Well i'm sure his love for the hawks didn't hurt. From memory in 2022 and itk poster hear (Topiary?) flagged Ginnivan as a potential recruit. So there's every chance we'd been sniffing around for a few years and pounced when Collinwood had enough
Welcome Welcome to Hawthorn : Jack Ginnivan!
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Buddy had this problem for ages. He had a couple of seasons around 11-13 when he just couldn’t stop bumping people and copped a reputation. I can’t remember him being reported either before or after that period.
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I reckon it's closer to the 06-09 seasons.
He got rubbed out for a week for bumping Bock at Football Park in 08. And of course for two when he and Cousins collided in 09.
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Magic how he never got suspended after going to Sydney. Remember that hit against us up at Stadium Australia was it in a final? Or late round? Hit the head and got off. It was pure magic
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He missed a week in 2022 for striking Cotchin.
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I’m loving the bromance that is beginning between him and the Wizard. Will drive defenders mad
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They are going to be despised by opposition fans. Head highs/free kicks/nipping at defenders heels and giving them a mouthful when they make mistakes. I give it till round 4 before it blows up in the media
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Well, let’s hope they concentrate on honing their craft and less about the other rubbish.
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Not much looks worse than players chirping when their side is being flogged.
Look at me celebrations when your team gets beaten are not what I want my club to be associated with.
Remember Clarko had the shot gun put away very quickly.
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Without going over the top, positivity even when losing badly can fool your fight or flight tendency
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My read.
The Pies weren't prepared to trade him in 2022 (when they could have got way more) and instead chose to convince him to stay. When they realised it was futile and knew he was going, they moved quickly to plan B and went after Schultz. It wasn't a last minute thing as it was made out. The story was fabricated and the timing of the trades were stage managed to make it look like they were blind sided to appease the Pies fan base (likely with the help of the Hawks).
I knew Ginni was out when I saw the way they played him during the season. It reminded me of how we played Franko in 2013.
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I don’t buy that his going to the races on grand final eve was a thing too. Sounded like a ver tame evening. If he had gone to gold class instead?
Rumours of him coming to Hawthorn were going around in middle of 2022. And was thrown up in potential Tom Mitchell trade.
But if it's true that he wanted to leave and was convinced to stay but wasn't happy i'd say it turned out pretty well for him to get a flag on the way out the door.
But if it's true that he wanted to leave and was convinced to stay but wasn't happy i'd say it turned out pretty well for him to get a flag on the way out the door.
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Wins a flag, albeit in what was a poor season personally. He then gets his childhood dream move and comes across extremely motivated with a point to prove. Maybe the perfect scenario all-round.
Is a premiership player, no one can take that away from him. Not that many people will remember he didn't play super well that year. Is still super young, joins a club at the very early stages of a rebuild, but a club with a monumental culture of success. Could very conceivably win another flag before he's done. In a very good position.
And showed extremely promising signs in the pre-season.
And showed extremely promising signs in the pre-season.
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when you're ahead, it's easy to talk
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When you’re behind, it’s best to put your head down try to fix it.
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you can absolutely do both at the same time
in some instances getting into the head of an oppo player may actually be beneficial to your chances of turning the game around. showing that fire and demonstrating you're still emotionally invested in the game can help bring up the energy of your teammates too.
i wouldn't make a habit of trash-talking while you're getting flogged...but if your normal playstyle is to play on edge and be that pest then i think it's weak and hypocritical to only behave that way when you're winning. in my mind it's the equivalent of turning off the TV when your team is losing.
id rather see Ginni or Watson or whoever get in the opposition's face when we're losing and show some passion rather than (if) when we're thumping a team by 10 goals.
I honestly think it's absolutely outrageous that he went to the races the night before the GF, not surprised at all that McRae hated that.
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