Metalcrusher
A God Amongst The People
Agendas are running thick and fast here tonight boys and girls ….
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just count em......simmo, willo, h, ............
You get the feeling that Bugg might have come into the conversation as the draft was drawing closer & the call was made to him to come & have a train with us. It probably helped that SOS would have known a fair bit about him from his GWS days.question - would we have approached goddard & bugg to train with us or would their managers have sought us out?
Getting a little Hawthorn-eskeWilliamson
Simpson
McKay
O' Brien
Fisher
Goddard
Bugg
Lebois
Newman
O' Dwyer
De Koning
Schumacher
12 in total
So many kicking with the wrong foot. Wouldn't have happened in my day.Williamson
Simpson
McKay
O' Brien
Fisher
Goddard
Bugg
Lebois
Newman
O' Dwyer
De Koning
Schumacher
12 in total
... in every way, but his age.Curious, when you say he "can play" what body of work are you basing that on? Because Rowe is a far superior player.
Rowe and Asos?Meh I don't really rate him at all but again i hope I'm wrong and he can step up and provide coverage for Rowe/ASOS/JGM when needed.
Yes? They're gone, I know.Rowe and Asos?
lol do you follow much footy news?
Maybe. Time will tell whether he will be a good selection.
Worry that we don't give our interstate scouts enough credit
Although, just because we rated where we took him, doesn't mean he wouldn't have been available in the rookie draft
I am the one and only TOAD.Surely you meant The Toad
never got around to thanking you for this, dookster - also I'm trawling 3 pages back seeking relevant input - so, 12 lefties, quite a politburoWilliamson
Simpson
McKay
O' Brien
Fisher
Goddard
Bugg
Lebois
Newman
O' Dwyer
De Koning
Schumacher
12 in total
Surely Simpson isn't a leftie?never got around to thanking you for this, dookster - also I'm trawling 3 pages back seeking relevant input - so, 12 lefties, quite a politburo
Curious, when you say he "can play" what body of work are you basing that on? Because Rowe is a far superior player.
Nickname Pretzel please
Some interesting opinions floating around about big Hugh. However, there is certainly a reason Carlton couldn’t make this selection quick enough!
Go back a couple of years (to the beginning of 2016) and Goddard's biggest issue was that he put on too much size too quickly (we have a habit of doing this with young talls - Paddy, Hugh, Billy, Lewy - and limiting their ability to run). Going into his second season Hugh just needed to build his speed and endurance (and to drop some size to assist his agility). Then he snapped his achilles (which I am sure is totally unrelated to a teenager putting on large amounts of muscle then trying to play modern afl). Since then he has had a series of leg / foot injuries that have prevented him getting the conditioning he needs.
Towards the end of the year (2018) Hugh was finally starting to get some match fitness and mobility back. 2018 was always about just getting him playing consistently, and the results at the end of the year spoke for themselves.
RD 19 vs Casey he spent most of the game on Weideman (yes the same top 10 pick being talked up as the great white hope of Melbourne).
Hugh had 14 marks (more than half intercepts) and 22 touches. Was named BOG in a team that was comprehensively beaten. Casey had 55 inside 50s and about 15 more shots. Weideman had 5 marks and 2 goals. Yes Weid spent a few minutes a quarter rucking, but according to a few I know at the game Goddard had his measure all day (missed that game sadly but can tell you he had been building to that performance for a few weeks prior).
Following week he played seniors (a form related selection, which is unusual at St.Kilda lately). Yes he looked off the speed, but that was his first game back in nearly 2 years. This board piled onto the kid immediately. Meanwhile our seconds got thumped by Carltons reserves without him (yes that is how bad we are tracking). Given the following week was the last round (and we were out of finals contention) you would think we might take another look before delisting? But no, we dropped him
Went back to VFL for the last round and had 19 touches 8 marks. Along with Coff was the only Saints player that could really hold his head up as we got thumped by Collingwood. But it was the Magpies smalls that did the damage. Given the amount of ball coming into the backline he held up alright.
I would guess that most of the comments you will see on here are based on people that saw his one afl game in 2018 and one in 2016. Almost all will take pot-shots at his mobility / endurance in some way. Remember though, the kid has only just turned 22 and this will be his first real preseason.
In short he needs at least another 6-12 months of conditioning before you see any real results (don’t expect miracles as talls take longer, and given his history he may take longer than most). But if your conditioning staff get him right (and less top heavy) he is a gem of a footballer. Has great hands and has come on leaps and bounds at reading the play (12 months shadowing Jake Carlisle will do that for you). Should be no doubts about his ability, its all about whether you can get him fit and running.
Would have delisted at least half a dozen other Saints before him, and was gutted to see him go. He is a ripping character and wish him all the best with you