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How many players that we released, trade or otherwise have gotten better?

I can only think of 2E in the last 10 years
But in all seriousness, we haven’t lost any players previously as no one wanted to leave over the past 10 years before MK & Owies were used for draft picks. That’s a strong point for the club.

Only lost players to other clubs for peanuts who were looking for games elsewhere, or delisted.
SPS, Setterfield, Dow, Fisher + Stocker, Martin, Jack Carroll..

Menzel, Yaz, Henderson, Bell started off with the trades. Tuohy, Gibbs, Phillips were the only other ones worth something & only Tuohy excelling.
 
But in all seriousness, we haven’t lost any players previously as no one wanted to leave over the past 10 years before MK & Owies were used for draft picks. That’s a strong point for the club.

Only lost players to other clubs for peanuts who were looking for games elsewhere, or delisted.
SPS, Setterfield, Dow, Fisher + Stocker, Martin, Jack Carroll..
You can also add players that weren't picked up after being delisted

I think it also highlights the failures of our recruiting
 

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Players, far too often putting up conditional performances, the lack of intent as a collective is glaring, so too the selfishness of looking for glory moments rather than using a better option. Some also stating that " this group is soft"

I like the rest of your post Arrow but im wondering how you view this part. I agree with the point you raised but to me, this is a coaching issue/weakness.

The standard you walk past, is the standard you accept.

If we as supporters see this stuff, the coaching group can too, yet they still pick the same players regularly, One of our players who does this stuff consistently is even in our leadership group. That doesnt set a good example.
 
I like the rest of your post Arrow but im wondering how you view this part. I agree with the point you raised but to me, this is a coaching issue/weakness.

The standard you walk past, is the standard you accept.

If we as supporters see this stuff, the coaching group can too, yet they still pick the same players regularly, One of our players who does this stuff consistently is even in our leadership group. That doesnt set a good example.

It certainly is a collective responsibility

It's also difficult to make a statement when many are putting up conditional acts, but the coaching group can certainly make a statement with dropping a player or 2 of note
 
I have trouble assessing recruiting. It’s a tough gig dependent on so many things especially development and coaching

How many players have left clubs and got better?

I can’t believe our list is that bad and it’s certainly not as bad as the performances we are producing. This was the same list (and maybe better) that got us to preliminary final less than 2 seasons ago
There are a few points.

I think the rest of the competition has got better in regards to getting quicker and adjusting to the new rules. List adjustments have been made accordingly but we have been really slow off the mark here and it's costly. Teams have gone past us.

Small forwards have all been rubbish.

Owies could play forward and did ok. He wasn't a star but is horribly underrated. It wasn't a fluke that he just kept bobbing up in space and kicking goals, it was because he had forward IQ and got to the right spots.

E Hollands can play forward and can play half forward more specifically.

Cuningham was a pretty damn good half forward and was really good at shutting down good half backs.

Smith injured.

It's not the same team that made a preliminary finals. Our attempts to improve our forward line have failed badly. The only small/medium forward on our list who has a genuine forward's brain is Moir.

Motlop and Williams have talent and skill but not sure they have the smarts to really own their positions yet.

Fogarty, Cottrell and Evans shouldn't be there. They are VFL level players. You can carry one or two of them when your other forwards are good enough and they aren't.

Watching Hawthorn las week. Hardwick, Moore, Watson and Ginnivan. It was a real kick in the guts how they just go out and get 4 really good smaller forwards who have the skills, toughness and smarts to play the forward end so well. They are leagues better than out lot. This is how I judge our recruiting.

All I will say is at once stage Durdin looked like making it as a small forward but that was in 2022 and that was a long time ago now.

End of the day if you can't "stop" the ball in your forward end, the game is exhausting. And yeah, exhausted mids and backs are going to look soft, the coach is going to look hopeless and the team is going to look pathetic.

That team had 65 inside 50 and couldn't keep it in the forward end let alone score. They were exhausted from excessive rebounding. Our forwards were utterly terrible and they just are.
 
We only let him go because he was the fourth best ruckman on our list behind, Kreuzer, Warnock and Hampson.
But he wasn’t, his late season form as a ruck tyro was impressive. I was a fan of both Kreuzer and the Hampson potential, and had conceded Jacob’s may be a better ruck prospect. Next minute enter Warnock, at a big price, and bye bye Jacob’s for chump change.
 
2011, p1ssed me off

Essentially lost him because we acquired Warnock, a bloke that got shorter when he jumped for the ball
Same here. We persisted with Jacobs as a rookie selection, gave him a second chance and just when he started to come good we lost him to Adelaide.

A Kreuzer - Jacobs combo would’ve been great to see.
 
Wright is the perfect next step for Carlton.

Given his strong football & list management background, as an overarching CEO, he can help focus the club & make improvements he deems necessary.

With Lloyd outgoing, he’s is the perfect position to appoint the right HOF, also oversee List Management & from afar our coaching group.

Yes he is one person, but as CEO he’s in the position to impact the organisational structure, strategy & outcomes of our club & team.

The HOF appointment will be pivotal. No doubt the search is on already & who better to understand why we need than Graham Wright.
 

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Wright is the perfect next step for Carlton.

Given his strong football & list management background, as an overarching CEO, he can help focus the club & make improvements he deems necessary.

With Lloyd outgoing, he’s is the perfect position to appoint the right HOF, also oversee List Management & from afar our coaching group.

Yes he is one person, but as CEO he’s in the position to impact the organisational structure, strategy & outcomes of our club & team.

The HOF appointment will be pivotal. No doubt the search is on already & who better to understand why we need than Graham Wright.
Hope Wright turns out as good as Brisbane’s CEO….why can’t we get lucky with CEO’s? :)

We gave Swann the flick for Trigg and Liddle, what were we thinking.
 

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Wright is the perfect next step for Carlton.

Given his strong football & list management background, as an overarching CEO, he can help focus the club & make improvements he deems necessary.

With Lloyd outgoing, he’s is the perfect position to appoint the right HOF, also oversee List Management & from afar our coaching group.

Yes he is one person, but as CEO he’s in the position to impact the organisational structure, strategy & outcomes of our club & team.

The HOF appointment will be pivotal. No doubt the search is on already & who better to understand why we need than Graham Wright.
Wright is the "perfect next step" if he is allowed to make mass changes & avoid the incremental iterations that happened when Sayers conducted his review.
  • new head of football
  • new assistants, Keep Luke Power
  • New recruiting department
 
Wright is the perfect next step for Carlton.

Given his strong football & list management background, as an overarching CEO, he can help focus the club & make improvements he deems necessary.

With Lloyd outgoing, he’s is the perfect position to appoint the right HOF, also oversee List Management & from afar our coaching group.

Yes he is one person, but as CEO he’s in the position to impact the organisational structure, strategy & outcomes of our club & team.

The HOF appointment will be pivotal. No doubt the search is on already & who better to understand why we need than Graham Wright.
he won't fix everything. he just needs everyone on the same page
 
Wright’s expertise is in the football side of the business which is exactly what we need. The platform has been set for him on the commercial side by his predecessors and at a club like Carlton that will all take care of itself if we’re winning games.

Now I’m looking forward to seeing the changes he makes to the football department. It sounds like Lloyd has seen the writing on the wall and thankfully will walk the plank on his own accord. Wright is well placed to assess a replacement given his success in this role previously. He’s also not wedded to the coaching panel or the list management team so can assess them impartially with the aid of a new head of football.

While we can’t expect one person to fix our issues, at least we’ve got someone with a fresh set of eyes who has a wealth of experience in what a high functioning football department looks like.
 

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