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Roger Rogerson

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Yeah some posters are jumping the gun here, but equally, I don't think being 'very pleased' is realistic either.

There's legit questions on DGB, but importantly, they're not going to be answered anytime soon.

Writing him off as a bust is silly, but to be honest, I also think suggesting he is going to be elite from what we have seen is also potentially blind optimism.
No mate. For a 15 gamer who is playing in the hardest role on the ground before he is ready I am very pleased with what he has shown. Going to be plenty of ups and downs. It's the same old negative posters with their doomsday outlook that bumps this thread
 

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Logan McDonald has been dropped and in&out of the team, Ugle Hagan can't get a game, Thilthorpe struggled to get a game this year and currently worst on the ground today, Philips even when fit struggled and was dropped, Campbell dropped for this week, Hollands cant get a game at the Suns.


Welp I guess the first 7 picks are all fails.

That draft class has had it struggles which makes perfect sense considering the Covid shutdown.

Thought DGB was one of our best players against Brisbane. Especially in the first half when they were on top.

I didn't see a single second of the Gold Coast game but was disappointed to see that Denver had been omitted this week.

Not concerned at all about his trajectory. He's in a similar position to Will Day where his body is far from fully developed in a position that requires strength. I suspect when DGB hits 22 years of age we'll be in awe of his ability.
 

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theiaofseed

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That draft class has had it struggles which makes perfect sense considering the Covid shutdown.

Thought DGB was one of our best players against Brisbane. Especially in the first half when they were on top.

I didn't see a single second of the Gold Coast game but was disappointed to see that Denver had been omitted this week.

Not concerned at all about his trajectory. He's in a similar position to Will Day where his body is far from fully developed in a position that requires strength. I suspect when DGB hits 22 years of age we'll be in awe of his ability.
Denver was always going to be the slowest to develop of the 4 talls drafted, lacked size and endurance, yet he was still rated by many as the number one player in the draft.

Chol's speed and size is what got DBG last week(kept holding and looking back so he didn't lose Chol on a lead), in time with more experience he will stop worrying about what his opponent can do and focus on what he can, this will come on faster once he gains more size.
 

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Dekoning didn't have Stewart to support him tonight yet he smashed one of the best forwards in the game...he won his one on ones,, all of them!! Something Dgb has been clueless at..good backline or not, if you can't compete one on one you shouldn't be playing key back.
So keep your naive opinions to yourself and enjoy watching Dgb lose us games this weekend as well... Oh wait, he's been dropped!
You are an actual Nuffie

DeKoning is older then DGB

You completely ignored the points i made regarding midfield dominance from Geelong which allows easier defensive play (which was the case again on Friday night)

We dont put enough pressure on at the coal face to allow the defence to defend properly

But alas, you are the naive one who is writing off a KPD player after 15 games
 

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Denver was always going to be the slowest to develop of the 4 talls drafted, lacked size and endurance, yet he was still rated by many as the number one player in the draft.

Chol's speed and size is what got DBG last week(kept holding and looking back so he didn't lose Chol on a lead), in time with more experience he will stop worrying about what his opponent can do and focus on what he can, this will come on faster once he gains more size.
Also the conditions out at TIO would've been hard for him to play to. It would've been like running on a bar of soap at times. Defenders have to react to what the forwards do which is hard enough in normal conditions.
 

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Feels like it’s going to be a frustrating wait with DGB. Until he gets the required size hard to know whether he has flaws in his game in composure etc. Hard to see even in 12 months DGB having the size required.
 

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Feels like it’s going to be a frustrating wait with DGB. Until he gets the required size hard to know whether he has flaws in his game in composure etc. Hard to see even in 12 months DGB having the size required.

We won't know for 2-3 years if he was worth where we selected him in the draft, but fingers crossed it all works out.

As for HHQ can we bring back CrannyPete ?
 

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I've noticed Gibcus mentioned in this thread a couple of times as a point of comparison for Denver. Having watched him last night and a few other occasions i can safely say that he'd have plenty of our own questioning his ability if he were playing in our backline.

(fwiw i think he'll be a gun too!)
 

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I've noticed Gibcus mentioned in this thread a couple of times as a point of comparison for Denver. Having watched him last night and a few other occasions i can safely say that he'd have plenty of our own questioning his ability if he were playing in our backline.

(fwiw i think he'll be a gun too!)
Agree. Gibcus didn't look great last night. But it's one game and so early in his career.

Like DGB.
 

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From Otten:

Denver Grainger-Barras (10 disposals, 4 marks)

“We gave Denver a role on one of their key forwards and he won that battle throughout the day, he was much better with his intensity and effort which was great. He was most improved this week.
I like that he was given a role on a key forward and had the better of that match up. I hope it continues for his development.

Interesting comment about intensity… Denver seems like a player not lacking in intensity. Maybe it was his confidence which took a dip and impacted on his output.
 

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