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Well that's one thing I've never seen Lyons do...take a speccy like Ben Crocker.
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Absolutely amazes me how none of you are employed by AFL clubs as recruiters....
It’s not to do with whether they have been on a list before, it’s to say that 22 isn’t old in footy terms and there’s plenty of development left.
Both were good U18 players as well, sometimes a 2nd chance is exactly what they need to kickstart their career again.
And Keays was stuck behind Lyons... who we effectively got rid of.
I could stomach going with one of them but two take two minimal upside known entities is a waste IMO.
Don't your two paragraphs contradict each other slightly ??No, development has everything to do with being on a list. There isn't much development left in a 22 year old who has spent four years on a list as a large portion of development is from being in a professional environment, putting on weight, getting fitter etc.
Keays is an interesting project, don't get me wrong, the question is more are we able to use his skills in a way Brisbane didn't, or more likely, weren't able too, and if we are does that end up snowballing into being a reliable long term piece, but tool wise, what he is now is what he'll always be.
Well that's one thing I've never seen Lyons do...take a speccy like Ben Crocker.
Don't your two paragraphs contradict each other slightly ??
He's not AFL standard.
Be an OK SANFL player, he's essentially another Riley Knight.
Unless our aim was simply to strengthen the SANFL team for a year then this is a waste of a pick.
Maybe he didn't Rate him.Who locked Hamish in the cupboard during the rookie draft to stop him taking O’Neill?
Haggis video says that the reasoning is to have some hardened bodies with good training and work ethic to support the current batch of kids and put spot pressure on.it is interesting that we seem to have picked up delisted depth from contending clubs when we’re in a sort of rebuild phase.
And Keays was stuck behind Lyons... who we effectively got rid of.
I could stomach going with one of them but two take two minimal upside known entities is a waste IMO.
Who locked Hamish in the cupboard during the rookie draft to stop him taking O’Neill?
But a building of confidence, can do wonders to a players game ....doesn't that improve them ala Seedsman ?Not really, it just comes down to the battle coaches face with most player. Finding a set up where they can make the most of what they have.
Neither Crocker or Keays are going to improve much as footballers. They can, however, find better performance from being in a set up which covers their deficiencies and supports their strengths.
Tim Kelly had never been on an AFL list before drafting, these two have.
This is the thing, I can handle taking these guys as they come from good clubs. We aren't getting St Kilda or GC cast offs.it is interesting that we seem to have picked up delisted depth from contending clubs when we’re in a sort of rebuild phase.
Can we actually play rookies in the AFL side without someone coming off the senior list first?
Yes I know Wikipedia is not necessarily the final authority, but it says this:
Rookie listed players are not eligible to play in AFL home-and-away or finals matches unless they are elevated to the senior list, either to replace a retired player or a player with a long-term injury.
If that's the case, these guys are definitely depth players, and let's hope that we don't have a Doedee like R1 catastrophe again.
But a building of confidence, can do wonders to a players game ....doesn't that improve them ala Seedsman ?
Can we actually play rookies in the AFL side without someone coming off the senior list first?
Yes I know Wikipedia is not necessarily the final authority, but it says this:
Rookie listed players are not eligible to play in AFL home-and-away or finals matches unless they are elevated to the senior list, either to replace a retired player or a player with a long-term injury.
If that's the case, these guys are definitely depth players, and let's hope that we don't have a Doedee like R1 catastrophe again.
Ben's father was diagnosed with early on-set Alzheimers while Ben was in Year 12. He now needs 24 hours care.
This is the thing, I can handle taking these guys as they come from good clubs. We aren't getting St Kilda or GC cast offs.