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This is just a follow-up to what I posted up the page a bit. It shows the 29 occasions where a team has had an equal amount of goals and behinds at 1/4 time, 1/2 time, 3/4 time and full time. There hasn't been a game where both sides managed this feat:-

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emuboy RogersResults Ron The Bear help me guys. I'm trying to solve this:

What is it that in the history of AFL/VFL matches:

Has only been done 23 times,

Has been done by Geelong the most but never by Adelaide, Brisbane, Fremantle, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Richmond or St Kilda.

Was first done by Melbourne in 1901, last done by West Coast in 2007.

Has been done the most against St Kilda but never against Brisbane, Collingwood, Fitzroy, Fremantle, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Richmond or West Coast.

Has Melbourne with the highest and lowest score in doing it.

Has had only 1 year when there was more than one occurrence.

been scouring the website but can't work out what it is.

This was back in 2010 or 2009 (page three of this thread) when it was posted so it's probably more than 23 times by now but it's been driving me crazy.

Can any of you remember what it was?
 

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emuboy RogersResults Ron The Bear help me guys. I'm trying to solve this:

What is it that in the history of AFL/VFL matches:

Has only been done 23 times,

Has been done by Geelong the most but never by Adelaide, Brisbane, Fremantle, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Richmond or St Kilda.

Was first done by Melbourne in 1901, last done by West Coast in 2007.

Has been done the most against St Kilda but never against Brisbane, Collingwood, Fitzroy, Fremantle, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Richmond or West Coast.

Has Melbourne with the highest and lowest score in doing it.

Has had only 1 year when there was more than one occurrence.

been scouring the website but can't work out what it is.

This was back in 2010 or 2009 (page three of this thread) when it was posted so it's probably more than 23 times by now but it's been driving me crazy.

Can any of you remember what it was?
Hi One Eyed Sainter

From memory, and by looking at the results for 1901 and 2007 it appears to be the cases of a team kicking the same number of goals and same number of behinds and winning by the same margin.

In Round 13 1901, Melbourne 6.6-42 d. Carlton (5.6-36) by 6 points, and in Round 19 2007 the West Coast Eagles 17.17-119 d. North Melbourne 15.12-102 by 17 points.
 

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As a response to your lists of team’s biggest rises in scores from one quarter to the next, here are the biggest decreases in a team’s score from one quarter to the next:

The biggest first to second quarter decrease in score is from Round 6, 2011:

Essendon:.......15-4 (94)......18-4 (112).......25-8 (158)......31-11 (197)
Gold Coast:.......0-1 (1)............5-3 (33)...........7-5 (47)..........8-10 (58)

Essendon scored a record 15-4 (94) in the first quarter but only 3-0 (18) in the second – a decrease of 76 points. The match is the second-biggest win by a team losing the second quarter – the biggest of course being Fitzroy’s amazing win over then-top-of-the-ladder (and eventual minor premiers) North Melbourne from Round 13, 1983 where Rendell kicked eight goals as a seventh forward, though nominal ruckman.

The biggest second to third quarter decrease in score is from Round 7, 1983:

Sydney:............7-4 (46).......10-6 (66)..........15-6 (96).........18-10 (118)
Carlton:............1-3 (9).......14-7 (91).........15-12 (102)....22-17 (149)

Here the Blues’ record burst of 13-4 (82) in the second quarter, with an equal record rise from the first quarter score was followed by just 1-5 (11) in the third quarter, a decrease of 71 points.

The biggest third to final quarter decrease in score is from Round 3, 1986:

St. Kilda:...........1-3 (9)...........4-4 (28).........5-6 (36)..........10-9 (69)
Carlton:.............5-3 (33).......11-9 (75)......23-11 (149)....24-13 (157)

Here the Blues’ record third-quarter burst of 12-2 (74) was followed by a decrease of 66 points to just 1-2 (8) in the last quarter.
 

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emuboy RogersResults Ron The Bear help me guys. I'm trying to solve this:

What is it that in the history of AFL/VFL matches:

Has only been done 23 times,

Has been done by Geelong the most but never by Adelaide, Brisbane, Fremantle, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Richmond or St Kilda.

Was first done by Melbourne in 1901, last done by West Coast in 2007.

Has been done the most against St Kilda but never against Brisbane, Collingwood, Fitzroy, Fremantle, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Richmond or West Coast.

Has Melbourne with the highest and lowest score in doing it.

Has had only 1 year when there was more than one occurrence.

been scouring the website but can't work out what it is.

This was back in 2010 or 2009 (page three of this thread) when it was posted so it's probably more than 23 times by now but it's been driving me crazy.

Can any of you remember what it was?
I'm glad emuboy came to the rescue because it was certainly driving me crazy as well, and I had spent quite a few hours trying to figure out this mystery. It's still only occurred 23 times. Footscray managed it in just their second match (the home team is in blue):-

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Hi One Eyed Sainter

From memory, and by looking at the results for 1901 and 2007 it appears to be the cases of a team kicking the same number of goals and same number of behinds and winning by the same margin.

In Round 13 1901, Melbourne 6.6-42 d. Carlton (5.6-36) by 6 points, and in Round 19 2007 the West Coast Eagles 17.17-119 d. North Melbourne 15.12-102 by 17 points.
Wow!!! Totally worth it. That's a very unique and cool stat.
 

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This is just a follow-up to what I posted up the page a bit. It shows the 29 occasions where a team has had an equal amount of goals and behinds at 1/4 time, 1/2 time, 3/4 time and full time. There hasn't been a game where both sides managed this feat:-

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Just for the record, I first made mention of all teams who finished with the same number of goals and behinds at the end of each quarter way back on page 18 of the Stats Observations thread. I state this purely for BigFooty historical context purposes.
However I would like to commend the colourful display used in the quoted table in order to depict the same info. It has a very appeasing red, white and blue (Bulldogs) aspect to it. I knew there was a reason I liked you 35Daicos.
 

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Just for the record, I first made mention of all teams who finished with the same number of goals and behinds at the end of each quarter way back on page 18 of the Stats Observations thread. I state this purely for BigFooty historical context purposes.
However I would like to commend the colourful display used in the quoted table in order to depict the same info. It has a very appeasing red, white and blue (Bulldogs) aspect to it. I knew there was a reason I liked you 35Daicos.
Collingwood, Manchester United, what's not to like?! Here's the real inspiration for the "colour scheme" BTW! I probably should be using a slightly darker blue by the look of this.

 

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Richmond vs Gold Coast, Round 17, 2011: Richmond and Gold Coast take turns utterly dominating quarters of football, Tigers in 1st and 3rd and Suns in 2nd and 4th.
Richmond: 6.8, 6.9, 8.16, 9.16 (70)
Gold Coast: 1.2, 7.6, 7.9, 12.13 (85)

Hawthorn vsWest Coast, Round 4, 2012: Only 31 points scored in the entire 1st half, and the WCE's didn't kick a goal at all! Also neither team kicked a goal in the 1st quarter and the final combined score was 10.37 (97)!
West Coast: 0.8, 0.12, 2.16, 5.21 (51)
Hawthorn: 0.4, 2.7, 3.13, 5.16 (46)

Round 12, 2012, Essendon vs Sydney: Bombers kick 2.15 to 3-quarter time and trail the Syd by 47 points, then effectively reverse that with 9.1 (55) in the final quarter all the while furiously rallying to within 4 points at the final siren. If they had won it would have been the biggest ever 4th-quarter comeback.
Essendon: 1.5, 1.11, 2.15, 11.16 (82)
Sydney: 5.3, 8.6, 11.8, 13.8 (82)

Melbourne vs West Coast, Round 3 2013: 10 point Eagle lead at halftime blows out to almost 100 by the end of the game
Melbourne: 4.1, 9.2, 10.3, 13.5 (83)
West Coast: 5.3, 10.6, 21.9, 27.15 (177)

Sydney vs Carlton, "Semifinal" 2013: Sydney holds Carlton scoreless in the 3rd term then Carlton answers by holding SYDNEY scoreless in the last.
Sydney: 3.3, 8.6, 13.8, 13.8 (86)
Carlton: 2.3, 4.8, 4.8, 8.14 (62)

Sydney vs Essendon, Round 1, 2015: Essendon loses to Sydney by 12 points. The Bombers failed to score at all in the last quarter after dominating Sydney up to that point and leading by 34 (therefore almost a reverse of the aforementioned game in 2012)
Sydney: 0.1, 1.7, 3.8, 10.12 (72)
Essendon: 4.3, 5.5, 9.6, 9.6 (60)

Bulldogs vs Melbourne, Round 20, 2015: Dogs lead the Dees by 73 points at half time before the latter began to mount a comeback with five goals to none in the third quarter. Then the bulldogs blow it out to almost 100 points again with a 10 goal last quarter.
Bulldogs: 8.3, 14.5, 14.7, 24.9 (153)
Meblourne: 0.2, 2.4, 7.7, 8.7 (55)
 

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Richmond vs Gold Coast, Round 17, 2011: Richmond and Gold Coast take turns utterly dominating quarters of football, Tigers in 1st and 3rd and Suns in 2nd and 4th.
Richmond: 6.8, 6.9, 8.16, 9.16 (70)
Gold Coast: 1.2, 7.6, 7.9, 12.13 (85)
In fact 137 of the 155 total points, and 19 of 21 goals, in that match were scored at the same end of the field
Q1: Richmond 44-8
Q2: Gold Coast 40-1
Q3: Richmond 19-3
Q4: GC 34-6
 

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This season there was no team who "kicked the year". This is the first time since 2011 where this has not happened. No team managed to kick a total of 136 with a scoreline of 20.16 during 2016.
 

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There are some interesting parallels between Western Bulldogs' quarter by quarter scores in their preliminary final and the grand final this season.

Preliminary 2.3 (15), 6.5 (41), 9.6 (60), 13.11 (89)
Grand final 2.0 (12), 7.1 (43), 9.7 (61), 13.11 (89)

The quarter time scores have a three points differential, the half time scores have a two point differential, there is one point separating the three quarter time scores, with scores then being dead even at the end.
 

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There are some interesting parallels between Western Bulldogs' quarter by quarter scores in their preliminary final and the grand final this season.

Preliminary 2.3 (15), 6.5 (41), 9.6 (60), 13.11 (89)
Grand final 2.0 (12), 7.1 (43), 9.7 (61), 13.11 (89)

The quarter time scores have a three points differential, the half time scores have a two point differential, there is one point separating the three quarter time scores, with scores then being dead even at the end.
That's nuts.
 

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There are some interesting parallels between Western Bulldogs' quarter by quarter scores in their preliminary final and the grand final this season.

Preliminary 2.3 (15), 6.5 (41), 9.6 (60), 13.11 (89)
Grand final 2.0 (12), 7.1 (43), 9.7 (61), 13.11 (89)

The quarter time scores have a three points differential, the half time scores have a two point differential, there is one point separating the three quarter time scores, with scores then being dead even at the end.
Saints vs Hawks Round 17 2010:
St. Kilda: 4.0 (24) 7.0 (42) 11.1 (67) 14.3 (87)
Hawthorn: 4.1 (25) 6.5 (41) 10.7 (67) 13.9 (87)
St Kilda and Hawthorn were never more than 1 point apart at the end of any quarter. (And St. Kilda's accuracy (14.3) during the entire game was also very impressive).

Coll vs Sydney Round 4 2000:
Collingwood: 3.2 (20) 7.6 (48) 12.9 (81) 15.11 (101)
Sydney: 3.3 (21) 7.6 (48) 12.9 (81) 16.10 (106).
 

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The battle of the wooden spoon for 1936 was played at the Arden Street Oval in Round 10 between North Melbourne and Fitzroy, and produced one of the strangest scorelines I have ever seen:

North Melbourne 0.5 0.5 4.9 9.11-65 d. Fitzroy 2.3 3.8 3.10 3.12-30

Never before have I heard of a game, post World War 1 at least, where one of the teams was goal-less in the first half and the other team went goal-less in the second half as the Kangaroos and Lions did that afternoon.
 

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The battle of the wooden spoon for 1936 was played at the Arden Street Oval in Round 10 between North Melbourne and Fitzroy, and produced one of the strangest scorelines I have ever seen:

North Melbourne 0.5 0.5 4.9 9.11-65 d. Fitzroy 2.3 3.8 3.10 3.12-30

Never before have I heard of a game, post World War 1 at least, where one of the teams was goal-less in the first half and the other team went goal-less in the second half as the Kangaroos and Lions did that afternoon.
Hasn't happened since then.

Happened 8 times from 1897-1902.

Also:
1918 R10 St Kilda v Collingwood
1927 GF Richmond v Collingwood
1936 R10 North Melbourne v Fitzroy
 

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I was looking at Will Minson's first game back in 2004

At 3 quarter time the score was 16 goals to 12

At full time the score was 16 goals to 12.

Is that the highest 3 quarter time goals kicked (28) vs a goalless last quarter ?
 

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There are some interesting parallels between Western Bulldogs' quarter by quarter scores in their preliminary final and the grand final this season.

Preliminary 2.3 (15), 6.5 (41), 9.6 (60), 13.11 (89)
Grand final 2.0 (12), 7.1 (43), 9.7 (61), 13.11 (89)

The quarter time scores have a three points differential, the half time scores have a two point differential, there is one point separating the three quarter time scores, with scores then being dead even at the end.

During the grand final Bruce McAvaney made mention early in the final quarter that the scores were locked at 61 to 54 in the Bulldogs favour, thus reflecting the two previous years in which the Bulldogs had played in a grand final. The scores were also 61 to 54 during the preliminary final, in GWS' favour, during the third quarter.
So in round 1 next season the Bulldogs will be on track for two curious hat tricks. Finishing with a score of 13.11 (89), and having the scores locked at 61-54 at some point.
 

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I was looking at Will Minson's first game back in 2004

At 3 quarter time the score was 16 goals to 12

At full time the score was 16 goals to 12.

Is that the highest 3 quarter time goals kicked (28) vs a goalless last quarter ?
Yes. 28 goals is the highest 3/4 time aggregate out of the 96 games played when 0 goals (aggregate) were scored in the last quarter. There has been no game since the 2004 one where neither side has scored a final quarter goal.

The next highest:-
23 - Fitzroy (13 goals) vs. St Kilda (10 goals) - 1940 Rd. 1
22 - Footscray (11 goals) vs. Hawthorn (11 goals) - 1970 Rd. 5
21 - Fitzroy (10 goals) vs. Collingwood (11 goals) - 1949 Rd. 14
 

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One of the strangest finals ever played was the 1974 Elimination Final at Waverley Park between the Magpies and Bulldogs as follows:

Collingwood 5.6 10.6 13.9 19.10-124 d. Footscray 3.1 4.11 6.11 6.19-55

So when the Magpies were scoring at around 50% accuracy in the first and third quarters with totals of 5.6 & 3.3 the Bulldogs were extremely accurate, with returns of 3.1 & 2.0. However, in the second & fourth terms when Collingwood kicked with ruthless accuracy with 5.0 & 6.1, Footscray managed abysmal returns of 1.10 & 0.8.

So at one end of Waverley Park that afternoon, a combined total of 16.2-98 was scored by the two teams, but at the other end the total combined score was 9.27-81.
 

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One of the strangest finals ever played was the 1974 Elimination Final at Waverley Park between the Magpies and Bulldogs as follows:

Collingwood 5.6 10.6 13.9 19.10-124 d. Footscray 3.1 4.11 6.11 6.19-55

So when the Magpies were scoring at around 50% accuracy in the first and third quarters with totals of 5.6 & 3.3 the Bulldogs were extremely accurate, with returns of 3.1 & 2.0. However, in the second & fourth terms when Collingwood kicked with ruthless accuracy with 5.0 & 6.1, Footscray managed abysmal returns of 1.10 & 0.8.

So at one end of Waverley Park that afternoon, a combined total of 16.2-98 was scored by the two teams, but at the other end the total combined score was 9.27-81.
I cannot explain how hard **** like this makes me. Love it.

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No team who has played four finals matches in a season has ever kicked a score of 100 or more in each of those games. On eight occasions has a team scored 100 in three out of three finals in a season.

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[B]team[/B]

1967

Geelong

1970

Carlton

1984

Essendon

1992

West Coast

1996

North Melbourne

1999

North Melbourne

2000

Essendon

2008

Hawthorn



All teams mentioned ended up being premiers, except Geelong in 1967.
 

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Port Adelaide, in their match against GWS in round 7, 2014, kicked exactly 5.3 (33) in all 4 quarters!
Power: 5.3 (33) 10.6 (66) 15.9 (99) 20.12 (132)
Giants: 3.4 (22) 5.4 (34) 9.6 (60) 15.7 (97)
This is only the second time this has happened. Collingwood kicked 3-3 (21) in all four quarters against St. Kilda in Round 8 of 1934:

Collingwood: 3-3 (21) 6-6 (42) 9-9 (63) 12-12 (84)
St. Kilda: 1-2 (8) 4-7 (31) 8-10 (58) 10-15 (75)

Sydney in Round 2 of 1986, ironically against the Magpies, were one second quarter goal short of scoring 5-5 (35) in each quarter:

Sydney 5-5 (35) 9-10 (64) 14-15 (99) 19-20 (134)
Collingwood 4-2 (26) 5-6 (36) 12-6 (78) 15-10 (100)
22 - Footscray (11 goals) vs. Hawthorn (11 goals) - 1970 Rd. 5
That was Ted Whitten’s last match as a player, and was played after half-time in torrential rain. On the same day at Windy Hill, Essendon kicked 9-8 in fair conditions in the first half against Geelong but only scored six behinds in the wet in the second half:

Essendon 3-3 (21) 9-8 (62) 9-10 (64) 9-14 (68)
Geelong 5-1 (31) 10-1 (61) 13-4 (82) 14-4 (88)

In yet another match from 2 May 1970, North Melbourne scored only four behinds in the second half:

Fitzroy 1-6 (12) 1-10 (16) 3-18 (36) 5-24 (54)
North Melbourne 4-1 (25) 7-3 (45) 7-4 (46) 7-7 (49)

The only case since where multiple teams were goalless in the second half in the same round was Round 12, 1988, when Brisbane and Essendon both failed to goal during the second half.
 
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In 1943, Hawthorn had their only winning season in their first 32 seasons in the VFL, finishing fifth with a 9-6 record in a war shortened season.

The Hawks had a chance of their first finals appearance that year; all they had to do was defeat lowly North Melbourne in the last round (Round 16) and they would be in the Top 4. Unfortunately for the Hawks, they blew it by losing to the Kangaroos by 1 point, 8.11-59 to 7.16-58, but it was the Hawks' strange scoring pattern that cost them victory that afternoon which was most unusual.

In the first quarter, Hawthorn kicked 0.4, then another 0.4 in the second term, to have a score of 0.8 to half time, trailing the Kangaroos by 25 points at the long break. Then Hawthorn found their radar, and slammed on 6.0 in the third quarter, to trail North by 3 points at three quarter time and looking a strong chance to over-run the Kangaroos and enter the finals. Inexplicably, Hawthorn lost their accuracy again, adding 1.8 in the final quarter to the accurate North's 2.0, falling an agonizing point short and missing their shot at the finals.

Much to the frustration of the Hawthorn players, officials and supporters the Hawks slipped back the next year, winning only 2 games in 1944 and mainly struggling until they reached the finals for the first time in 1957.
 
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