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hippyhippy

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I mean... do you mean in the sense of good but not good enough?

Because as a player Ned is nothing like Mackay.
Mackay played a few ok games... constantly got picked and always under achieved hence becoming this boards whipping boy.. we eventually rewarded him with a long term deal and even extending... we had a chance to trade him to Melbourne but unfortunately did not eventuate. They are not the same player but so far ned has had only a few good games.. he's taken a while to come to afl standard... I still don't see any traits that set him apart from the average player although now seems a bit more composed that what we initially saw which was very bad even for a young player imho. He seems a hard worker... so maybe that will pay off
 

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Mackay played a few ok games... constantly got picked and always under achieved hence becoming this boards whipping boy.. we eventually rewarded him with a long term deal and even extending... we had a chance to trade him to Melbourne but unfortunately did not eventuate. They are not the same player but so far ned has had only a few good games.. he's taken a while to come to afl standard... I still don't see any traits that set him apart from the average player although now seems a bit more composed that what we initially saw which was very bad even for a young player imho. He seems a hard worker... so maybe that will pay off
I don't think you've been watching close enough or you have a fixed view because he's just about the best player on our list for lowering his eyes and hitting up our leading forwards, a fact not missed by Justin Reid yesterday in his press release, a reason we were so attracted to Jordan Dawson.
 

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Mackay played a few ok games... constantly got picked and always under achieved hence becoming this boards whipping boy.. we eventually rewarded him with a long term deal and even extending... we had a chance to trade him to Melbourne but unfortunately did not eventuate. They are not the same player but so far ned has had only a few good games.. he's taken a while to come to afl standard... I still don't see any traits that set him apart from the average player although now seems a bit more composed that what we initially saw which was very bad even for a young player imho. He seems a hard worker... so maybe that will pay off
He's a lot more composed. He improved every area of his game this year and I don't see why he can't continue that with more strength, fitness and experience. Clearly has the drive.
 

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Keays will get one.

Gollant probably gets one.

Rowe, Hinge, Borlase, Parnell and Newchurch are maybes. I’d say Rowe, Parnell and Newchurch are probably all competing for one spot, as are Hinge and Borlase.

Frampton and Himmelberg are probably done after this one.

Tex is entirely dependent on form and if he wants to go on.

So I’d say we’ve got 3-5 extensions to get done.
Newchurch and Borlase can stay as Category B rookies for a third year, so no need to make a call on those at the end of next year unless we know for sure one isn't going to make it. Keays is clearly a keeper.

From the rest, we likely only need to lose 2-3 players to bring in new draftees next year. This could include Davis/ ROC if we extend them this year for a year, or new rookies if we don't. But, from the players coming out of contract:
- Rowe played most games, so will likely stay on (unless we draft a gun small forward AND trade in Rankine)
- Hinge and Gollant made the team and looked ok, so probably stay
- Parnell looks promising, but will need to show something in an AFL game to be assured of a spot
- You'd think one of Billy or Easy goes, but if both play well both may stay with one as depth. We don't have the KP depth to lose both
- Tex likely finishes up - can't see him playing to same level as this year and our young forwards will have an extra year of development
 

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I don't think you've been watching close enough or you have a fixed view because he's just about the best player on our list for lowering his eyes and hitting up our leading forwards, a fact not missed by Justin Reid yesterday in his press release, a reason we were so attracted to Jordan Dawson.
Ned is a great example of people jumping early in judgement, So many writing him off as a wasted pick but 2nd half of the year he certainly did a lot to justify his selection at pick 16. I am extremely happy to have him around long term.
 

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My Crows jersey has a 25 on the back of it, being a Father's day present on the day Rutten played his last game.
Great to see McHenry growing into a player worthy of that number.
Mark Mickan and Ben Rutten gave the number a strong connection to my West Adelaide supporting youth as well.
(That said, haven't really tried to keep up with the SANFL after moving to Canberra in 1991).
 

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I don't think you've been watching close enough or you have a fixed view because he's just about the best player on our list for lowering his eyes and hitting up our leading forwards, a fact not missed by Justin Reid yesterday in his press release, a reason we were so attracted to Jordan Dawson.
I have to admit I missed that at first. I was so busy watching and enjoying him buzzing around like a fly in a bottle, being a pest and working hard, that I never thought about his disposal. Then I started to go "hang about, this kid can kick!". A very neat kick, is how it struck me.

I don't know if that's because it took me a while to catch on, or it took him a while to get it going....
 

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McHenry's kicking in the AFL, particularly set shot kicking, was initially pretty poor. It was frustrating as he'd shown himself to have reasonable skills in the SANFL. It looked to me like he cleaned that part of this game up as the season wore on.
 

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McHenry's kicking in the AFL, particularly set shot kicking, was initially pretty poor. It was frustrating as he'd shown himself to have reasonable skills in the SANFL. It looked to me like he cleaned that part of this game up as the season wore on.
Seemed like an example of a bloke not immediately adjusting to the pace of the game at the next level to me.

Noting that within 30 odd games is a perfectly reasonable time for that adjustment to happen.
 

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A lot of people, myself included were very critical of his and other players 2020 seasons. Collectively, we need to forget about 2020 form completely when judging players. Most of our young players looked terrible and unfit including Mchenry, Jones and Mcasey. We barely resembled a football team, it was putrid to watch.

I now think of 2021 year as 'Year 2' for Ned/Jones. And they were pretty decent and showed something worth persisting with.

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A lot of people, myself included were very critical of his and other players 2020 seasons. Collectively, we need to forget about 2020 form completely when judging players. Most of our young players looked terrible and unfit including Mchenry, Jones and Mcasey. We barely resembled a football team, it was putrid to watch.

I now think of 2021 year as 'Year 2' for Ned/Jones. And they were pretty decent and showed something worth persisting with.

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Ned is a running machine and in 2020 it was more to do with his body not ready for AFL..... he was probably guilty of pushing himself too hard, too early





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Ned is a running machine and in 2020 it was more to do with his body not ready for AFL..... he was probably guilty of pushing himself too hard, too early





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We should consider rotating Neddy and Benny Keays on the opposition best midfielder and when not on point, play at half forward where the pressure role is important. The gut running both Ned and ben give should make life hell for the opposition best mids and as we have both boys, it allows for good rotation to keep the energy levels right up there to niggle the schitt out of their man
 

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A lot of people, myself included were very critical of his and other players 2020 seasons. Collectively, we need to forget about 2020 form completely when judging players. Most of our young players looked terrible and unfit including Mchenry, Jones and Mcasey. We barely resembled a football team, it was putrid to watch.

I now think of 2021 year as 'Year 2' for Ned/Jones. And they were pretty decent and showed something worth persisting with.

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I think the strength and fitness level of our entire list during the 2020 season was below SANFL standard after the COVID break. When other teams fell away a bit and we caught up slightly on fitness near the end of the year, we managed to win some games, but in terms of physical development I think 2020 was a bit of a write-off for some sections of the playing group, those three included.
 

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I think the strength and fitness level of our entire list during the 2020 season was below SANFL standard after the COVID break. When other teams fell away a bit and we caught up slightly on fitness near the end of the year, we managed to win some games, but in terms of physical development I think 2020 was a bit of a write-off for some sections of the playing group, those three included.
We also had a new coach and players who had to train in small groups due to Covid so no game plan, or no coherent one anyway.
Thats why Nicks was using water bottles in the change rooms after matches, it was his only chance to get everyone together.
 

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Ahh, people are starting to see what I saw all year! Ok I didn't see it last year!

Ned McHenry starts 2022 at the bounce! He's not and never will be a half forward. Ned needs the contest and will thrive in the midfield! Can't wait!

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Ahh, people are starting to see what I saw all year! Ok I didn't see it last year!

Ned McHenry starts 2022 at the bounce! He's not and never will be a half forward. Ned needs the contest and will thrive in the midfield! Can't wait!

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He's looking like a half forward at the moment. Disposal numbers were beginning to pick up in the last fortnight (and it's probably worth saying the season ended a bit too quickly for Ned). Good short kick, great defensive pressure, and a gut runner. Really is just a few more goals (moving 10 to 15-25 range) and he's just consistency away from a 200+ game career as a damn valuable piece.

The chance of Ned ever being anything more than a bit-part piece in a midfield is remote. We should be exploring him as a bit part piece, seeing we do like having our midfielders double up as half forwards, but we seemingly are going to prioritise others. Schoenberg, Berry, Pedlar, Jones will probably get thrown in there again because of that explosive speed he has, Keays, Laird, Hately and I wouldn't sleep on Cook eventually being geared towards an inside switch, seeing how much of a blank canvas he is as a prospect. Effectively too many better prospects (on top of our senior players) for big midfield minutes in the queue already.
 

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Don't underestimate the importance of the half-forward pressure role. I think he fits that role perfectly. He has the skills to hurt the opposition the other way and kick goals. Ideally he could have bursts on the ball as well. The more players that can be rotated through the centre the better.
 

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Important signing. Started to really come into his own towards the end of the season

Think he’ll be able to nail down that ‘high half forward that rotates in the middle’ role. One of our better kicks inside 50. Obviously not hard to love his tough as nails, scrappy play style as well
Yeah agreed, starting to make that high half forward role his own. Has that general gut running capacity that made players like Tom Lynch and Chris Knights so successful at the role, but what's really impressive is his decision making, agility in traffic and short game skill, very Tyson Edwards like in this regard. His follow up is also very good. Pressure work also highly valuable, especially once he finds the balance between niggle and actually focusing no the game.
 

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Yeah agreed, starting to make that high half forward role his own. Has that general gut running capacity that made players like Tom Lynch and Chris Knights so successful at the role, but what's really impressive is his decision making, agility in traffic and short game skill, very Tyson Edwards like in this regard. His follow up is also very good. Pressure work also highly valuable, especially once he finds the balance between niggle and actually focusing no the game.
The game seems to have moved away from teams using a player in a dedicated tagger role, which is a shame for Ned as I think he'd suit it perfectly. Has the workrate to keep up with the best opposition players and the niggle to really get under their skin and annoy the hell out of them, as well as the composure in traffic to be able to be effective with his own possessions when he gets them.
 

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The game seems to have moved away from teams using a player in a dedicated tagger role, which is a shame for Ned as I think he'd suit it perfectly. Has the workrate to keep up with the best opposition players and the niggle to really get under their skin and annoy the hell out of them, as well as the composure in traffic to be able to be effective with his own possessions when he gets them.
Nah, McHenry is just way too small to be an effective tagger, seeing he'd be giving up 10+ cm and 10+ kg on the players you want him tagging (the Petraccas, Bontempellis, Fyfes, Martins, Dangerfields of this world). Tenacity and effort can only get you so far when you're out of your weight division.

That's for the O'Connors/Keays of this world.
 
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Nah, McHenry is just way too small to be an effective tagger, seeing he'd be giving up 10+ cm and 10+ kg on the players you want him tagging (the Petraccas, Bontempellis, Fyfes, Martins, Dangerfields of this world). Tenacity and effort can only get you so far when you're out of your weight division.
He's better off making the ball his focus anyway. One of the few players we have who lowers the eyes when delivering the ball inside 50.
 

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My Crows jersey has a 25 on the back of it, being a Father's day present on the day Rutten played his last game.
Great to see McHenry growing into a player worthy of that number.
Mark Mickan and Ben Rutten gave the number a strong connection to my West Adelaide supporting youth as well.
(That said, haven't really tried to keep up with the SANFL after moving to Canberra in 1991).
Thankfully you went with a number that tends to get held on to, I have 44 on the back of mine which has gone from Matt Crouch to Lachlan Murphy and now with Gollant.

I had it ages ago and went with 44 because I wanted to go with someone different so I went with Matt Crouch (back around 2015).

I've been asked a few times before "who's number 44", I got sick of telling people that it's a five year old Matt Crouch guensery so once as a joke I said it's for Tom Warhurst and got a blank stare 🤣
 
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