What Weitering are blue fans watching Struggling big time and gone backwards from being a gun.A late first rounder at best.I think if he went to another club with better development be a different player.
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It's not potential if he's already shown it.Weller did indeed go for pick #2 but I think anyone can see that was a one-off and not the standard.
Weitering clearly has talent but the fact is he isn't performing so you are picking on potential not ability. That's fine but IMO, he isn't getting pick 5 or better. Pick 15, sure.
I don't think he is bad, I just don't think he is top 5 good. Maybe he will demonstrate why he went #1 at some point. I find it hard to see at the moment.It's not potential if he's already shown it.
Take out the games where he played forward and give him grace for a couple of bad games where his form was down (being moved between forward and back killed his confidence a little a couple of times) and he's averaging 15 disposals, 6 marks, 2 tackles, 3 rebounds, 5 one%ers over about 40 games. I know that's cherry picking a bit but he's still a 20yo KPD so you have to give some allowance for yo-yoing form. That's still a 40 game sample from around 50 career games.
He's also had the players around him rotating in and out thanks to injuries. While he's played 51 out of a possible 58 games in his career so far, he's had a revolving door of Rowe, ASOS, Jones, Marchbank, Plowman, Simon White, Jamison, Macreadie, Williamson and O'Shea rotating in and out as the medium/tall defenders in that time. Most players will play better in a settled team.
He already demonstrated that in his first year. Admittedly he's slipped back a little bit since, but it's not as far as some would have you believe.I don't think he is bad, I just don't think he is top 5 good. Maybe he will demonstrate why he went #1 at some point. I find it hard to see at the moment.
Don't disagree that the defense (and team around him) won't be helping, nor would being shifted back and forwards.
My concern is in the modern game the best defenders roll off and intercept exceptionally and the very best are also excellent distributors. Not sure if his current role doesn't allow this much? He certainly showed the ability as an underager.
Don't get too worried what I think. No doubt you watch a lot more Carlton than me.
If it was fair he wouldn't be worth much more than what the Lions got in return for Schache, hey. Offer em' two second rounders at most and if they refuse cry restraint of trade.Late 2nd rounder would get it done
It is always more expensive us for when we want a player to come up to us, and you can let former in contract pick 2's go south for 2 2nd round picks.If it was fair he wouldn't be worth much more than what the Lions got in return for Schache, hey. Offer em' two second rounders at most and if they refuse cry restraint of trade.
If Lachie Weller can get pick #2...
Without commenting on whether or not he would go, he's a 20yo KPD with 50 games already under his belt. His form has been a little up and down, especially the start of this year, but our back line has been decimated and he's playing out of his best position as a floating interceptor.
You don't come out of the box as an 18yo KPD and debut round 1 in front of a massive crowd at the MCG and get 17 touches and 7 marks if you aren't much chop. In just his 3rd game he got 26 touches (10 contested), 9 marks, 5 reb50s and 6 x 1%ers.
He'll be fine and if he was put up for trade, or asked for one, he'd garner a lot of interest with a high 1st being the minimum needed.
Rightly it wrongly I think that has to do with the perception of problems at the club. If Dew ends the season looking like he has a handle on it, and is moving forward, that should changeIt is always more expensive us for when we want a player to come up to us, and you can let former in contract pick 2's go south for 2 2nd round picks.
Massive if, but I wouldn't want to part with more than the WC first round pick for Weitering if there is any truth to this.
Contracted until 2021We would get buggered in this deal
contracts mean very little NowadaysContracted until 2021
I doubt it personally but some people here are thinking he is worth a lot more than he really is. IF he did leave carlton to go to GC it would most likely cost a top 5 selection and maybe a fringe player. Can't see it though
If GC coughed up a top 5 I’d pull the trigger for sure.
I don’t think Weitering can defend a man, good at chopping off play with great marking and kicking skills but lack of pace to defend the lead and lack off agression in the one on one, still think at 20 there is room for improvement but think he and Marchbank play the same role.
As a bias Carlton supporter below is what I’d consider for Wieters
Pick 1-6 yes
Pick 7-10 probably
Pick 11-15 unlikely
Pick 15 plus - no
contracts mean very little Nowadays
josh schache Say hiIt means he can't walk for nothing.
josh schache Say hi
For nothingHe was traded.