the main reason not many deadlift, just because it's easier/safer to trap bar.

Trap bar also seems to have more carryover to most sporting movements.

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Gave the trap bar a go for the first time and I like it.

 

[BrockBlitz]

Some of the benches and squats I’ve seen from high school and college kids would blow most seasoned Australian powerlifters away and, like you say, technique is virtually non-existent.



Trap bar also seems to have more carryover to most sporting movements.

American football is one of the anomalies - particularly Linemen. They really need to be powerful from a parallel squat position. If you check out their stance, it's all post chain and the angles are pretty congruent with a low bar back squat.

I personally love a trap bar and I get a lot of my big levered boys to do it instead of rack pulls or conventional.
I'm not a big fan of pulling from the floor unless your mechanics allow it easily.

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

The trap bar limited my weight compared to deadlift, but i felt great doing it.

Today is back day so i might to light deadlifts for reps and keep the big stuff for leg day

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Big back day last night...bigger leg session this morning.

Noticing improvement/size in my back and my arms are getting better, even though i am still only doing lighter weights.

Touch wood, all good.

 

[deklares]

Deadlifting at or close to 1RM may be riskier IMO. It's not the movement itself that is risky.

 

[Mofra]

Our gym is getting a trapbar soon, keen to try it out over normal deadlifts.

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Our gym is getting a trapbar soon, keen to try it out over normal deadlifts.

I have been doing these, but i can't lift as much as conventional...but boy my back feels great after it.

With conventionals, i feel discomfort.

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

I have been watching some Tom Platz vids and man i want to destroy my legs.

He reminds me of this guy

 

[Aeglos]

I have been doing these, but i can't lift as much as conventional...but boy my back feels great after it.

With conventionals, i feel discomfort.

The problem you’ll run into now is that if you go back to conventional your back will be deconditioned.
We’re a bit precious about our backs sometimes. Sore legs after squatting or sore pecs after benching? No worries. Sore back after deadlifts? WW3 and we all have leprosy.

 

[RU_]

The problem you’ll run into now is that if you go back to conventional your back will be deconditioned.
We’re a bit precious about our backs sometimes. Sore legs after squatting or sore pecs after benching? No worries. Sore back after deadlifts? WW3 and we all have leprosy.

Sore legs and pecs you can work around, sore back and you’re totally ****ed for work and everything else in your life. Can’t bend over, you can’t do s**t!