Strapping Young Lad
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Exactly. I expect him to debut this year even if he isn’t a regular best 22. You just know he is going to push himself to get to that level as soon as he can.Need him to dominate BH first. Confident he will, and then will only be a matter of time until he debuts.
I think his elite/weapon is supposed to be his aerial work & his intercept marking.
From Swan districts:One of the criticisms made by some commentators of DGB in his junior career was that he could have intercepted more - his stats weren't that high for intercept marks/possessions. But junior stats are very misleading as a general rule.
People like David King say "DGB will be an intercepting machine" - and you wonder if they just heard that and are repeating it. or making it up. Evidence has come out that Sydney were never interested in DGB at all, but that was the story during draft week.
Intercepting is good - but not that difficult to find - like Alex Keith for the WB who they got for little compared to pick 6.
It is so hard for defenders to really distinguish themselves as elite - they are rare birds, and hard to predict from where they come. Fingers crossed.
From Swan districts:
“Denver has the flexibility to play on tall or small forwards alike. He has quick closing speed, is a solid reader of the play and is an exceptional intercept marker.”
From Hawks:
“Standing at 195cm, the talented youngster’s strengths are his intercept marking and his ability to read the play”
So is someone pulling wool over their eyes? Tell us who are the experts saying that he’s not such a good intercept mark? What is your ‘evidence’ from Sydney saying they were never interested? Pretty clear to me that you’re just trying to cast doubt over him for some reason. I don’t care what that reason is, but just stop.
Oh, you have leaked documents from the Swans reading: “attn; Grainger-Barras intercept marking fraud. Do NOT select first round.”?"It is pretty clear to me"....
You just fact checked me, asking for me to provide some sources.... and then concluded my facts are wrong. Which is it?
Perhaps it is you who are trying to cast doubt.
(I don't mind being fact checked - but i will do it with you in PM and if you are not satisfied we can take it public. I don't want to bog down a thread).
Oh, you have leaked documents from the Swans reading: “attn; Grainger-Barras intercept marking fraud. Do NOT select first round.”?
My mistake, I didn’t realise.
You’re the one clearly emotional that we took ahead Denver ahead of Hollands, Perkins (or whoever it was), and now you want to post on the Hawks board about how both his junior and senior football clubs (not to mention every other club recruiter and Denver himself) have incorrectly assessed his talents (without providing any names, let alone sources).So you are trolling and got emotional
One of the criticisms made by some commentators of DGB in his junior career was that he could have intercepted more - his stats weren't that high for intercept marks/possessions. But junior stats are very misleading as a general rule.
People like David King say "DGB will be an intercepting machine" - and you wonder if they just heard that and are repeating it. or making it up. Evidence has come out that Sydney were never interested in DGB at all, but that was the story during draft week.
Intercepting is good - but not that difficult to find - like Alex Keith for the WB who they got for little compared to pick 6.
It is so hard for defenders to really distinguish themselves as elite - they are rare birds, and hard to predict from where they come. Fingers crossed.
So is DGB an elite lockdown type or an easy to find interceptor?Keith is good but not great though. There aren't too many purely lockdown defenders who are 'elite' - most of the real top tier defenders are interceptors and creators. McGovern, Andrews, Moore etc. all create a no fly zone which impacts the other team's forward entries.
Also on Keith and those okay defenders - think about the difference a real elite back would make to that Bulldogs line up or even a side like Port. Given how important a key back is to any side, very glad we went for the best rated one in the draft.
I strongly believe the natural talent combined with what appears to be a fierce determination will see this kid succeed. All the interviews I've listened to have shown a a young man very confident in his ability. I've got zero misgivings here. Looking forward to heading to Box Hill and watching him develop.
If Denver can get close to Teddy’s level that would be wonderful.Very early days but I am very heartened by the fact that Logan Mcdonald was running rampant in a WAFL game up until half time. DGB was then sent to play on him in the second half and gave him an absolute bath. Seems to have a very healthy combination of natural athleticism and footy smarts. Don't think we have had this since Chris Mew.
He's an 18 year old kid we drafted as a tall back, and we are hoping 4 the best.So is DGB an elite lockdown type or an easy to find interceptor?
Arguably the worst drafted tall back ever? You know he's 20 years old and struggled to get on the park yeah? hahahaHe's an 18 year old kid we drafted as a tall back, and we are hoping 4 the best.
The lat one we drafted like him kicked six and was close enough 2 bog as a forward. But b4 then was arguably the worst drafted tall back ever.
Let kids mature b4 they play a game let alone a season.
Hawthorn wasn't one of them evidently nor were the clubs that picked before us and Sydney.I read one piece where recruiters from all 18 clubs ranked their #1 (really #2, after JUH)
4 had DGB as their next best.
We did well.
Very early days but I am very heartened by the fact that Logan Mcdonald was running rampant in a WAFL game up until half time. DGB was then sent to play on him in the second half and gave him an absolute bath. Seems to have a very healthy combination of natural athleticism and footy smarts. Don't think we have had this since Chris Mew.
Yeah mate, it's called the Hawthorn Team of the Century "board" .Chances are there is at least one old black board somewhere with Mew painted onto it.
Box hill Twitter reported that he walked to the bench...but that is all I have seen.Just heard on SEN that DGB injured a knee in the VFL today - anyone at the game have any more detail?
God willing nothing serious!