Welcome to Hawthorn, Jack Saunders - Pick #4 2020 rookie draft

[TD1111]

I am only reporting what I am told.

interesting that one. When he plays high forward and wing he often gets deep into defence for intercept marks and creates run from D50

 

[Roger Rogerson]

interesting that one. When he plays high forward and wing he often gets deep into defence for intercept marks and creates run from D50

Nick Daicos role. Could see that. Extra number trying to get 1-2s and break lines.

Cannot see him as part of the back 6 however. He's not a defender.

 

[Brant]

Nick Daicos role. Could see that. Extra number trying to get 1-2s and break lines.

Cannot see him as part of the back 6 however. He's not a defender.

Didn't we try Seamus in this role at BH (HBF) before he was injured?

 

[Tomohawks]

Didn't we try Seamus in this role at BH (HBF) before he was injured?

Yes we did. And it seemed to work. He was getting better by the week and showing exciting glimpses until his injury.

 

[TD1111]

Didn't we try Seamus in this role at BH (HBF) before he was injured?

Didn't we try Seamus in this role at BH (HBF) before he was injured?

Very true. Agree he’s a high forward / wing at present. Just highlighting the defensive help both ends of the ground

 

[TD1111]

Very true. Agree he’s a high forward / wing at present. Just highlighting the defensive help both ends of the ground

And Seamus just needs time to get his body right!?

 

[Rowie6]

Any updates on whether Jack will be resigned as I thought they might have with Gunners going and T Mitchell potentially being traded?


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[HawthornHawk]

Any updates on whether Jack & Seamus will be resigned as I thought they might have with Gunners going and T Mitchell potentially being traded?


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Assume these decisions will be made after trade week and will be dependent on our list size

 

[Fleabane]

Very much hope so. Jack's recent instagram post shows him and Seamus with Newcombe and Bramble, so no doubt helping to keep them focussed and positive.

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[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Assume these decisions will be made after trade week and will be dependent on our list size

Would keep Saudners for another year

 

[Brant]

Yes, like this esp. as there will be some rookie upgrades. But is there a risk another club pinches Seamus?

I don't think it's 'the done thing'.

Every year, clubs cut players then Rookie-list them. Didn't we do it with Dylan Moore?

 

[eldorado]

The rule has changed regarding that, a few years ago.

Now, you can move them to the rookie list directly without them having to go back into the draft. i.e other clubs didn't have the option to poach Dylan Moore

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Dylan Moore

Age

24

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

. Seamus would be the same.

 

[Coach Killer]

I’m not quite sure where either Jack or Seamus fit and who they’re in front of.

One of those situations where you only get a couple of years to show something and if you’re injured or behind a few you’re off the list.

I feel our first 2 picks this year will be similar types to Seamus and Jack putting further pressure on them to be retained.

 

[eldorado]

I’m not quite sure where either Jack or Seamus fit and who they’re in front of.

One of those situations where you only get a couple of years to show something and if you’re injured or behind a few you’re off the list.

I feel our first 2 picks this year will be similar types to Seamus and Jack putting further pressure on them to be retained.

I'm hopeful on Seamus, if only because of what was said about him at various times pre-draft, and among track-watchers last year, when we starting to have his first injury-free time.

I must admit, I'm doubtful on Jack, who is a mad goer, but whose skills can be a liability at the top level. But who knows?

 

[Scrads]

The rule has changed regarding that, a few years ago.

Now, you can move them to the rookie list directly without them having to go back into the draft. i.e other clubs didn't have the option to poach Dylan Moore. Seamus would be the same.

I think that rule has now reverted back. Initially it was in place due to anticipating cuts to list sizes but it is now back to the delist and pick up in the rookie draft method.

Source: AFL confirms 2022 list sizes, tweaks rule for rookies

But the rule that allowed clubs to move primary-listed players to the rookie list between the first and second list lodgment periods to open up senior spots will not be permitted this off-season.

ALTHOUGH, interestingly below that is:

They will, however, be able to shift players on the senior list to the rookie list in the time between the national and rookie drafts if the player is contracted for 2022

Which is unclear because couldn't you just sign someone for the following year, then move them? Either way I don't think that's an option because otherwise GC would have done it with Greenwood and not lost him and there were several others that had to use the draft e.g. Ben Davis, Lochie O'Brien, Mitch Crowden and several more

 

[TD1111]

To be honest, cant believe they would let saunders go with the assets he has shown without proper opportunity.... others will grab him if the hawks dont!

 

[Coach Killer]

To be honest, cant believe they would let saunders go with the assets he has shown without proper opportunity.... others will grab him if the hawks dont!

There's probably 8+ guys ahead of him at the club. Doubt he gets a spot on anyone else's list.

 

[TD1111]

There's probably 8+ guys ahead of him at the club. Doubt he gets a spot on anyone else's list.

Disagree. There are none in the draft or on the list with his unique blend of speed and endurance. Nor have they shown the rate of improvement in their game that Jack showed in the last 6 weeks of this season.

 

[Coach Killer]

Disagree. There are none in the draft or on the list with his unique blend of speed and endurance. Nor have they shown the rate of improvement in their game that Jack showed in the last 6 weeks of this season.

Wow.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

With Downie, Shiels and Phillips gone and only Amon as a replacement, would hope Saunders gets another year playing on a wing and as a small forward.

 

[eldorado]

Disagree. There are none in the draft or on the list with his unique blend of speed and endurance. Nor have they shown the rate of improvement in their game that Jack showed in the last 6 weeks of this season.

Come back Dominic, all is forgiven!!!

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Come back Dominic, all is forgiven!!!

HAHAHA

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Disagree. There are none in the draft or on the list with his unique blend of speed and endurance. Nor have they shown the rate of improvement in their game that Jack showed in the last 6 weeks of this season.

My god. Wtf?

Give me Bramble ten fold, Amon, CJ, Maginness etc etc.

And in this draft? Like how can you even get it so wrong.

 

[PenAndPaper]

Hasn't been offered a contract for next season

 

[I got the outside word]

Jack has been delisted?